PLAN B

[Solitary Traveler]

Agni makes a really hot comment during one scene about wanting her insides to be shaped like the champ's oversized cock before they're through. Frankly, I like the idea of fucking her so much that you stretch her out enough to fit completely inside her. It is a new body after all.

 

[Lone Wolf115]

I'm also curious about this, since almost every direct description of Harpy vaginas describes them as "cavernous" and capable to taking almost anything, so it's mildly hilarious that Agni has less capacity than a Kobold.

Well she doesn't get out much clearly.

 

[Burnerbro]

Well she doesn't get out much clearly.

She needs to also somehow not get eggy regularly through the natural birb cycle.

 

[mikethor007]

Weirdly enough the stats say she has no hips at all. Hip rating 0.

 

[Evil]

hmm, Then I'd say it would be better if wasn't mentioned in any scene by the champion, no? This way any player still could RP in another way if they want. Having your champion says it to someone is like the writer taking the lead of what you, the player must be, instead of what you could be. I'm asking it because from all scenes I've got so far, those are the only ones that have my champion saying it to someone, and it felt kinda, weird. Maybe is just me.

Going to let you in on a little secret.
The Champion isn't your character. The Champion was, is and always be the mouthpiece for the writers. They have always been a setpiece in the story that is being told.
Oh sure, the Champion you play might start Human or Orc or an Elf, you might pick the name and the class and decide the stats, but at the end of the day, that's all stuff you stick on a mannequin, but the mannequin isn't yours.

 

[Avallonkao]

Going to let you in on a little secret.
The Champion isn't your character. The Champion was, is and always be the mouthpiece for the writers. They have always been a setpiece in the story that is being told.
Oh sure, the Champion you play might start Human or Orc or an Elf, you might pick the name and the class and decide the stats, but at the end of the day, that's all stuff you stick on a mannequin, but the mannequin isn't yours.

I'm sorry but that makes no sense, the idea of a game, especially one with choices is that the Player character (in this case the champion) is meant to be a representation of the player if they want to feel it this way.

I know lots of ppl who love to play games to RP, to make choices, to enjoy and explore new things in ways they wouldn't be able or things they wouldn't ever do IRL. So, if that's taken away in a game, what's the point?

 

[SmithEK]

Just pretend certain things don't happen.. rapid click scenes that you don't like. When my champion thinks some dude is hot, I put it down to delirium from being constantly assed kicked by demons.. to many bumps to the head.

 

[Gothamson]

I'm sorry but that makes no sense, the idea of a game, especially one with choices is that the Player character (in this case the champion) is meant to be a representation of the player if they want to feel it this way.

Think of it like Shephard from Mass Effect. You can change his face, class, guns, even his demeanor but in the end he's still commander Shephard. He acts as the writer dictates he would act and so does the champion. There will ve times when there are multiple ways someone could react to something and other times when It's out of your hands.

 

[WolframL]

I'm sorry but that makes no sense

And yet, it is exactly what Savin has said. He even used the Mass Effect analogy too.

As has been pointed out by the devs repeatedly, the Champ is canonically pansexual and they'll find every potentially sexable character attractive regardless of how you personally want to RP them. It is a convenience for the writers that they can assume certain things about the Champ and that's one of them. Having the words come out of the Champ's mouth are a bit more direct than, say, Garth assuming the Champ would be interested in a threesome with Azzy and Lia after setting them up, but it's still in line with how the game treats the subject and it's one of those basic assumptions that you just have to live with and mentally roleplay around if it bothers you.

 

[wery12345]

Its a lot easier writing the champ pansexual, also just because your like lesbian doesnt mean you couldnt acknowledge if someone of the opposite sex is attractive.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

As has been pointed out by the devs repeatedly, the Champ is canonically pansexual and they'll find every potentially sexable character attractive regardless of how you personally want to RP them. It is a convenience for the writers that they can assume certain things about the Champ and that's one of them. Having the words come out of the Champ's mouth are a bit more direct than, say, Garth assuming the Champ would be interested in a threesome with Azzy and Lia after setting them up, but it's still in line with how the game treats the subject and it's one of those basic assumptions that you just have to live with and mentally roleplay around if it bothers you.

Having the champ be assumed pan for writing makes sense for ease of writing, but the part that seems to cause debate is whenever something gets explicitly stated instead of implied or held off until a specific scene is chosen. It's the difference between being given a sexual description that makes no assumptions, and getting a description that says "this is the hottest thing ever and you love it". For example it's the difference between a basic description of Brint meant to tantalize people already into it but with no comments on or from the champion, and a version that ends off with declaring that the player's panties now rival Niagara Falls with no input. And it raises the the question of why bother with any customization or choices if at the end it's going to be reinforced that those don't matter.

also just because your like lesbian doesnt mean you couldnt acknowledge if someone of the opposite sex is attractive.

I obviously can't speak for everyone (Yet. But soon. Yes very soon.), but I've never found anyone of the opposite sex attractive or appealing and have never acknowledged it when brought up by someone.

TL;DR: This debate only occurs when something gets stated in-game with no input and will continue until the end of time. Basically, Winter's being contrarian again and should be slapped if it weren't for the fact that she'd like it and make it weird.

Source: Am Winter, unfortunately.

 

[PuppyPrincess]

Basically, Winter's being contrarian again and should be slapped if it weren't for the fact that she'd like it and make it weird.

Ooh that is a mooooood!

On the topic of the fire birb, she's pretty cool & I always like seeing how companions view the other companions.

 

[SmithEK]

I wonder if Agni will get threesomes, she seems like the type that would enjoy it.. not including hellhound lady.

 

[mikethor007]

So, will Berwyn still change between dommy and subby due to choices/actions?

 

[B]

On BerryQuest2 this week! Updated with 2,800 words - this is all just preamble to the actual sex and will parse down to, like, 400 words-ish.

Since it's all parser soup, it's hard to post snippets, so have two that I picked out as best I could.

[berwyn.andMatiha|For a short time, things get awkwardly silent between the three of you. [berwyn.name] is the type to enjoy the comfortable silence of the people [berwyn.heShe] trusts, and Matiha is more of the studious type that enjoys the company of her own thoughts as much as she enjoys yours and [berwyn.name]’s, but all the same… the silence tends to creep when you let it.

You know exactly what you want from them both, though. And judging from the way [berwyn.name]’s eyes keep flitting between yours and Matiha’s, [berwyn.heShe] probably wants it, too.

[pc.dcb|So, you break the silence. Fuck beating around the bush: you ask them both if they want to fuck.|You awkwardly clear your throat before impishly suggesting that the three of you retire elsewhere for the remainder of your visit. There are some… activities that you had in mind that you wanted to get to.|“Do y’all wanna fuck?” you ask, loudly and abruptly. “I wanna fuck. Do you two wanna come with?”]

“[berwyn.dsn|Yes,” [berwyn.name] answers immediately, approaching you and grabbing you by the collar of your [pc.upperGarment]. “You’re coming too, Matiha. [berwyn.lovesAnal|We’ll see if I can’t get you to love butt stuff like I do before we’re done.|Let’s work out some of that tension.]”

Matiha’s face flushes red, but she doesn’t object: she calmly stops what she’s doing before following you and [berwyn.name] through the halls of the fortress.|Yes!” [berwyn.name] says, perhaps a little loudly, before calming [berwyn.himHer]self. A deep red blush spreads across [berwyn.hisHer] face as [berwyn.heShe] realizes just how excited [berwyn.heShe] came off as. “I mean… yes. I’d love that[berwyn.lovesAnal|. It’s been too long since… um… since I’ve had… my butt….” [berwyn.HeShe] shyly looks away, unable to finish [berwyn.hisHer] sentence, but it’s pretty clear that [berwyn.heShe] wants you to do <b>something</b> with [berwyn.hisHer] butt].[berwyn.lovesAnal||”]

Matiha attempts to maintain her composure at the sight of how giddy [berwyn.name] is to get started, but her own blush creeps up her neck and face, turning her skin pink. You tease her further by asking if she’s coming.

She, in response, calmly stops what she’s doing and stands. “No,” she answers – and then smiles lecherously. “But hopefully, I will be soon.”

And with that, you have two lovers hanging off your arms as you make your way down the corridors of the fortress.

There’s a bit of silence between you and Matiha for the moment. At first, you took it as her simply enjoying your company, and that she’s not much of a speaking, extroverted type… but every so often, when you glance towards her, you catch her eyes on some part of you before she suddenly pulls them away, focusing on something else. One time, you catch her biting into her lower lip.

And to make things even more obvious, her erect nipples are poking against her fabric with as much subtlety as a pebble in your shoe, and there’s a certain pheromone in the air that gets more and more intense the more she grinds her thighs together. It seems her overcharged libido is starting to become an issue for her.

Which, in a way, is great for you – you know exactly what you want. She just needs you to make the first move.

You stand and bring yourself behind Matiha, and she continues doing what she’s doing, pretending that you’re not about to make a move on her. She doesn’t flinch when you bring your hands gently down to her shoulders and you start to massage at them, your fingers squeezing down on the muscles along their span, and she doesn’t object when your fingers start to play with the neckline of her robes, daring to start exploring a little further.

Before you take it any further than that, though, you lean in and, in a lowered, whispered voice, you ask her if she wouldn’t like to take this meeting elsewhere and… escalate things.

In response, she leans her head back; she closes her eyes; and she takes a long, deep sigh, in and out through her nose. When she reopens them, they’re immediately locked onto yours. [matiha.isLover|“This new libido of mine is tearing me apart, [pc.name],” she says. Although her tone is steady, her eyes are already begging you to fuck her stupid. “I need you to treat it as badly as it’s treating me.”|“What I’d like you to do, [pc.name], in no uncertain terms,” she says, “is to take me to bed; take off my clothes; and make me cum so hard that I forget who I am and what day it is.”]

That sounds like something you can do. Your hand trails down her arm, your fingers gently closing around her hand and guiding her into a standing position… but it’s her that’s dragging you onward, eager to get to her personal space so that you can tend to her issues with all haste.]

 

[B]

Just wanted to say I'm enjoying Agni so far - Though sad it seems her capacity is smaller than most characters in the game? My champion's penis is 12 inches in length/3 inches across (which seems to be the sweet spot to get the most content for most fen and crew games). I find it funny that my champion can bottom out in a female Lyric but can't seem to do so to a girl over twice her size! Haha. Just curious if this was an oversight or intentional, since they are both your characters. Otherwise like I said, really liking the character.

That sounds like a coding thing to me, not something that I would have specified. I'll try to remember bringing it up in workchat.

I had no idea Agni was in the works, so when I saw the public patch today and saw MUSCLE BIRB I was incredibly excited... and still am!

What sort of class/role does she fill? Can she replace Brint/Brienne as a frontliner? If so, she's gonna be a mainstay in my party from here on out <3 (And hell, she might still be, I love her looks! Does she have pregnancy content? Since she seems to be a harpy, I kinda assume so, but it's better to doublecheck)

I was hoping to save preg content for later down the line, ideally after her first quest.

In the meantime, however, it's possible that I could write an expansion where she lays unfertilized eggs for you to use as TF items whenever you want. She could be your blue/pink/gold/whatever egg factory.

A question. In Lyric and also Agni dialogues the champion states that they are not monogamous, etc. Is this a fixed statement, or let's say I play the whole game with just one partner, or never have any sexual encounter, Would that change it? Just curious tbh.

There's a parser for if the PC is a virgin, but not for if the PC is monogamous and has only ever had sex with a single character. It's not realistic to assume that the PC has never had sex by the time you can get Lyric or Agni and I'd be accounting for a vanishingly small playerbase if I did, so it's not worth the effort, and, again, there's no way to tell if a PC is mono, so that just leaves the assumption that the PC has lots of sex.

Which, in my and other writer's defence, isn't an unfair assumption to make. We write porn. This is a porn game.

hmm, Then I'd say it would be better if wasn't mentioned in any scene by the champion, no? This way any player still could RP in another way if they want. Having your champion says it to someone is like the writer taking the lead of what you, the player must be, instead of what you could be. I'm asking it because from all scenes I've got so far, those are the only ones that have my champion saying it to someone, and it felt kinda, weird. Maybe is just me.

This, however, is a valid response and I'll try to be more careful with my characterizing the PC. I just want you to understand that this is a fine line to walk: the PC is already a nameless, featureless blob, and there's only so little any one of us can write for them without them just turning into a mannequin where things happen to them rather than them taking any sort of initiative. Sometimes, we just have to make assumptions, which means we're going to be wrong with at least a small fraction of the userbase.

I wonder if Agni will get threesomes, she seems like the type that would enjoy it.. not including hellhound lady.

This is also a pretty touch-and-go subject that needs to be handled with some care. I'm not saying no, but I am saying that there are currently no plans and writing them needs to be treated with a bit more care than "hey, PC, wanna fuck that third party over there?"

So, will Berwyn still change between dommy and subby due to choices/actions?

Yes, with the option of locking your relationship in if you make him too subby/dommy.

 

[Wint3rRyd3r]

without them just turning into a mannequin where things happen to them rather than them taking any sort of initiative.

Yeah but like, have you seen some of those mannequins? They some damn fine looking fiberglass and plastic.

This is a porn game.

You say that, but how long until the any percent rusty knife solo virgin no sex playthrough challenge? Because joking aside, someone is gonna try it someday. And will it truly be a porn game after that is achieved?

 

[Animalistic]

too subby/dommy.

And maybe lovely dovey option?

 

[sumdude3456]

And maybe lovely dovey option?

Don't ask the poor man to add another variable when he's already this deep into the storyline AND when there's already a poly relationship option with Berry and Matiha.

 

[wery12345]

B is only human, he hasnt sold his soul for unholy smut powers.

 

[Tadokiari]

Yes, it's not like The Observer, I keep wondering how it has time to not only add more content to the kitsune.

 

[Animalistic]

Don't ask the poor man to add another variable when he's already this deep into the storyline AND when there's already a poly relationship option with Berry and Matiha.

I do not think that what I am suggesting is an added variable. It is just locking the existing one so that it can not be raised or lowered.

Because, while I love dommy Berwyn (some of my favourite content that appeals to my submissive side in these games), having a male companion with an option where both he and my champion are on same power dynamic when it comes to sex is refreshing. And not having to juggle variables would be ideal to me. Just 2 lovers going at it would be nice, you know.

 

[B]

Berwyn's dom/sub meter has a 'neutral' mode where neither of you are particularly dommy or subby towards each other. I wouldn't say they're 'lovers' in that mode, though, since you can be both dominant and a lover; it's more that your attitude towards each other is casual and relaxed.

If you want an idea of how that'd look in practice, then, I believe Nikol is going to come out next patch, and Berwyn's dom/sub meter is meant to be copy-pasted from his, so check that out and tell me what you think!

 

[Animalistic]

No worries, I understand that. I have been reading your work in this thread since Nikol so I get how that is going to play out.
I just use lover since "neutral route" feels/sounds like he does not really care, if you get my drift.

Edit: Can not wait for Nikol. Love his design.

Edit2: So does that mean that it would be possible for neutral lovers route lockdown?

 

[mikethor007]

Edit2: So does that mean that it would be possible for neutral lovers route lockdown?

Would need some sort of special action to lock it instead of just swinging too much towards either end of the spectrum.

 

[SmithEK]

Who's Nikol?

 

[Tenalc13]

Who's Nikol?

big dick mino femboy working in brothel

 

[B]

Updated BerryQuest with 1,300 words! This is about halfway through the scene where you (and Matiha, if applicable) dote on Berwyn, giving him gentle kisses and handjobs and smothering him in titties (if applicable).

Once your hand finds the dip of [berwyn.hisHer] belly, you lean in, your nose grazing against [berwyn.hisHers], before your [pc.lipsChaste] press gently against [berwyn.hisHer]. And [berwyn.heShe] reciprocates, matching your gentle-but-eager energy kiss for kiss. The feel of your hand traveling across [berwyn.hisHer] has [berwyn.himHer] flinch every so often, but [berwyn.heShe] does everything [berwyn.heShe] can to keep from using [berwyn.hisHer] own hands with you and instead let you go at your own pace.[berwyn.andMatiha|

And Matiha is hardly idle and content to lie there and watch you and [berwyn.name] kiss: her own right hand mimics your journey in reverse, starting at [berwyn.name]’s thighs and gently tracing their way upward, across the fat of [berwyn.hisHer] flank and hip and meeting your hand across [berwyn.name]’s stomach. When your fingers touch hers, they intertwine: you wrap your fingers gently around hers, and you hold onto each other, your self-imposed task of touching [berwyn.name]’s soft body momentarily forgotten. But only momentarily – as much as you’re enjoying the calmer energy of this lovemaking session, there’s still more you need to explore.]

Your hand travels lower, your fingers finding the crook of [berwyn.hisHer] thighs[berwyn.cockRange 0 2||, with [berwyn.hisHer] warm, heavy balls resting against them]. You palm gently at the width of [berwyn.hisHer] leg, delicately squeezing it, feeling its suppleness in your grip – and doing everything you can to keep from adjusting your fingers and touching [berwyn.hisHer] [berwyn.hasVagina|pussy, which is hot enough that you can feel its moist heat radiate against your [pc.skinFurScales] from where they are[berwyn.isHerm|, or [berwyn.hisHer]]][berwyn.cockRange 1 2 3|diminuitive shaft and balls – not that that’s difficult, given their size|full and pulsating balls, no matter how much they yearn for your attention|massive, overstuffed nuts – although that’s difficult to do, given their sheer immensity].

Eventually, you pull away from [berwyn.name]’s lips, but you don’t stop: you immediately transition to kissing [berwyn.hisHer] jawline, then down [berwyn.hisHer] neck, then to the top of [berwyn.hisHer] chest. The feel of [berwyn.hisHer] lips against yours keeps with you as you travel, mixing pleasantly with the impeccable texture of [berwyn.hisHer] silky-smooth skin.[berwyn.andMatiha|

And as soon as you leave [berwyn.name]’s lips unattended, you hear the telltale sounds of more kisses just above your head: Matiha’s taken over, pressing her lips against [berwyn.name]’s, to the point where her own hand has stopped just as the [berwyn.cupRange 0 1|base of [berwyn.hisHer] ribs|swell of [berwyn.hisHer] left breast]. [matiha.isLover|And it’s with the same sort of loving, passionate, but slow-and-steady energy as you had been displaying up until now – the kind of energy that a lover shows another in a moment of intimacy. They’d be there all day if you didn’t all have an endgoal in mind, and you wouldn’t blame them: you could see yourself kissing [berwyn.name] all day, too.|But with it’s a bit more… fervor and intensity than you had displayed. You peek an eye up at them, and you see a long, distinct flash of Matiha’s tongue in [berwyn.name]’s mouth, with such intensity that her tongue pushes out from the inside of [berwyn.hisHer] cheek. The poor girl’s got decades of ‘backlog’ to catch up on, and she’s letting her lust and libido get the best of her. Not that you blame her – sometimes, the best medicine can be rough-and-heavy tongue-kissing for hours at a time.]

Who's Nikol?

Feast your eyes! Nikol is an escort that I wrote for the upcoming Khor'Minos brothel.

 

[SmithEK]

He looks like a flat chested girl.. good for him.

 

[wery12345]

Ah, I was wonder who that was when Moria posted it on twitter.