R.I.P Frostwyrmlings
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Maybe some side coders will be able to make a some sort of "restoration plug-in"? Like, "un-Patreon-censored" version.
An older version of the game also works, that does sound like a good idea for an un-official mod though.
Yeah, but you could just use a save for the new versions and have an old one.
Wyrmlings are not gonna come back as any sort of sexual content
their current game state is where they will stay
their current game state is where they will stay
And it got Kiro and Kally being blood sisters?? Well, looks like I'm keeping current public version as is.
I understand why it had to happen, but it still sucks.
I understand why it had to happen, but it still sucks.
I suppose this also completely does away with the possibility of not-so-innocent fun with Steele's mom. If she's ever even written.
Although the eventual incest with Sonya and Beatrice should still be alright. Hopefully. Given that they aren't blood-kin.
Although the eventual incest with Sonya and Beatrice should still be alright. Hopefully. Given that they aren't blood-kin.
It will probably be fine, I don't know if there was ever any plan for mom steele though.
"We have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of content. We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex."
There are huge portions of the game that are technically and obviously in violation of patreons rules. Removing only incest is super arbitrary and is mega disappointing both that its gone and that fen would no balls so hard.
There are huge portions of the game that are technically and obviously in violation of patreons rules. Removing only incest is super arbitrary and is mega disappointing both that its gone and that fen would no balls so hard.
It's pretty understandable actually. Think about it this way: Would you rather risk leaving it in, then if Patreon came in with the banhammer, you lose essentially ALL of your funding in one fell swoop, forcing you and your staff out of a job and killing a game's progress just about entirely in less than a second?
In my opinion, that's a risk WELL not worth taking. I know it sucks really hard, but gotta do what you have to to keep afloat as the small man in this.
The entire game is in violation of patreons rules though. Removing 1 particular fetish when the rules are broken regardless doesn't really make sense. Unless they are willing to look the other way for certain stuff on big pages while being in contact with the creator telling them what to remove, which is the only way this makes sense.
Also theres other options besides patreon. Obviously it would take a long time to grow back to what it was at but atleast he wouldn't have to kiss ass some garbage company for the rest of his online presence.
i would prefer to see the game find an alternate platform, as it seems as though patreon is under increased scrutiny these days, which means they're going to eventually crack down even further possible banishing smut from the platform entirely. honestly though it's why i'm enthused about the steam VN as it gives me hope that Coc2 and Tits will eventually hit the platform when the games are in their final state
Considering that (as been mentioned above) a BIG chunk of this game is a non-consensual sex, I guess it's just a matter of time before Patreon will openly pull the trigger on such games. So I'd say it'd be a better idea to look for another crowdfunding platform, instead of making drastic changes in your game that will upset many players. Even with incest content choped off, the danger of closure is still there.
Yeah, it seems patreon is getting less and less viable for questionable content every day.
yeah at best the worst parts are dubious consent, neverminding all the mindbreak bad ends that your steele can hit, so i would seriously start looking for a life boat, because if they're cracking down on incest dub-con will be next, and that's too much of this game that would need to be rewritten
A good example how you could release all content, still being there right in the game files is using the same method that was used by a free furry Dating VN called Amorous when it was released. Steam doesn’t allow any NSFW content in the VN games and developers had to change the game to comply with SFW standards and >Locked< all genital parts from character creator and also censored all animated sex scenes. However Devs anonymously tipped the community that adding a blank .txt file made on notepad called ShowMeSomeBooty into games main folder and then removing the .txt extension making it a simply blank File, that will unlock all of the NSFW content and previous dialogue lines in game.
I couldn't care less about the Frostwyrmlings, but my sister threesomes are ruined and I will cry...
A lot of this naysaying is just scaremongering. TiTS is one of Patreon's most lucrative projects, and if Patreon hasn't done anything yet, it likely won't do anything at all. Removing the incest was a preventative measure; Patreon did not email Fen and demand he do anything, Fen just got cold feet.
I distinctly remember Fen telling us he asked Patreon what the rules were in regards to fucking a sapient dragon, and whether that fell under any of their blacklists, such as dubcon or bestiality, and they gave him the go-ahead.
I distinctly remember Fen telling us he asked Patreon what the rules were in regards to fucking a sapient dragon, and whether that fell under any of their blacklists, such as dubcon or bestiality, and they gave him the go-ahead.
I'll reiterate what I said on the blog: Those of you baying for us to swap to another third party aren't thinking this through. Patreon aren't the ones enforcing this, it's the financial services themselves as a result of governmental pressure. Wherever you go credit card companies are going to want to know what you're spending that money on, and if it's hardcore pornography, they're going to want to pull the plug.
Also yeah, as much as it's fashionable to spit at Patreon for this, they have very obviously taken a Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy where TiTS is concerned. It's one of the most well-paid projects going, they assuredly already know it's technically in violation of their rules. So don't hate them. Hate governments intent on exterminating alternative sexual expression.
Also yeah, as much as it's fashionable to spit at Patreon for this, they have very obviously taken a Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy where TiTS is concerned. It's one of the most well-paid projects going, they assuredly already know it's technically in violation of their rules. So don't hate them. Hate governments intent on exterminating alternative sexual expression.
I understand that, but I'm not going to pledge anymore to TiTs. I'm still going to enjoy the game and this community but I don't want pay for something that might be cut in a month, Please don't bring up the "you're only hurting fenoxo" thing, losing a few supporters isn't going to do anything and that isn't my intention.
Well, this was kinda a crap day, huh?
First Stan Lee, then the incest in TiTs. (Obviously Mr Lee is a bigger loss overall.)
First Stan Lee, then the incest in TiTs. (Obviously Mr Lee is a bigger loss overall.)
The incest was always going to be the first content on the chopping block, that much was clear months ago when Patreon began clamping down on other projects. The fact that its happening now isn't going to change a thing. He's running a business, he has employees. Patreon is probably the largest source of income for Fenco and to lose that, even for a short time, would be disastrous. Cutting the incest content wasn't malicious, it was pragmatic, to cut something minor instead of losing everything.
Fen going to another group funding site won't solve the problem, it will only delay it until that site is forced to start looking at the content its users are putting out. And its back to square one all over again.
Fen going to another group funding site won't solve the problem, it will only delay it until that site is forced to start looking at the content its users are putting out. And its back to square one all over again.
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This was a long ways coming. Welcome to porn in the patreon age.
It doesn't matter that Fen preemptively made the changes himself, what matters is that the current situation is so unstable that he felt compelled to do this to protect the livelihoods of Fen & Co. Don't blame Fen, the situation itself is disgusting. Some of you are kinda young and probably don't remember when Paypal was the only online pay processor and they had a strict "no porn" policy. If they caught you using your paypal for porn either as a purveyor or patron, that was it, you're banned for life. And good luck taking payments especially when Paypal was the only online processor for YEARS.
It ALWAYS falls down to this chain of command: content creator - platform - payment processor/bank - government regulations (and you can tell how serious this is from my near-random use of CAPs)
Though it had a stupid fucking name, Hateron would also eventually fold and crumble to pressure from payment processors as well. There is no alternate platform because there is no alternate to the banks and government control and frankly, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on.
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GOVERNMENT GET OUT OF MY PORN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ALSO FUCK PAYPAL
This was a long ways coming. Welcome to porn in the patreon age.
It doesn't matter that Fen preemptively made the changes himself, what matters is that the current situation is so unstable that he felt compelled to do this to protect the livelihoods of Fen & Co. Don't blame Fen, the situation itself is disgusting. Some of you are kinda young and probably don't remember when Paypal was the only online pay processor and they had a strict "no porn" policy. If they caught you using your paypal for porn either as a purveyor or patron, that was it, you're banned for life. And good luck taking payments especially when Paypal was the only online processor for YEARS.
It ALWAYS falls down to this chain of command: content creator - platform - payment processor/bank - government regulations (and you can tell how serious this is from my near-random use of CAPs)
Though it had a stupid fucking name, Hateron would also eventually fold and crumble to pressure from payment processors as well. There is no alternate platform because there is no alternate to the banks and government control and frankly, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on.
[LOGIC ENDS HERE]
GOVERNMENT GET OUT OF MY PORN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ALSO FUCK PAYPAL
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