Moral choice in porn the horror... its about sub sera.
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I don't sell her stuff, I have Anno. And if, for some reason, I wanted to not be her sub, I'd buy things from her even if I didn't need them. I have a ton of extra credits, and I love being able to help people, so that's what I use it for.
Plus I'm really poor in real life, so it's nice to be the one paying for someone else instead of feeling like a bum...
Plus I'm really poor in real life, so it's nice to be the one paying for someone else instead of feeling like a bum...
Firstly, its not so much that Steele selling her stuff put her down the crapper. It was Sera who did that to herself. Most of the money she made with her stuff went into very expensive mods and into maintaining that. Poor girl just has poor business sense.
When you take on Sub!Sera, what you're essentially doing is giving her a disciplined lifestyle. That's not necessarily a bad thing, especially for someone like Sera. She went wild while at school and rebelling against her very religious parents and that's the way things continued. She learns discipline and if you help her on the merchant path, becomes a better merchant than she was before and more aware that you can't act like a bitch to customers. Even slave Sera gets into a healthier mindset than she did at the beginning.
Is it moral right to enslave Sera? Probably not, but it definitely better than what her creditors might have done.
But on the other hand, you're still getting her to learn and grow....unless you do an absolutely cack job disciplining her.
When you take on Sub!Sera, what you're essentially doing is giving her a disciplined lifestyle. That's not necessarily a bad thing, especially for someone like Sera. She went wild while at school and rebelling against her very religious parents and that's the way things continued. She learns discipline and if you help her on the merchant path, becomes a better merchant than she was before and more aware that you can't act like a bitch to customers. Even slave Sera gets into a healthier mindset than she did at the beginning.
Is it moral right to enslave Sera? Probably not, but it definitely better than what her creditors might have done.
But on the other hand, you're still getting her to learn and grow....unless you do an absolutely cack job disciplining her.
I do not care. In the TiTs world it's fucked or be fucked. You are literally in a race to be the CEO of a megacorp in a dystopian future and you're worried about some blue bitch running a po dunk store on some space station.
The shareholders are gonna hate you.
The shareholders are gonna hate you.
When I say putting her in debt, I more meant you are the one that pushed it over the edge. If you didn't sell her stuff she is "relatively fine" kinda wish there was a chance that it could happen randomly. After she see you help Jade and a few others she might message you to ask for help then it could lead into the quest. She would still be just as angry at you, because she thought you would have given her the money, not gone ahead and brought her. And other than the first scene I don't think much would change overall.
That said it is true that she does mostly cause this herself and she does end up in a generally better place, after you buy out her contract and finish "teaching" her to behave. Plus it allows her to actually let herself relax ,instead of always having to put up a tough exterior. Where if you did the other path she can only do that in the nursery.
Side note there is what 3, 4 characters now that are on our ship because they all suck with money admittedly Sera is second worst, Reaha being the worst (though by the time you free her she has already learned what not to do) Yammi is third with Kase being the technical best with money.
They probably already do when I casually flush 500k on a eye operation for a yoga instructor that I met about 10 days ago then a cowgirl that I met once another 5k. There was also that 7k on a ice cream maker that I met about 3 hours ago. Ow yer also that 15k on a toy so I can remotely screw a oversexed Jackal herm from across the galaxy. And you get the idea there inst a Steele alive that is good with money we just earn enough that it doesn't matter.
Other silly decisions include 15k to help a monkey be a girl. 6k to regenerate a arm for an ant. About 200k on clothing and accessories for a robot. Giving nipples to a panda 4.5k. Collar for a puppy 2k. 100k so I can get a 6 legged horse pregnant.
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When I am playing a kind character I don't sub Sera. Hard character always. Mischevious I am undecided and I usually keep putting it off.
That's your money, that you earned by your own hard work (and mugging people). If anything, they're going to be upset about the new boss taking a leave of absence for an indeterminate amount of time to parts unknown and did you hear the guy used to be a mercenary this company is going down the drain I swear.
Also anything that reduces the number of dickgirls in the galaxy is automatically moral. Fite me nerds.
Also anything that reduces the number of dickgirls in the galaxy is automatically moral. Fite me nerds.
Yammi didn't have a money issue, she was born into "indentured servitude". And Sera's purple, not blue.
She is pink if you want her to be.
Also that's why Yammi is third cause she doesn't have normal money issues, unless you count the fine she is given after you talk to her, which I am pretty sure she would struggle to pay. Then you bail her out with money.
On the other hand Kase has no problems with money hes just working for a shitty company that doesn't pay for health care. When you invite him aboard you just pay the cost, for him breaking his employment contract.
So basically in this game you solve every problem by just throwing money at it.
Pretty much yer. If money doesn't solve you either throw something you picked up like platinum or tease/beat it into submission sometimes with words though that is rare.
Yer though its another mega corp doing it. Not New Texas as a planet to my knowledge and everyone there is either to stupid, to distracted by the flirty horny cowgirls or selectively ignorant to care. Also they likely see this happen fairly often, so stopped trying to fix it when it happens, since they know there will just be another one tomorrow.
Its always both weird and funny when u see people talking "morals" specially in a game where there's just so many things, even at the start of the game building/changing/picking the genetics of you character, that would not be considered moral anywhere outside the game world
It's supposed to be a shitty thing you do to her. I never wanted to dissimulate and allow the PC to 'get' her without having to do something amoral. I've always felt there's a lack of decent 'bad' options in the game, in that sort of vein at least.
How you interpret your actions afterwards, whether you make her into a concubine or a pet merchant, is entirely up to the player. If you think making her your debt slave was justifiable because she eventually becomes a better business person at the end... I'm not going to take that away from anyone.
How you interpret your actions afterwards, whether you make her into a concubine or a pet merchant, is entirely up to the player. If you think making her your debt slave was justifiable because she eventually becomes a better business person at the end... I'm not going to take that away from anyone.
Some things can still be objectively wrong, like slavery. Gene editing is far from immoral, however a parent should only be able to have genetic diseases erased and such, deciding what someone else should be from the ground up is fucked up(not that it would keep rich people from doing it anyway, their child or not).
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True due to what you have to do to go onto that route it means I rarely if ever do so. Buying up Reaha, Kase and Yammi's contract I can see being good because you are getting them out of a crap place and none of them hate you for it, quite the opposite. But with Sera while she's not doing great, she is still earning enough to live and already has a established life on the station.
Yep I agree with one slight difference, that being go ahead a give your kid some advantages, stronger bones and or muscles, better eyesight, better memory ect but don't force them to become anything let them choose. So kinda like our dad in game, while yes he somehow decided our various body part sizes. Nearly all of which would be affect by diet exercise and other factors but he technically never forced us to be anything.
We choose our career before the game started at least I think we did. We choose to go on a intergalactic fetch quest. We choose who we bring along and if we have kids.
Only thing that doesn't match up is the gift he chooses like Sterile Bulgy Milky etc but personally I reckon that we have them all but they lay dormant unless we choose to activate one as that was all the body can handle basically a inbuilt TF.
I think gene editing is amoral, in that it's not a moral or immoral choose. It simply IS. It's a tool, the question is in how you use that tool. If you use it to make your kid a bit healthier, that's probably more. If you use it to make your kid into your fetishes, I'm calling Chris Hanson, that's immoral.
Slavery on the other hand, like actual slavery, not some roleplay stuff... Yeah that's immoral. Sure, you can be nice to your slave...but you still have a slave. Reaha is a special case in that she's already a slave and you have the power to free her by buying her. Sera? You PUT her in that situation. That's morally fucked. Sure, you can get her to put her life together as a result, but that's some "ends justify the means" type stuff that I don't necessarily get behind.
Well, not in real life, anyway. This is a game, I almost always enslave Sera. This game is full of bad moral decisions. Like all the rape. Loooots of rape in here. There's a point where you have to acknowledge that IRL morals don't apply, and playing as Rapey McRapeface is about that point. Sure, I COULD play my character as chaste and pure... but I probably won't. Even if I'm not raping people in this game, I'll probably ACT like I am to get Lash to fight me and offer up those sweet, sweet credits.
Actually, got an idea for two new characters. One who will be a goodie two shoes type: never use lust attacks, never sex encounters after a fight, never use any mean/or hard actions or kill anything while trying to help as many people as possible. The other I will name Rance.
Slavery on the other hand, like actual slavery, not some roleplay stuff... Yeah that's immoral. Sure, you can be nice to your slave...but you still have a slave. Reaha is a special case in that she's already a slave and you have the power to free her by buying her. Sera? You PUT her in that situation. That's morally fucked. Sure, you can get her to put her life together as a result, but that's some "ends justify the means" type stuff that I don't necessarily get behind.
Well, not in real life, anyway. This is a game, I almost always enslave Sera. This game is full of bad moral decisions. Like all the rape. Loooots of rape in here. There's a point where you have to acknowledge that IRL morals don't apply, and playing as Rapey McRapeface is about that point. Sure, I COULD play my character as chaste and pure... but I probably won't. Even if I'm not raping people in this game, I'll probably ACT like I am to get Lash to fight me and offer up those sweet, sweet credits.
Actually, got an idea for two new characters. One who will be a goodie two shoes type: never use lust attacks, never sex encounters after a fight, never use any mean/or hard actions or kill anything while trying to help as many people as possible. The other I will name Rance.
Dickbiscuits, I didn't notice it said "amoral" instead of "immoral", edited post.
I don't see Reaha as a slave. I bought her sure, but it's kind of like adopting a puppy(or child, I suppose): you take care of them, make them better, and love them. Reaha is great, and it felt good to help her get herself together and cure her addiction, and I liked shopping for her. Yammi is similar, I bought her contract to free her, but she decided to come with me and I quite like that decision.
I don't rape in TiTS. It's just not something I'm okay with. I know it's a big draw for some people, like one of my irl friends, but I just don't care for it. Though if my Lust is high and they're literally asking for it I'll go ahead and do it, which is oddly frequent.
Well, maybe I'm a bit unfair, because I include those in the rape bit. If the setting were more realistic, then offers like that would mostly be out of a desire to keep you from killing them. Without including those, TiTS is shockingly light on PC on NPC rape, considering what the previous FenCo game was. Instead, the setting just subjects the PC to all the rape.
No, it's not moral to put Sera in that situation. The real reason (if you're not crew collecting) to get sub Sera is that you want her to eat a big old humble pie because she won't let you be in charge for sexings.
Thankfully, this is a GAME, so I do dastardly stuff and be okay with what I see in the mirror. And TiTS and CoC rarely, rarely try to guilt you for your decisions. Corrupting Jojo in CoC, the worst that would happen would be that Rathazul thinks you're a weirdo (and probably starts sleeping with a dagger under his pillow). It's not Undertale around here.
Thankfully, this is a GAME, so I do dastardly stuff and be okay with what I see in the mirror. And TiTS and CoC rarely, rarely try to guilt you for your decisions. Corrupting Jojo in CoC, the worst that would happen would be that Rathazul thinks you're a weirdo (and probably starts sleeping with a dagger under his pillow). It's not Undertale around here.
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Forget just corrupting Jojo, though. The mark of a real monster is corrupting the Kangaroo girl AND Jojo, and then putting them together.
Even ignoring Steele's incompetence-based evil, you are still most probably going to end up in charge of Steel Tech. Which means that everything bad that your megacorp does, and it's almost certainly up to SOME shit despite being having a solid reputation. So just by simple scaling, Steele ends up hurting more people. Also the majority of fights that Steele gets into are vastly more dickish than the Champion gets into, being as Steele is as close to genetic perfection as tricky vic cared to buy and probably using fancy space-age tech fairly often against the WW2 tech at best natives manage to beat sometimes in spite of those advantages. The champion on the other hand is pretty much on the same playing field as all their opponents or is significantly disadvantaged in the chase of some of the larger or more magically inclined foes. The closest thing to those sorts of odds that Steele faces are going up against the space-magic wielding space-dragon
Well kinda I mean the only thing Steele has that most encounters don't are shields the weapons Steele uses are a low grade civilian class. Perfectly show by the fact that the myr leg rifle is better than every gun not sold by Kattom, till the planet you find it on and only Emmy really sells anything better.
Also I would hardly call fighting the stellar pirates on Tarkus you massively outclassing them I mean one has turrets and drones and another has a frigging mech suit. There is also Amara Fell in full on power armour. The fight with Dane and then the honor guy on Uverto has a jetpack which he uses to stop you meleeing him after one hit, and if you break it he does about triple damage and takes less damage. And also has the ability to infinity Regen his shields and lower lust every other turn. Stormguard is also hard if you don't use tease. Also the big boss spiders. And the bee that meets you when you start climbing the cliff for the Plantation quest, how can't be hit by by two melee or ranged attacks in a row or he ripostes you.
The main difference between the Champion and Steele is that the champions boss fight and normal fight are about as hard as each other. While Steele's boss/mini boss fights are a huge step up in tactics and difficulty. With mini and normal bosses typically having high immunites if not complete immunities to some damage types, mechanics to work around sometimes a rage mode. And at its worst constantly respawning minor enemies or time limits. Where to my knowledge the closets the Champion comes to this, the egg in the goblin cave which is immune to lust. The goblin in the mountains you can enslave, that has a instant you lose attack if you don't wait on that turn. And the must climb every other turn to not get swallowed by sandtrap.
If anything I would say the Champion actually has more advantages than Steele as you can literally get one of the most powerful weapons in the game within 5 minutes of starting the Beautiful Sword which can only be outdone by a max rapier trained Champion using the Jeweled Rapier. Then later you get a suit of armour that heals you every turn, making it nearly impossible to lose via health. And with so few CoC enemies actually using tease to a meaningful degree you are basically sorted.
I'm calling game mechanics on the myr rifle. Also the people you listed as actual threats are people using equal or better tech to yours, are older/more experienced than you, are simply biologically superior to your ass, and/or are on their home turf.