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Xhib

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Hey,

New person here. Been playing and enjoying for a TiTS for a while. I have lots of ideas, and I think I want to write some of them. I think I want that. 70-80% sure. Haven't written much in a while, so I'm a bit rusty. Also, nervous.

I'm starting small. Shower/grower flavour mods. Flaccid size alteration if you wanna dry and technical. Ew, dry porn.

There's so many bulgy portraits in-game! Yet Steele has no easy way of getting in the action outside of growing a 2-3 foot cock. EDIT: Or being a cumcow. Meanwhile a 6 inch erection is 1.5 inches soft on a new Steele. Not necessarily a problem, unless you have a size fetish. Or you over-empathise with your character and can't send her into the gym, because she's shy and you don't want to put her through that. So you have to spend her hard earned credits on dick mods so she can max her stats with confidence. But then, you're all: "Sorry Paige, no eyeballs for you today." And then you feel bad.

A widespread problem, I'm sure.

There's a flaccid ratio stat in the editor, but EDIT: the only way to affect (outside the editor) is to become a Cumcow, which makes you a shower and also irreversibly turns your character into a jizz spout. Basically I want to write two mods, one to increase soft size, the other to shrink it. Doesn't effect your erect length.


UPDATE: I'm writing it. I'll probably put up what I've got so far sometime this week. Word or warning: it'll still be very much a work-in-progress.

I'm also writing bulge blurbs in the appearance screen apparently. Otherwise, the changes these mods make are basically invisible (sans Codex). Starting small, he said. That didn't last long.
 
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We usually follow the philosophy of "JUST DO IT!" If it sucks, it sucks. But at least you DID something. More than can be said for many people who post in the idea forum. If you're unsure but still really want to then have a gander at other similar projects and then decide if you can/will do something similar.
 

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The fully-flaccid size of a penis is determined by the "flaccidMultiplier" variable in the character's cock object. At the moment, the player character has a default flaccidMultiplier of 0.25, which means it is 25% of the erect size when soft. The ratio cannot exceed 1.0 (or 100% of the erect size). Written content usually describes and views the penis length at its fully erect length (as not many authors, if at all, acknowledge the flaccid size). So, at least for now, it is purely a cosmetic stat.

As far as I know, only the cum-cow variant of The Treatment changes the player character's flaccidMultiplier to 0.75 (75% of erect length when flaccid) if the ratio is smaller, so the character becomes more of a shower than a grower.

For NPCs, a few characters have their own flaccidMultiplier variables set, even if their scenes don't explicitly state them, if looking at the ratios at all. The characters include: Belle (0.5), Kally (12/13), Kaska (0.75), Dr. Lassau (0.2), Lerris (0.2), Saendra (0.33), Tam-Tam's Tamwolf at the bad-end (0.2), Vahn (0.5), and Zephyr (0.6 normal, 0.75 post-Throbb). All other character penises will start with the default ratio.
 
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Thanks for the detailed explanation! I was thinking 0.1 to 0.9 as the range the two mods can alter you to, but the latter might be too high. I'm not sure how the mod will interact with the Mini & Hung perks yet. Honestly the mechanics are pretty much the least of my worries.

Anyway, I'm writing it. Been looking at implemented TFs formatting, reading the guides and generally stalling. I've been thinking about the manufacturer and the why behind their product. I don't want to clutter the tool tip with extraneous detail, but just talking about what it does is boring. I've got a few mostly minor side effects in mind. Negligible increases/decreases in libido or exhibitionism, both if your lucky/unlucky. I'm not generally not that bothered about explaining how the mod works, but I was thinking about including a panicked "how do I have enough blood for this?" for a high INT Steele (relative to level). Turns out artificial blood is a theoretical thing.

You might get an email after a while with a complimentary discount to the corresponding drug if you're above or below certain soft sizes. Privacy be damned.
 

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Okay, but before you do anything, consider a couple of things:
- When is Steele's flaccidity going to come up? (Hehe)
- Most writers will not edit scenes to mention it. Likewise, coders might not want to trawl through that work.
- What about sheathed dicks? Because they're hidden (the really growing showers), how can a flaccid measurement deal with them?
- The more...bodily fluids, like blood tend to be ignored. If you really have to ask about how a Steele can maintain a dick that's 4 foot long and 8 inches in diameter and not faint, the answer is...Space Magic. The whole of TiTS runs on a modified version of the MST3k mantra - Just relax, its only a porn game.

I'm not saying ditch the plan, but rather think about what you're looking to do and then ask yourself how relevant will it end up being, There are no bad ideas, just badly thought out and poorly executed.
 

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Okay, but before you do anything, consider a couple of things:
- When is Steele's flaccidity going to come up? (Hehe)
- Most writers will not edit scenes to mention it. Likewise, coders might not want to trawl through that work.
- What about sheathed dicks? Because they're hidden (the really growing showers), how can a flaccid measurement deal with them?
- The more...bodily fluids, like blood tend to be ignored. If you really have to ask about how a Steele can maintain a dick that's 4 foot long and 8 inches in diameter and not faint, the answer is...Space Magic. The whole of TiTS runs on a modified version of the MST3k mantra - Just relax, its only a porn game.

I'm not saying ditch the plan, but rather think about what you're looking to do and then ask yourself how relevant will it end up being, There are no bad ideas, just badly thought out and poorly executed.

If you don't want to get your hopes up, don't read the spoilers. I understand. This is a little bit of what I have in mind:

1. A bulge while clothed would take a lot of coding to work properly or else it'd just be stupid. "How is my cock showing through plate mail?" So I basically wrote that off. But there's two swimming pools and a beach in the game where it's probably safe to assume your showing something. Simply put, {IfFlaccidCockSize>=4} would return "modest bulge" in a throwaway line about your swimsuit, while {IfFlaccidCockSize>=6} would input "big bulge" instead.
2. Spontaneously propositioned and stripped PCs could start soft.
3. Low libido PC's could take more warming up by a partner.
4. High willpower PCs thinking about cold showers could keep their cool until sex is imminent. Any of the three above could support vivid descriptions of a slowly growing cock complete with ever more emphatic partner reactions.
5. Low lust Shower scenes.
6. It'd work pretty well in aftersex scenes of all descriptions. e.g. Ravenous partner trying to revive an exhausted Steele. Pleased partner gently caressing resting Steele. So on.

I'm not expecting anyone to rewrite anything. This mod on its own is basically a cosmetic option without a line in the appearance tab. I wasn't planning on adding that, but I can give it a go if I know what needs to be written. Seriously, when was the last time a character talked about your ears? Same thing, just hidden behind more tabs. But it can set up all of the above, some of which is what I'd work on next.

As for intensive coding, everything is already there as far as I can tell. It's just not used. The PC is already returning numbers for "length, flaccid," "length, current" and "length, erect" in the Codex. You can change the Flaccid Multiplier in the editor right now.

I'd not really thought about sheaths. But sheaths aren't handled any differently than any other soft cock by the current system. I checked.

I wasn't seriously consider adding a description of what your blood is doing during an erection. Just Steele reading the packaging, throwing in a few fancy terms and going: "huh, so that's how that works. Clever." I'm a pedant, not a urologist.
 

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If I remember correctly there's an item flag for tight clothes, those clothes could get the bulge blurbs too. Or a blurb that triggers when tight clothing is worn and current length goes over a certain threshold, like the bras that become transparent if Steele is lactating.
 
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I would like to point out that that's not how volume work, still a 16' x 5" dick would hold 3.1L of blood, which is quite impressive. BTW If you lose about 1.5L you're dead. You could totally rock a 6' cock and be alive though. Yeah as stupid as it sounds you could totally survive with an erect 6 feet dick. Now there's the matter of generating enough blood pressure to pump and keep the blood in without causing an aneurysm.
 
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I would like to point out that that's not how volume work, still a 16' x 5" dick would hold 1.3L of blood, which is quite impressive and isn't far from the estimate. If you lose about 1.5L you're dead. But yeah as stupid as it sounds you could totally survive with an erect 16 feet dick. Now there's the matter of generating enough blood pressure to pump and keep the blood in without causing an aneurysm.
Cybernetic miniature heart implant near the penis? Without that a person with a normal heart will probably stay more or less flaccid forever. Perhaps those people with high blood pressures could get it a little harder without mechanical help.
 

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Cybernetic miniature heart implant near the penis? Without that a person with a normal heart will probably stay more or less flaccid forever. Perhaps those people with high blood pressures could get it a little harder without mechanical help.

I had to edit the message because it was 3.1L not 1.3L, my mistake, mixed the order.
 

Xhib

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If I remember correctly there's an item flag for tight clothes, those clothes could get the bulge blurbs too. Or a blurb that triggers when tight clothing is worn and current length goes over a certain threshold, like the bras that become transparent if Steele is lactating.

Tight Clothing flags is interesting, might be able to work with that. Good to know, thanks. Bulges showing in underwear seems to be safe assumption, which means crotch-exposing clothes/armour with underwear would show. That stuff's simple enough. Other stuff, not so much. Trying to work out what kind of bulge a two foot soft cock with beachball-sized testicles is supposed to make inside a thong... is proving difficult.

I think the easiest way to implement bulges is similar to how hips and asses are handed. Once you go over a certain size, the descriptions kind of stop. However unlike those two, which can be directly increased via things like Junk in the Trunk and Thicc&Shake, bulge rating would be a combination of other stats. You could only indirectly affect it through mods that affect your cock and balls. Total penile Volume + total testicular volume = bulge rating. Increasing that volume increases your bulge rating if you go over certain thresholds. Calculating those thresholds? Ugh...

This also means the last blurb is the most important, since it ideally should pay lip service to every oversized genital configuration imaginable. Realistically, that's not remotely possible. The best I can currently think of is a hand-wave. "Your [underwear] is stretched to breaking point around your immense package, covering the absolute bare minimum required for legal decency while leaving almost nothing to the imagination." ...or something to that effect. You can still walk around on Tavros, but... ah, just don't think about this too much. Even this relies on the item your wearing being stretchy. If you're wearing cotton boxers...

The actual TF is going okay, though slowly. I'm still sort of figuring out what I need to write if you couldn't tell. A line in the appearance tab would give the mods a meaningful effect in game, besides a number in the Codex, so I'll give it a go.
 

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I can't speak for others, but if you're wearing clothes you've already got a bulge. I just check for bigger dicks (at 10-12inches) when determining the difference between {stretching/straining/seam-destroying} etc.
 

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I can't speak for others, but if you're wearing clothes you've already got a bulge. I just check for bigger dicks (at 10-12inches) when determining the difference between {stretching/straining/seam-destroying} etc.

Cool. Love the Bored Jumpers and the Rat Raiders. (I pass on ear-sex, but to each their own.)

Bulges only when erect, in sex scenes (by inclined authors); I mean those are great, don't get me wrong. That's not quite what I'm aiming for, though.

I'm thinking bulges as a trigger for a sex scene or two. Still totally optional and it'll only proc if your Steele is obviously advertising their endowment{s}.

It's probably easiest to explain with an example (that I may want to write):
I'm thinking a completely soft Steele on Tavros who is still visibly hung as all hell drawing longing gazes left, right and centre while dressed. There are types of exhibitionism which are about more than just public nudity. That's my kink. Well, one of them.

Now, imagine a particular enraptured passerby with a mischievous Steele. After a little teasing, Steele gets dragged off to the Red Light District so our transfixed acquaintance can get a better look without lawbreaking. Only for them to find out: that bulge showing? It can still grow plenty. Cue gasps, ecstatic disbelief and an overstimulated viewer in desperate need of release.

I could probably write that scene right now, but you'd have to have cock at least two feet long or be a cumcow for it to trigger and make sense. Hence the two mods. The scene could vary based on how much you show and how much you grow.
 
I'd totally rock bulge worship scenes as a warm-up before the body armor and hardlight panties drop and the bra deactivates. ^.^

If nothing else, if they won't suck it or fuck it, rub it and still love it! We'll then negotiate the penetration, but I'm a master of outer-course too... Don't always have to try to tuck it in!