Skill trees/Perks
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Personally I hope it's more on the line of COC rather than tits.
I prefer to choose from a lot of abilities (with requirements) rather than a linear level up with two options. Something that could be quite funny is have some changes or special interactions if you have traits like "masochist" or "sadist" in some scenes, always wanted that in the original coc.
I prefer to choose from a lot of abilities (with requirements) rather than a linear level up with two options. Something that could be quite funny is have some changes or special interactions if you have traits like "masochist" or "sadist" in some scenes, always wanted that in the original coc.
Savin already explained this in another thread.
As per the "Character stuff" thread:
Savin quote:
Insofar as the player character goes, there will only ever be the 5 base classes.
However, you're free to mix and match Talents from any class, and to take on Talents from items/story events/etc. on top of those. The only real "limit" is that you can only have 5 Talents equipped at a time (one At-Will, two Recharge, one 1/Encounter, and one 1/Day).
Your current class gives you passive Perks, and a free Talent when you level up. If you want cross-class Talents you just have to shell out some cash for them.
You only have a Character level, not class levels.
You have all the Perks for whatever class you're currently in, based on your character level. When you change classes, the only thing you lose are your current Perks (to be replaced with the new class's perks so long as you're in that class).
You only get free Talents (your active abilities) for whatever class you're actually in when you level up. But you keep your Talents when you switch classes, so if you start as a Warrior and become a White Mage, you can keep beatsticking people until you learn some White Mage talents. You can learn Talents from any class at any time by paying some money to a trainer.
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As per the "Character stuff" thread:
Savin quote:
Insofar as the player character goes, there will only ever be the 5 base classes.
However, you're free to mix and match Talents from any class, and to take on Talents from items/story events/etc. on top of those. The only real "limit" is that you can only have 5 Talents equipped at a time (one At-Will, two Recharge, one 1/Encounter, and one 1/Day).
Your current class gives you passive Perks, and a free Talent when you level up. If you want cross-class Talents you just have to shell out some cash for them.
You only have a Character level, not class levels.
You have all the Perks for whatever class you're currently in, based on your character level. When you change classes, the only thing you lose are your current Perks (to be replaced with the new class's perks so long as you're in that class).
You only get free Talents (your active abilities) for whatever class you're actually in when you level up. But you keep your Talents when you switch classes, so if you start as a Warrior and become a White Mage, you can keep beatsticking people until you learn some White Mage talents. You can learn Talents from any class at any time by paying some money to a trainer.
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So there's a possibility of story-driven prestige classes?
Say, a paladin guild that will only accept you if you have enough of x class talents and y class talents and through training/questing for them you will gain additional talents that are unique to the guild/prestige class? Kinda' like classes in the Gothic series worked.
That would be theoretically possible.
"Prestige class" would really be "group of themed talents" but yeah. I'm doing that with blue mages already.
BLUE MAGE FUCK YEAH
Seriously, that's one of my favorite RPG mechanics. I will be all over that. Thanks, Savin.
There aren't enough likes to give you here.
While I do prefer being a Red Mage, Blue Mages are badass, so this is gonna be fuuuuuun.
Wtf is a blue mage?BLUE MAGE FUCK YEAH
Seriously, that's one of my favorite RPG mechanics. I will be all over that. Thanks, Savin.
Look it up in the Final Fantasy Universe
To be even more specific if you're familiar with D&D it might ring a bell, especially if you've read the Dragonlance book series.
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Look it up in the Final Fantasy Universe
To be even more specific if you're familiar with D&D it might ring a bell, especially if you've read the Dragonlance book series.
Am familiar with DnD, no idea what a blue mage is.
I'm more used to the FF-verse of things, so close enough hopefullyIn the FF universe that is
Don't know about Dragonlance, but in FF games, yes, a blue mage learns spells by getting hit with them. This usually means they end up with a bunch of weird stuff. Sometimes it's useless, sometimes it's game-breaking. But it's always fun to see what happens. I never expected to see this in CoC2 and now I'm excited.
I never expected to see this in CoC2 and now I'm excited.
I can't place it really, I know it mainly from memory. I think I might have to re-read the Lance War books again in order to re-familiarize myself.
I'm pretty sure there's a difference between sucking up your opponent and getting hit by them... hmm...
What if Bimbo's with that ability that try to learn it end up sucking off the opponent for the round, causing both of you to not act that round and other things? Hmm...
No.
Kirby is an infant eldritch monster that cannot be stopped that will consume anything and everything and gains the strengths of his victims.
A blue mage is some dipshit with a pointy hat who can take a learn how to throw a punch exactly one they just took assuming they don't die from the punch.
Blue mage is megaman from the 90s cartoon, except he needs to get smacked before proclaiming "now I've got your power".
Quina in FF9 is a fucking savage and straight up eats mobs to learn blue magic though. Also, Kimarhi in 10 kinda does the same thing with lancet.
A mage that has white mage and black mage powers but not strong versions of either.
To add to SoAndSo, they're basically the jack of all trades of mages. Strong and versatile early game, but lack of specialization means they drop off hard later on. Not so much in single-player games with only one usable character, since utility is very useful. But in party play (like CoC2), it's generally better to pick focused members. The red mage does everything okay, but is great at nothing. Unless OP doublecast is a thing...
You didn't even use doublecast on red mage. Blood price summoner doublecast Viera were THE thing.
Unless they're referencing FFXIV Red Mage. Lots of front loaded damage and ridiculous support in rather powerful healing for a dps class and that double cast let you instant cast rez's after any non instant spell. Pretty great for progression groups.