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Papum

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So, for now it's just mostly choosing between a tank and a glass cannon? I see. Thanks
She is definitely not a glass cannon much more so if you give the armor to her, touch her biceps and you'l see.
 
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Papum

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since its fully public now, can someone PLEASE tell me how to snitch on vrannus? i dont know why but he perticularly just unnerves me with his whole character and i wanna snitch
I think you have to confronted Senator Khaius at Phase 1 about the baths, dunno about this one.
In Phase 2 after descovering what Vrannus is doing in the backrooms, seeing the desacrated shrine and snitching on his father after getting out of there (this one i'm not really sure about it).
Than at Phase 3 selecting at the high table with what should be done probably the corruption in the court option and afterwards talking to the tiran woman about what you saw an phase 2 in the backrooms with Vrannus and the shrine desacration and finnaly accusing him to Kassyra.
Probably also during Over Troubled Water quest you should have switched the valves so to stop the flow of the corrupted water and have capture both captured them at the end of the dungeon, this i really don't know if it is related or not.
And than
you could probably get this option to highlight so you can maybe tell Raqian about it.

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And taking the real Calise back to the king (dunno if there will be an difference if you go with or without the deal with the real Calise).

If your able to do it, Warn'a Brother. ^^
As i probably won't be doing it till i make my full anti-demon run.
 
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Punccline

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I think you have to confronted Senator Khaius at Phase 1 about the baths, dunno about this one.
In Phase 2 after descovering what Vrannus is doing in the backrooms, seeing the desacrated shrine and snitching on his father after getting out of there (this one i'm not really sure about it).
Than at Phase 3 selecting at the high table with what should be done probably the corruption in the court option and afterwards talking to the tiran woman about what you saw an phase 2 in the backrooms with Vrannus and the shrine desacration and finnaly accusing him to Kassyra.
Probably also during Over Troubled Water quest you should have switched the valves so to stop the flow of the corrupted water and have capture both captured them at the end of the dungeon, this i really don't know if it is related or not.
And than
you could probably get this option to highlight so you can maybe tell Raqian about it.

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And taking the real Calise back to the king (dunno if there will be an difference if you go with or without the deal with the real Calise).

If your able to do it, Warn'a Brother. ^^
As i probably won't be doing it till i make my full anti-demon run.
I was able to do it, but nothing actually came of it. The only difference is that Raqian and Varena go "woah you're right" and then Raqian leaves without a fight. Neither Kelsaz nor Varena have anything to say about Vrannus after the dungeon even if you rat him out.

I'm HOPING that Vrannus's comeupance is a thing that'll be implemented down the line, similar to other consequences of the Siege. Little worried it may not happen though, because now that we've thoroughly foiled him and Tollus is on his last legs, there's not much more damage Vrannus can do.... right?
 
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orropo

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I was able to do it, but nothing actually came of it. The only difference is that Raqian and Varena go "woah you're right" and then Raqian leaves without a fight. Neither Kelsaz nor Varena have anything to say about Vrannus after the dungeon even if you rat him out.

I'm HOPING that Vrannus's comeupance is a thing that'll be implemented down the line, similar to other consequences of the Siege. Little worried it may not happen though, because now that we've thoroughly foiled him and Tollus is on his last legs, there's not much more damage Vrannus can do.... right?
hint hint nudge nudge - i havent seen it but theres a demon bust of vrannus so he aint done yet
 

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also not really a spoiler, you didn't think that he would be a demon?? he's like, so insecure he corrupted himself and tried to do the same to the whole kingdom
 

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so i just finished the siege, have two saves now. One where i imprisoned Faceless Blade and Let the real Calise go, and one where i killed both Faceless and Real!Calise and then told the truth about Fake!Calise.

In the former save, i can't find Faceless in my dungeon or anywhere else, is there just not content written for that outcome yet?

Of the two, i prefer the latter outcome i think. Although i wish it was possible to kill Real!Calise while keeping Faceless Blade prisoner. It's weird that you can only spare Faceless if Calise is also spared.
 

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Can someone link to the best guide for what you're supposed to do before entering the Siege of Khor Minos battle?
 

Punccline

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so i just finished the siege, have two saves now. One where i imprisoned Faceless Blade and Let the real Calise go, and one where i killed both Faceless and Real!Calise and then told the truth about Fake!Calise.

In the former save, i can't find Faceless in my dungeon or anywhere else, is there just not content written for that outcome yet?

Of the two, i prefer the latter outcome i think. Although i wish it was possible to kill Real!Calise while keeping Faceless Blade prisoner. It's weird that you can only spare Faceless if Calise is also spared.
The content isn't all out yet, they're rolling out piece by piece over the next few updates.
 
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Right so act 2 ending was pretty bad in my opinion. not much I can say about the siege it was basically a glorified game of rock paper scissors only you can see what your opponent draws before you do. The dungeon itself was nothing to write home about either. none of the bosses or loot really impressed me apart from the chaos blade. Everyone talking about the Calise reveal but honestly the thing that really surprised me there was Katya's brother being stationed there as one of the boss and getting to fight and kill Kassyra.

As I'm sure you're all aware if you clicked the spoiler(or you don't care) the real Calise was the dark knight all along. The reveal felt pretty meaningless narratively speaking apart from the fact that it opens up and highlights a slough of even more glaring plot holes than the Lumia ex machina at the end of act one. For one, why does Kas give a shit about Calise killing demons that she feels the need to deal with her personally. She never gave shit about the demons she abandoned in the winter city or harvest valley. or the ones she practically encouraged the player to kill throughout act two, so why now with Calise does she feel the need to step in. second off if she was going to steal Calise's Identity it seems like it would be prudent to kill her so if nothing else she won't have a chance to blow your cover. I honestly can't think of a good reason for Kas to let her live even as a demon. Her being a demon doesn't stop her from killing other demons nor does it stop her from hunting Kas, if anything making her a demon would (and did) only make her more of a problem for Kas. Third, Calise was supposed to be Velun's Champion meaning she shouldn't be able to turn into a demon since her soul shouldn't be on her. But I guess Velun just works differently for some convenient reason. Finally, why in the world did Calise join the cult that worships the demon bitch that just raped her soul out of her and lead an army to try and destroy the very people she was sent to protect. I can see her not giving a shit about protecting people after turning into a demon and I saw the explanation of Tollus promising her a chance to fight Kas again but THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE. The bald creep who you know is working with the demon offered you exactly what you want even though he has no means of garaunteeing that in exchange for following his orders, and you just believe him. Did her fight with Kas leave her some kind of brain damage or was she always a moron.

I did enjoy the scene where we got to reveal everything to the king and Kas playing up the villian bit but overall pretty bad finale.
 

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SPOILERS

1. Kas may have not cared about the individual demons, but Calise's actions would have slowed Kas down too much. Calise was well on her way to stopping the Demon Invasion during the two weeks the PC was in a coma at the start of the game. Kas and the Cult were also working together (mutually exploiting eachother) at that time.

2. Arrogance mainly. Also, Kas could be reasonably assured that Calise couldn't do anything to stop her. Demonification broke Calise and even if it didn't Kas was already thoroughly entrenched in Khor'minos.

3. Calise was a Paladin. Paladin's are in the service of the Seven but are not soulbound. Lumia has paladins, but those that are soulbound to her are Valkyries.

4. Tollus very quickly split with Kas and both were working to undermine eachother almost immediately. Tollus probably rocked up to Calise and basically said that the Cult is the only place that she would belong in as a demon, she would have a purpose and fights, and he was going to stab Kas in the back.
 

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SPOILERS

1. Kas may have not cared about the individual demons, but Calise's actions would have slowed Kas down too much. Calise was well on her way to stopping the Demon Invasion during the two weeks the PC was in a coma at the start of the game. Kas and the Cult were also working together (mutually exploiting eachother) at that time.

2. Arrogance mainly. Also, Kas could be reasonably assured that Calise couldn't do anything to stop her. Demonification broke Calise and even if it didn't Kas was already thoroughly entrenched in Khor'minos.

3. Calise was a Paladin. Paladin's are in the service of the Seven but are not soulbound. Lumia has paladins, but those that are soulbound to her are Valkyries.

4. Tollus very quickly split with Kas and both were working to undermine eachother almost immediately. Tollus probably rocked up to Calise and basically said that the Cult is the only place that she would belong in as a demon, she would have a purpose and fights, and he was going to stab Kas in the back.
1. That's not the reason Kassyra stated and even if it was it wouldn't make much sense because the only way that would be logically feasible would be if every new born demon and imp ran head first into her axe the moment they were created.

2. not killing someone who has been and will continue to be a problem for you is just stupid. her entrenchment in the city ended not mattering at all when Calise outed her.

3. incorrect.
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4. again that make any sense because she has no reason to think this motherfucker isn't lying to manipulate her. She has so many other options that she didn't even bother considering and that's just fucking dumb

look I mean no disrespect when I say this but you were way to quick to come in with real bad excuses for this shit.

Calm down. The authors made mistakes. It's okay, you don't have to make up a bunch of bullshit to defend them.