Lumia Soul Bind Question

tmax

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So my favorite build in this game is DawnSword Paladin (spellblade-ish) build and I head-cannon my main character as a devoted Lumian warrior.

That said, I haven’t played recently and am roughly familiar with the lore of valkyries from prior patches, but will the soul bind transformation hard lock you as a female herm/female for it?

I as a hard rule just don’t play female characters and don’t really dig the shemale route either. If you do bind and have your character morphed into a woman/shemale, will there be any customization options to remove said body parts (tits and vag)? I haven’t run a kitsune soul bound character in a hot minute either (it’s just a fuck ton of content to get through and I lost my saves ;-;) but I DO remember that your body is modifiable at least in some capacity (I don’t remember if changing your gender is possible as I’ve never tried).

All that said, I 100% understand why it would be locked into female/herm as well… the Norse mythology themselves are 100% female so here being a direct reference/correlation would track.
 
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As a valkyrie, you would be able to have whatever sex parts or appearance you like, but you would be locked into she/her pronouns. And yeah, it's for the reason you note there at the end.

The actual valkyrie soulbind is waiting on the rest of the valkyries to be coded in, though. You'll need to be familiar with your shieldsisters-to-be before you join their ranks!
 

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As a valkyrie, you would be able to have whatever sex parts or appearance you like, but you would be locked into she/her pronouns. And yeah, it's for the reason you note there at the end.

The actual valkyrie soulbind is waiting on the rest of the valkyries to be coded in, though. You'll need to be familiar with your shieldsisters-to-be before you join their ranks!
So just for a final clarification, does this disable the option underneath the “options” for Gender? I just checked and if you’re a female PC you can toggle and have yourself referred to as a male irregardless of what the text reads under the info tab.

Obviously, when you DO soul bond you’re going to grow tits and a vag more than likely I assume, but for the sake of my character I’d still love to be able to somehow swing it. Even if TECHNICALLY lore wise officially you could say it’s impossible to have a male valkrie. I’m not crushed per se, but I’d love to have my character attain more or less the highest status in Lumia’s eyes he can lol
 

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So just for a final clarification, does this disable the option underneath the “options” for Gender?
Yes.
Obviously, when you DO soul bond you’re going to grow tits and a vag more than likely I assume
A vag is entirely optional. After all, Annika doesn't have one, and she's the first living valkyrie you meet.

Tits? Probably A-cup minimum.
I’m not crushed per se, but I’d love to have my character attain more or less the highest status in Lumia’s eyes he can lol
I mean, you don't have to be a valkyrie to be beloved of the Dawn Maiden. From Sigebert to Sanders, Lumian warrior dilfs are absolutely a thing.
 
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Yes.

A vag is entirely optional. After all, Annika doesn't have one, and she's the first living valkyrie you meet.

Tits? Probably A-cup minimum.

I mean, you don't have to be a valkyrie to be beloved of the Dawn Maiden. From Sigebert to Sanders, Lumian warrior dilfs are absolutely a thing.
Awesome, appreciate the 2AM replies lmao

Still, I’d say binding my immortal soul would still elevate me in status comparatively. I’ll just hard pass on the soul bind and rock my normal pronouns as it’s what I’m comfortable with.

MAYBE though I’ll run a shemale wyld elf Ryn focused play-through. Historically I’m not crazy about having a single character that just fucks everyone and everything (male cat courtesan would be the closest), I like to have pretty specified partners for the character as much as the poly thing is cool for some people and lore wise monogamy ain’t a thing for the champion, I still pretty much try to keep them in line with certain NPCs. And Ryn is a hard one cause not only is she pretty needy (cute but needs extra care for obvious reasons, fuck you alissa) but also she lacks the parts to create a royal heir/heiress and as I run solely male characters, so do I lol.

Doubt it’s even a thought, but it would be cool for Ryn to have an option to transform into a Valkyrie, maybe to circumvent not having a vagina. Though granted I’m it sure if she would actually WANT one because I do feel like a part of her arc is becoming comfortable in her own skin and learning confidence so maybe this would be bad for her narratively. I’ll always love her though regardless (and the court of dommy elf mommies).
 
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Damn, one of her most famous paladins jumped ships. Does Velun offer better employ benefits or what?
 

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She does not. And I'm not adding my more TFs to poor Ryn, she's already complex enough XD


He USED to be one of Lumia's most famous paladins.
Ya that’s straight lol, I really gotta run a futa elf character for her in that case, time to bust out that sweet wyld elf with Dove wings into true Valkyrie (once’s it’s created obviously).

good luck Savin
 

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Damn, one of her most famous paladins jumped ships. Does Velun offer better employ benefits or what?
Based on the Gweyr quest line, Sander I believe sorta becomes very jaded in his youth with her because of the I guess you could call it non-interventionist policy by the gods in general. Well, I say that but for the most part Kero’s interacts heavily with his people just in secret.

I digress, Lumia at least doesn’t just show up when her followers need help and at the time there was a lot of suffering in his life and others which just made him fall out of love I think. Not sure about his swap, BUT Velun is more nature based so it’s a possibility that he just found peace again in his quiet life in Hawkthorne amongst the wilderness.

Take it with a grain though, I usually speed through the dialogue since I’ve played through the quests a fuck ton.
 

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Dang so it'll be awhile before we can Soulbind with Lumia then, if we need to get to know the others first. Sounds fair. Hopefully it wont be too long until then. :)
 

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First, who is Sigebert.
Sigebert was Princess Iveryn's human (and Lumian) husband, and after her death in battle he founded the Order of the Oriflamme - a Lumian paladin order centered in what would eventually become Yvennes - in her honor. That makes him the first grandmaster of the group that Liaden currently belongs to. Lumia also made Sigebert the first Sunbearer, wielder of the Dawnsword. He was one of the greatest heroes of the Godswar, and Sanders (plus optionally Etheryn) gives a brief sketch of his biography in Dawnsword Quest.
Damn, one of her most famous paladins jumped ships. Does Velun offer better employ benefits or what?
Dawnsword Quest goes into this in not inconsiderable detail.
Ya that’s straight lol, I really gotta run a futa elf character for her in that case, time to bust out that sweet wyld elf with Dove wings into true Valkyrie (once’s it’s created obviously).
That would make Etheryn unimaginably happy.
Dang so it'll be awhile before we can Soulbind with Lumia then, if we need to get to know the others first. Sounds fair. Hopefully it wont be too long until then. :)
It's all written. Just gotta be coded.
 
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Is that is the Quest I need to have Linden for? Or do I just need to have finished Azys quest where she backstabs us? Forgot since the first, and the last, time I did was the day of its relise.
 

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High Ground only requires completing Winter Wolf; Liaden's presence is optional, though you'll miss a huge amount of content (and the alternate ending option/access to the Guldring) if you haven't finished Land of Milky Honey then done the followup scene with Lia and Sanders before starting the quest.

That would make Etheryn unimaginably happy.
Ryn's always wanted her very own sun mommy. xD
 

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Do I lose access to information above which which Aly is alluding to -- about Sanders and his loss of faith in Lumia -- If I do not bring Liaden with me?
 

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I mean, yeah... That is what heartless monsters want: a heart of their own no matter the source.
 

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I mean, yeah... That is what heartless monsters want: a heart of their own no matter the source.
Wut? I haven’t done the quest but is there a reason for you saying that lol? I mean debatably all of the gods are heartless, since they were quite literally all emotionless, mindless wraiths prior to become “gods”
 

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Oh, I am just teasing. I wanted to reply with "Smooth" to TheIrishOtakus comment, but I ended up leaning into my prior ones set up, which in itself was just a joke. Since giving up your soul to, what amounts to, become an intern to all powerful being with some worker benefits, does not seem like the best use of your all powerful essence.
 

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By the by @Alypia , this line wouldn't have been included in the Valkyrie codex just for the sake of Ryn and the Champ's future, would it? :D
Lifespan among the valkyries has been difficult to gauge. Some valkyries live much longer lives than the average of their race, but others live no longer than normal. Most often, this coincides with their retirement from general duties, or to match the lifespan of a lover.
 
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Oh, I am just teasing. I wanted to reply with "Smooth" to TheIrishOtakus comment, but I ended up leaning into my prior ones set up, which in itself was just a joke. Since giving up your soul to, what amounts to, become an intern to all powerful being with some worker benefits, does not seem like the best use of your all powerful essence.
ah okay lol, I felt like I was missing some context here lol
 

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By the by @Alypia , this line wouldn't have been included in the Valkyrie codex just for the sake of Ryn and the Champ's future, would it? :D
Hey man if I'm gonna give up my immortal soul AND gender preference I sure as hell wanna at LEAST be able to match Ryn's lifespan to not only further the royal line but also just have actual time to spend with her. Since you can't actually use the TF items for Boer'Alvar to change your lifespan sadly
 
Imagine giving your soul to a heartless being.

Especially ones that haven't even seen fit to offer you a freebee boon when you're running around cleaning up this whole demon outbreak mess and saving the lives and/or souls of their people free of charge whilst they sit around and probably post memes about how stupid we are on the divine message boards.


SMH deities these days, it's all take and no give with them. I'd get more value out of selling my soul for an Arby's gift card.
 

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Question, does any preg content involving Lumia require you to be soul bound to her?
 

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I don't believe the gods can have children, at all. So there shouldn't be preg content involving Lumia?
 

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Lumia has her ways, you can learn how she does it after completing her quest.