Tech Specialist Builds?

[BoyHowdy000]

By stun ability, do you mean Paralyzing Shock? If so, you're using a turn and Energy to use it, where a Stun chance on the weapon itself lets you attack each turn. While you could take Deadly Shock at level 9 to have it also do (a respectable amount of) damage, if you've already decided on a Drone build, you're probably taking Drone Control instead. Custom Shock Gear also has the Crushing flag, which is interesting (not that relevant at the moment, but potentially useful later), 3 evade and 10 fortification (bonus HP).

Yes, I mean Paralyzing Shock. It's superior to the stun chance of the gauntlets because it's reliable (which is way more important than people may expect), lasts multiple turns, and the damage you lose by wasting a turn is made up for by the superior stats of the Dancing Flashblade and midigated even further if you take the Deadly Shock perk. As we already discussed, Drone Builds are inferior to raw shield builds for Tech Specialists if we're looking at things objectively due to how useless drones are against high level enemies regardless of their upgrades (aside from Siegwulfe, who has the ability to tease targets, but let's be real, if you're doing a tease build, nothing matters because tease is just an instant win button against everything but some very specific enemies), but I do see the appeal in having a drone, so I decided not to mention it.
Also, the fact that it uses energy is basically a non-factor. Aside from charging your weapon, you'll almost never need to use your energy at all unless you're fighting hoards of enemies and want to casually toss some grenades at them to spread out the damage or you're in a melee fight and want to charge your shield.

 

[Theron]

The OP specified wanting to use the new Siegwulfe mode as their accessory, which to me suggests a Drone build is more-or-less locked in.

Interestingly, while Bimbo Siegwulfe's base Tease damage is fixed at 20, the Domme Siegwulf is 12 + Steele's level. Attack Drone and Drone Control don't seem to affect Tease damage, but they do affect Domme Siegwulfe's Kinetic damage (which she does if the enemy's has less HP than Lust, or if they're immune to Lust damage.)

 

[ScarletteKnight]

With Charge Weapon you could use a pure Kinetic weapon and it wouldn't matter, if you wanted to use something like the Saurmorian Hammer, though I think only Mercs can get it without cheating.

There's no reason to use any shield other than the Pirate Prototype because of it's massive shielding, and I believe Tech's innately get a point of shield defense for every so many points of shielding, meaning the higher shields also make up for the Reaper's defense.

Drone's are stronger than you think, and I believe you can take the Shield Boost over Attack Drone and get Drone Control later, unless you want lvl 2 Fenris. I don't think Attack Drone effects their strength.

 

[Theron]

I believe you two. You guys played longer than I have. Probably won't switch just yet though since I have no reason to at the moment. Next update maybe.

If your setup works for you, don't bother switching unless you want to. Just keep the advice in mind if you start to come across fights you can't win.

….There's no reason to use any shield other than the Pirate Prototype because of it's massive shielding, and I believe Tech's innately get a point of shield defense for every so many points of shielding, meaning the higher shields also make up for the Reaper's defense.

Drone's are stronger than you think, and I believe you can take the Shield Boost over Attack Drone and get Drone Control later, unless you want lvl 2 Fenris. I don't think Attack Drone effects their strength.

Advanced Shielding says it grants a defense bonus equal to 25% of your Intelligence (so 12.5 at 50).


Did a quick test:
Level 10, 50 Int (Tam-Wolf 1)
Enemy: Korgonne (F)

No Attack Drone or Drone Control
S: 12, 13
HP: 12, 9, 9, 8, 12, 10, 9, 12, 15, 12, 12 (capped by HP)

Attack Drone
S: 11, 11, 11, 6
HP: 10, 19, 18, 20, 22, 25, 6 (Capped by HP)

Drone Control
S:17, 17, 18, 17, 1
HP:21, 22, 22, 28, 27

Attack Drone & Drone Control
S: 25, 24, 21
HP: 2, 28, 30, 28, 30, 2 (Capped by HP)
Doing some more testing, I've seen as high as 39

Milodan Male
No Attack Drone or Drone Control
HP: 10, 10, 7, 10, 6, 7, 7, 6, 6, 6, 9, 7, 6, 7, 10, 7, 8, 10, 6, 10, 10, 6, 8, 10, 10, 9, 10, 8, 9, Decided to end it.

Attack Drone
HP: 18, 19, 16, 19, 15, 15, 18, 18, 16, 15, 19, 18, 19, 19, 18, 19, 16, 17, 17, 18, 15, 17, 19, 18, 19, 19, 14 (Capped by HP)

Drone Control
HP: 20, 20, 17, 19, 17, 19, 18, 17, 17, 19, 19, 19, 17, 17, 19, 18, 21, 18, 20, 20, 19, 18, 19, 19, 21, 3 (Capped by HP)

Attack Drone & Drone Control
HP: 27, 30, 26, 27, 26, 30, 26, 26, 26, 29, 27, 28, 27, 28, 28, 30, 29 (Capped by HP)

 

[ScarletteKnight]

If your setup works for you, don't bother switching unless you want to. Just keep the advice in mind if you start to come across fights you can't win.


Advanced Shielding says it grants a defense bonus equal to 25% of your Intelligence (so 12.5 at 50).


Did a quick test:
Level 10, 50 Int (Tam-Wolf 1)
Enemy: Korgonne (F)

No Attack Drone or Drone Control
S: 12, 13
HP: 12, 9, 9, 8, 12, 10, 9, 12, 15, 12, 12 (capped by HP)

Attack Drone
S: 11, 11, 11, 6
HP: 10, 19, 18, 20, 22, 25, 6 (Capped by HP)

Drone Control
S:17, 17, 18, 17, 1
HP:21, 22, 22, 28, 27

Attack Drone & Drone Control
S: 25, 24, 21
HP: 2, 28, 30, 28, 30, 2 (Capped by HP)
Doing some more testing, I've seen as high as 39

Milodan Male
No Attack Drone or Drone Control
HP: 10, 10, 7, 10, 6, 7, 7, 6, 6, 6, 9, 7, 6, 7, 10, 7, 8, 10, 6, 10, 10, 6, 8, 10, 10, 9, 10, 8, 9, Decided to end it.

Attack Drone
HP: 18, 19, 16, 19, 15, 15, 18, 18, 16, 15, 19, 18, 19, 19, 18, 19, 16, 17, 17, 18, 15, 17, 19, 18, 19, 19, 14 (Capped by HP)

Drone Control
HP: 20, 20, 17, 19, 17, 19, 18, 17, 17, 19, 19, 19, 17, 17, 19, 18, 21, 18, 20, 20, 19, 18, 19, 19, 21, 3 (Capped by HP)

Attack Drone & Drone Control
HP: 27, 30, 26, 27, 26, 30, 26, 26, 26, 29, 27, 28, 27, 28, 28, 30, 29 (Capped by HP)

Ah, good testing.

 

[Theron]

I've seen the claim that Attack Drone adds 1 damage/level, and the tests seem to bear that out.

 

[Shiranui]

While 10 days late to the party (so sorry for the necro), I thought I could add something to the conversation. By the way all code I use in the post is from the public code so it isn't exactly what is in the exe/swf files.

Awhile ago I decided to test and calculate various things about the Tech Specialist, before putting it in a post. Anyway during that post I compared the survivability of various builds along with a few other things. From the tests I found that to be as survivable as possible you would need Light Jetpack, Proto shield, Modded Yellow Clothing, Zil Champion's Bow and Taivra's Spear, this would give you an effective shield HP of 521.7.

Next while I didn't include it in the post the Jumper Shield was always better than the Reaper Shield, as while it has 15 less shields the +4 evasion will allow more dodges and thus more chance to recharge shields. I should mention that as of now Modded Yellow Clothing is still the best option for tech as it has 60 shields and 12 evasion compared to Augmented Weaves 50 and 6 respectively.

I also included included my personal load-outs with my justification, those being Light Jetpack, Proto shield, Modded Yellow Clothing, Custom Shock Gear and Shock Bow or Hirudo Devourer with 500 and 473.7 EHP respectively. I felt that the loss in damage and EHP was made up for with the fact that that your weapons have either a 1/4 or 1/5 chance to stun on each hit and a 28% chance to dodge, (24% with the Hirudo Devourer) thus letting you regen shields. Because any round where you don't take damage means you get some shield back.

While these loadouts were for shield tech they can work for drone tech you will just lose some survivability.

I should also mention that looking at the code the shelter flag resistances only apply to HP no matter what equipment it is on even shields. Honestly that is really disappointing to me since it just makes merc even stronger to the point of practical invincibility with some armours.

While looking I also found that tease damage from non weapon or item based sources is reduced if the targets level is higher, to be specific the damage is multiplied by 0.7. Along with that I found the code for dom Siegwulfe attacks and as it turns out its rather interesting.

Spoiler: Dom Siegwulfe Attack Code

if(kGAMECLASS.siegwulfeIsDom())
{
   // Bimbo-dom siegwulfe will switch between lust attacks and regular attacks to match which type of damage she thinks you’re trying to deal.
   // More lust than dmg
   if (!target.isLustImmune && (100*(target.HP()+target.shields()) / (target.HPMax()+target.shieldsMax())) >= 100 - target.lustQ())
   {
       if (rand(3) == 0) output("[wulfe.name] pushes her chest out, smirking while she runs her hands over her gigantic, jutting breasts and moans. <i>“Look at what you’re missing out on…”</i>");
       else if (rand(2) == 0) output("[wulfe.name] turns and lowers her front half, spreading her hindlegs while her holocock snaps into existence, tantalizing the enemy with her impressive assets. She wiggles her massive centaur ass from side to side, smirking with confidence.");
       else output("[wulfe.name] turns and spreads her hindlegs, presenting her thick, black pussy and letting moisture drool from her tight little slit. <i>“Give up now and maybe I’ll let you put your tongue in it.”</i>");

       // Scales dmg with PC level.
       dmg = new TypeCollection( { tease: 12 + attacker.level } );
       damageResult = applyDamage(dmg, kGAMECLASS.chars["WULFE"], target, "suppress");
       output("\n");
       output(teaseReactions(damageResult.lustDamage, target));
   }
   //More dmg than lust
   else
   {
       if (rand(3) == 0) output("[wulfe.name] jumps into the fray, slashing with her extendable claws!");
       else if (rand(2) == 0) output("[wulfe.name] spins around and kicks at the opponent with her powerful hindlegs!");
       else output("[wulfe.name] rears up and kicks at the opponent with her clawed forelegs!");

       // Scales dmg with PC level.
       dmg = new TypeCollection( { kinetic: d * 0.9 }, DamageFlag.PENETRATING);
       damageResult = applyDamage(dmg, attacker, target, "suppress");
   }
}

For those that don't get it/didn't look Dom Sigwulfe will switch between lust and normal damage depending on the circumstance. Meaning she is a safe choice if you prefer to use lust attacks while still having normal damage for those few lust immune enemies. Also Dom Sigwulfe has a unique effect she increases both your evasion and sexiness by 8% of your intelligence, compared to 10% intelligence to sexiness for Bimbo and 10% intelligence to evasion for combat.

That said I would still recommend the Light Jetpack or Shield Aug Bracers if you aren't running a drone build since the flat +10 evasion or +50 shields and +1 shield defence is better.

Can I also mention how bullshit it is that the Cum-Cow Treatment path is basically an outright buff for the Tech. Dumb4Cum increase both your current and max intelligence while Autofellatio Queen gives you energy for drinking your own cum, which also satisfies Dumb4Cum's requirement might I add. Honestly it makes me laugh that the arguably worst outcome of the Treatment in universe is the most powerful gameplay wise, while arguably the best outcome Amazon is one of the weekest gameplay wise.

For those that care here is the code for stun chance and Enhanced Dampeners/Shield Resistance.

Spoiler: Stun Chance code

if (damageResult.hpDamage > 0 && baseDamage.hasFlag(DamageFlag.CHANCE_APPLY_STUN) && !target.hasStatusEffect("Stunned") && !target.hasStatusEffect("Stun Immune") && rand(4) == 0)
{
   if(displayBonusTexts)
   {
       if (target is PlayerCharacter) output(" <b>You are stunned!</b>");
       else output(" <b>" + StringUtil.capitalize(target.getCombatName(), false) + " is stunned!</b>");
   }
   CombatAttacks.applyStun(target, 2);
}

Spoiler: Shield Resistance/Enhanced Dampeners Code

public function getShieldResistances():TypeCollection
{
   var r:TypeCollection = baseShieldResistances.makeCopy();
   if (!(shield is EmptySlot)) r.combineResistances(shield.resistances);
   if (hasPerk("Enhanced Dampeners"))
   {
       for (var i:uint = 0; i < DamageType.NUMTYPES; i++)
       {
           var type:DamageType = r.getType(i);
           if (type.resistanceValue < 0) type.resistanceValue /= 2;
       }
   }
   return r;
}

Since I saw someone talking about the Attack Drone and seeming to wonder about its damage I grabbed its code while I was hunting for other stuff.

Spoiler: Drone Attack Code,

public function untypedDroneDamage(calc:String = ""):Number
{
   var dmg:Number = 1 + level;
   var dmgMod:Number = (calc == "min" ? 0 : Math.round((2 + level) / 2));
   if(calc == "") dmg += rand(dmgMod);
   if(calc == "max") dmg += (dmgMod - 1);
   var bonus:Number = 0;
   
   if(hasPerk("Attack Drone") && hasActiveCombatDrone(true, true)) bonus += level;
   if(hasPerk("Drone Control")) bonus += Math.floor(bimboIntelligence()/4);
   
   return dmg + bonus;
}

 

[null_blank]

Can I also mention how bullshit AWESOME it is that the Cum-Cow Treatment path is basically an outright buff for the Tech. Dumb4Cum increase both your current and max intelligence while Autofellatio Queen gives you energy for drinking your own cum, which also satisfies Dumb4Cum's requirement might I add. Honestly it makes me laugh that the arguably worst outcome of the Treatment in universe is the most powerful gameplay wise, while arguably the best outcome Amazon is one of the weekest gameplay wise.

FTFY

 

[Theron]

The big downside to taking Attack Drone is it's +3/level bonus to shields is negated when equipping a Drone accessory (or it will be next patch, it was bugged), leaving you with +2/level, which makes you much squishier, without meaningfully increasing your damage output over the default Drone.

Level 10
* Attack Drone Damage, Electric: 11 - 16
Level 10, Drone Control, 50 Intelligence
* Attack Drone Damage, Electric: 23 - 28


Vs Milodan Male
Default Drone
Attack Drone, Drone Control: 50 Intelligence
21, 24, 19, 19, 23, 24, 23, 24, 19, 23, 22, 20, 21, 22, 19

Siegwulf (0.9 Kinetic, Penetrating. Tam-Wolf 1 has the same multiplier and damage type)
Attack Drone, Drone Control
28, 29, 28, 28, 28, 28, 27, 29, 28, 28, 28, 28, 28, 28, 31, 28, 18

Tam-Wolf 2.0 (0.8 Kinetic, Penetrating, 0.3 Electric)
Attack Drone, Drone Control
39, 36, 35, 33, 33, 39, 36, 39, 38, 39, 37, 35, 31 (capped by HP)

Tam-Wolf 1 (Equivalent to Siegwulf, see above)
Drone Control: 50 Intelligence
HP: 20, 20, 17, 19, 17, 19, 18, 17, 17, 19, 19, 19, 17, 17, 19, 18, 21, 18, 20, 20, 19, 18, 19, 19, 21, 3 (capped by HP)

 

[Shiranui]

FTFY

No no you didn't. The reason you didn't is because I hate the Cum-Cow path and honestly wonder how its was ever added when "Fen doesn't want people taking a TF to gain powerful skills like in CoC". The excuse of its lust based which works for everyone doesn't even apply, since it straight up means that Techs do more damage and can heal more damage. Ow and its also random if you get it + you only have one chance without cheats.

 

[Shiranui]

The big downside to taking Attack Drone is it's +3/level bonus to shields is negated when equipping a Drone accessory (or it will be next patch, it was bugged), leaving you with +2/level, which makes you much squishier, without meaningfully increasing your damage output over the default Drone.

Level 10
* Attack Drone Damage, Electric: 11 - 16
Level 10, Drone Control, 50 Intelligence
* Attack Drone Damage, Electric: 23 - 28


Vs Milodan Male
Default Drone
Attack Drone, Drone Control: 50 Intelligence
21, 24, 19, 19, 23, 24, 23, 24, 19, 23, 22, 20, 21, 22, 19

Siegwulf (0.9 Kinetic, Penetrating. Tam-Wolf 1 has the same multiplier and damage type)
Attack Drone, Drone Control
28, 29, 28, 28, 28, 28, 27, 29, 28, 28, 28, 28, 28, 28, 31, 28, 18

Tam-Wolf 2.0 (0.8 Kinetic, Penetrating, 0.3 Electric)
Attack Drone, Drone Control
39, 36, 35, 33, 33, 39, 36, 39, 38, 39, 37, 35, 31 (capped by HP)

Tam-Wolf 1 (Equivalent to Siegwulf, see above)
Drone Control: 50 Intelligence
HP: 20, 20, 17, 19, 17, 19, 18, 17, 17, 19, 19, 19, 17, 17, 19, 18, 21, 18, 20, 20, 19, 18, 19, 19, 21, 3 (capped by HP)

Yep I would say skip Attack Drone and just get Drone Control if you ever plan to equip a drone.

 

[null_blank]

No no you didn't. The reason you didn't is because I hate the Cum-Cow path and honestly wonder how its was ever added when "Fen doesn't want people taking a TF to gain powerful skills like in CoC". The excuse of its lust based which works for everyone doesn't even apply, since it straight up means that Techs do more damage and can heal more damage. Ow and its also random if you get it + you only have one chance without cheats.

HAHAH take that, nerd!

 

[Shiranui]

HAHAH take that, nerd!
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[Theron]

Yep I would say skip Attack Drone and just get Drone Control if you ever plan to equip a drone.

Which sucks. You're also out +1 base damage/level, but that may not be worth it.

I'm concerned with future scaling. There will be better weapons added, but I think it is less certain that there will be updates to Drones.

Level 20 (via Save Editor) 100 Physique/Intelligence and Attack Drone and Drone Control vs Milodan Males. (High enough HP to matter.)
Saurmorian Hammer (chosen as a high-damage, purely physical weapon, i.e. no damage from Perks).
68-90 (can also crit)

Siegwulf (+40 Shields, +10 Evasion)
58-65 (38-45 if no Attack Drone)

Default (+100 Shields)
* Attack Drone Damage, Electric: 46 - 56
Actual observed damage: 42-52 (Can't have if no Attack Drone)

Tam-Wolf 2.0 (+40 Shields)
71-80 (Can't have if no Attack Drone)

 

[Shiranui]

Which sucks. You're also out +1 base damage/level, but that may not be worth it.

I'm concerned with future scaling. There will be better weapons added, but I think it is less certain that there will be updates to Drones.

Level 20 (via Save Editor) 100 Physique/Intelligence and Attack Drone and Drone Control vs Milodan Males. (High enough HP to matter.)
Saurmorian Hammer (chosen as a high-damage, purely physical weapon, i.e. no damage from Perks).
68-90 (can also crit)

Siegwulf (+40 Shields, +10 Evasion)
58-65 (38-45 if no Attack Drone)

Default (+100 Shields)
* Attack Drone Damage, Electric: 46 - 56
Actual observed damage: 42-52 (Can't have if no Attack Drone)

Tam-Wolf 2.0 (+40 Shields)
71-80 (Can't have if no Attack Drone)

Um pretty sure you can get Tam-Wolf 2.0 without attack drone perk. If I remember correctly you just approaching the kennel in the courtyard during the Eye of the Beholder mission. As long as you have Tam-Wolf 1.0 or Damaged Tam-Wolf Equipped or in your inventory he should upgrade.

 

[null_blank]

You don't get Tamwolf 2.0 if you don't have the attack drone perk as your Steele does not repair it without that perk. If you take the damaged Tamwolf to the repair bay all you get is Tamwolf 1.0

 

[Shiranui]

You don't get Tamwolf 2.0 if you don't have the attack drone perk as your Steele does not repair it without that perk. If you take the damaged Tamwolf to the repair bay all you get is Tamwolf 1.0

Ok looking at the code it turns out you are correct, it makes sense I guess in a roundabout way. That said I am not surprised that I was wrong it has been ages since I have done that quest even longer since I have done it without cheating.

By the way did you test Dom Siegwulfe since I think she has a different damage formula.

 

[Theron]

Pretty sure it's still 0.9x. If it is different, I didn't see it in the code. I know that Tease for Bimbo-Domme is 12+level, instead of a flat 20.

 

[Shiranui]

Pretty sure it's still 0.9x. If it is different, I didn't see it in the code. I know that Tease for Bimbo-Domme is 12+level, instead of a flat 20.

Yep it's 0.9 just looked at my original comment which I had put the code in.

 

[Theron]

Looking at it again, while the multiplier is the same, the number being multiplied is different. For Tam-Wolf the number is untypedDroneDamage. For Tam-Wolf 2.0 the number is untypedDroneDamage + 1, for Siegwulf, the number is untypedDroneDamage + 1 + rand(2), so 1-3 extra base damage before the multiplier.

I'm pretty sure untypedDroneDamage is 1 + level + Rand(2 + level) /2).

I've got a writeup of all the Tech Specialist perks (including damage formulas), if anyone is interested in seeing and critiquing it.