Kassyra in Other Fictional Settings

[HeroicSpirit]

Hey, I was wondering-how would Kassyra handle herself in the below fictional settings if she was transported to them?

Here are some scenarios I wrote out for you to respond to, but if you feel like adding your own, let me know!

1. Beach City, approximately four years after the end of Steven Universe Future: Steven is back home from college to celebrate his 20th birthday when a new entity arrives, exiting through a portal above the cliffside where the Crystal Temple is located. Deciding to not stand by for what might be a potential disaster and do what he does best: try to make friends with whatever has shown up to cause trouble with the power of music. Unfortunately, that might be trickier than he thinks...

2. Republic City, 3 years Post-Legend of Korra: As Korra is having a dinner with Asami in a luxurious high-rise restaurant, she suddenly notices that the spirits have gone wild and, more alarmingly, quite horny. Knowing that this is her responsibility as the avatar, she heads out to find out what has been corrupting the spirits. Hopefully, she thinks, this won’t effect her too badly...

3. The Mushroom Kingdom: As Princess Peach waits for Mario to come over for some cake, suddenly a portal of purple energy appears above her castle and, out from it, appears the demoness, who looks down upon the puny Mushroom subjects as all look on in shock and horror. However, just as she wraps her clawed hand around Peach’s arm, Mario and Luigi arrives and prepare to fight...

 

[Savin]

I have never engaged with any of these media, so I'll take a pass on that :X

 

[Paradox01]

I've never even heard of the first two, and the third... Maybe if I were 12 I could write something up but then again, if I were 12 I wouldn't have discovered Kassyra and CoC2 so...

It's a real pickle.

 

[Emerald]

Keep Kas and everything CoC2 away from Steven Universe please.

 

[Kesil]

It has come to a point where I can tell that a thread was created by HeroicSpirit by its title alone: it always covers Tumblr-esque fandoms XD

 

[SomeNobody]

This is a bad thread and you should feel bad.

 

[TheShepard256]

Naturally, I (unlike most others) am going to take this seriously. I've no idea for the first two since I've never watched a single episode of either series, but I'll give my thoughts on the third one:

The Mushroom Kingdom: As Princess Peach waits for Mario to come over for some cake, suddenly a portal of purple energy appears above her castle and, out from it, appears the demoness, who looks down upon the puny Mushroom subjects as all look on in shock and horror. However, just as she wraps her clawed hand around Peach’s arm, Mario and Luigi arrives and prepare to fight...

First off, I'll assume the magics of the CoC and Mario settings are compatible (e.g. Mario characters can become demons via cumming out their soul as Lethicite); otherwise, Kassyra will probably be unable to spread corruption and thus only pose a physical threat, which is less fun to consider since we'll have to consider it anyways. Next, we'll need to establish who could pose a genuine threat to Kassyra's plans. Of the entities who have shown to possess any real power in the entire Mario series I know of:

Spoiler

• Rosalina is only seen intervening when the fate of the entire universe, not just the Mushroom Kingdom and the planet it resides on, is at stake. Kassyra doesn't have access to spaceflight technology, so she only poses a threat to the Mushroom Planet (for now) and thus won't catch Rosalina's attention.
• The Star Spirits and their Star Rod have only intervened once, and that was after Bowser stole the Rod and imprisoned the Spirits. Even then, their powers were limited to assisting Mario in battle and negating the Star Rod's power. I'll assume they're not going to be a threat unless Kassyra directly targets them and Mario manages to save them again.
• The various new villainous factions from each Mario RPG except Paper Mario 64 (e.g. Cackletta, the X-Nauts) are also out, since they're always beaten for good by the end of the game they debut in. Kasyrra fills that role in the current scenario, so we're not going to get a new one to challenge her.
• Bowser and his Koopa Kingdom are always around, and given the situation chances are he's about to enact a plot to kidnap Peach again. They're a possible threat.
• Mario and any companions he may gather would also pose a threat, since he is the main protagonist of the entire series and can consistently defeat every other threat to the Mushroom Kingdom.

TL;DR Kassyra's main problems are Mario & co., and the Koopa Kingdom. I'll format the rest of my response as if the scenario in question could be the basis of a Mario game (and in spoilers to not take up as much of the screen).

Spoiler: Early game

Since Mario is never capable of preventing Peach from being kidnapped in the first place, she'll be in Kassyra's hands by the end of the prologue regardless of anything else that happens. At this point, regardless of what type of Mario game this is, Kassyra could easily crush or kidnap Mario and Luigi if she wanted to, so the question is whether she does or not. Since Mario definitely going to try putting up a fight, Kas will likely develop a similar interest in him that she does for the future Champion of Hawkethorne and thus won't capture or defeat him yet for the same reason (ditto for Luigi if he tries to fight alongside him). So, the most likely way this ends is that Kas kidnaps Peach, leaving Mario and possibly Luigi to try and stop her.

After that, Kassyra will try to do the same thing she did in CoC2; corrupt the leaders of regions near Toad Town while building a portal to Mareth for her dragon-generals to come through and help her. The Mushroom Kingdom is much more technologically advanced than Savarra, so the latter is easily attainable, while the former (if successful; I'll assume 'yes') will form the first few levels Mario & co. must overcome, including bosses. These won't be too hard for the heroes to deal with, as they'll be standard Mario fare with a 'corrupt theme', for lack of a better term.

Spoiler: Mid-game

This will also give her time to do what she wishes with Peach, and I doubt she's going to be content with locking her up in a dungeon somewhere (especially since she currently has no dungeon to lock her up in); more likely, she's going to try corrupting her as well. As the purest character in the entire Mario franchise, Peach has a greater ability to resist Kas's corruption than anyone else, but long-term I still rate her chances of demonification at 100% if she doesn't escape her clutches somehow. Best case scenario, she holds out long enough for Mario & co. to have their first post-tutorial encounter with Kas while she tries to activate her portal (at about the mid-game?). How this goes down depends on what kind of Mario game this is:

Spoiler: Mainline Platformer

Mario will have to 'beat' Kas somehow in order to rescue Peach; while she's never properly rescued until the end of any platformers she's not a story-mode playable character in, I'll be nice and say that if Mario 'beats' Kas, she'll fall back enough that he can and will rescue Peach. As for actually 'beating' her, Mario's standard moves will be useless against Kas unless she's stunned, as she'll either just fly out of reach or attack Mario if he gets too close. With Kas being as smart as she is, I don't see Mario being able to use the environment or any of his current power-ups to stun or damage her. Without a game-specific mechanic or new power-up Kas can't counter, Mario is probably going to lose hard. Even if that loss isn't a Game Over, the situation won't change for the final boss battle against Kas, rendering Mario a non-issue for her.

Spoiler: Any kind of RPG

Mario & co. stand a much better chance of beating Kassyra conventionally, as by this point they should have about half of all their end-game moveset (and companions, if this is a classic Paper Mario) and landing hits on her won't be as much of an issue due to game mechanics. This likely goes down the same way as her hostile encounter in the Winter City; Team Mario probably loses without a Game Over and on the off chance they win, they rescue Peach and Kas calls them cheaters. Alternatively, Peach might escape in the confusion of the battle if she hasn't done so already. Either way, the plot continues.

Regardless of what happens, Kas calls through her dragon-generals. There's no way for her to get distracted like she does if the Champion 'romances' her, since Mario would never have sex with her, so the only way for something to go wrong with is if this is a classic Paper Mario game and Peach somehow sabotaged the portal without Kas realising it. And if 'something goes wrong' means 'summons a Wraith instead', then everyone's screwed since none of them can handle Wraiths. So let's assume everything goes off fine and Mario & co. escape. If Peach is still in Kas's clutches, demonification is pretty much guaranteed to happen; otherwise, she'll either join Mario or stay somewhere relatively safe. Then, Mario & co. will continue what they were doing before (only now it's more difficult for them) until they reach Kas again as the final boss. They'll probably fight at least one dragon-general along the way.

Spoiler: Late game

At some point, Kassyra and Bowser are going to find out about one another. Bowser won't like that Kas kidnapped Peach (that's his job) (this goes double if she's a demon by now), and Kas likely won't think much of a self-proclaimed king of evil, so a showdown is inevitable. If Bowser swarms Kas with Magikoopas, Bullet/Banzai Bills and/or airships, he actually stands a decent chance of winning this (especially if she hasn't got her dragon-generals yet), but if he lets his anger get the better of him and challenges Kas one-on-one (which he likely will), she'll almost certainly win due to her flight and his lack of good ranged options. At this point, Bowser will either escape and join forces with Mario later on, or become Kas's captive and eventually get demonified; either way, Kas will probably take Bowser's Castle as her stronghold.

At the end of the game, Mario & co. go to Bowser's (now Kassyra's) Castle for the final boss. If this is an RPG, they'll have all (or almost all) of the moves and companions in the game. How this goes down will determine the ultimate fate of the Mushroom Kingdom (and by extension the rest of the planet). As before, platformer!Mario is probably going to lose, but RPG!Mario stands a much better chance.

Spoiler: Kassyra Wins

With no-one left to stop her, she eventually corrupts the entire Mushroom Planet. If she discovers interstellar travel, she may turn her sights spaceward, but then Rosalina would become an issue. If Kas manages to steal the Power Stars like Bowser did in Super Mario Galaxy 1, then chances are she'll eventually corrupt the entire universe or die of old age trying; otherwise, Rosalina will either beat her down conventionally (if that's possible) or hard-reset the universe again to undo everything she did.

Spoiler: Mario Wins

Kassyra and her dragon-generals are either killed or sent back to Mareth with no way of returning (for now). Unlike other Mario games where the large-scale problems are solved by the conclusion, the corruption Kas has managed to spread by this point still remains, and the heroes will have to go on a protracted campaign to root it out (or at least stop it from spreading further).
It's even possible Peach and/or Bowser are demons; if no way of reversing demonification is found, then either of them being demons means the status quo will never again be obtainable. Bowser already acted quite corrupted, so demon!Bowser will keep doing what he was always doing, only with even fewer inhibitions; this may eventually result in Peach becoming a demon if she isn't one already. As for what demon!Peach would do... I'm not sure. High corruption amplifies the drive to pursue one's goals without normal inhibitions, but Peach seems too nice to ever do anything bad (even when she's playable, she's only fighting to save something). Maybe she'd be a demon who's firmly on the side of good?

I spent way too long composing this (I started when there were no responses to this thread, which means I've been at it for at least 4 hours). I'd like to do the same for if Kassyra found herself in the UGC during the 14th Planet Rush, but I need to go to sleep soon so I'll do it later if I remember.

 

[Furiae]

prompt 3 just feels like a convoluted way to say "I want fuckable Bowsette in this game," which is fair, own that shit.

 

[Libelous]

why

 

[HeroicSpirit]

It has come to a point where I can tell that a thread was created by HeroicSpirit by its title alone: it always covers Tumblr-esque fandoms XD

Okay, fine, you want something else? Here you go....

4. Rebirth: Sitting upon his throne in the fortress Blister Hill, Lord Holy Phoenix was greeted by a Holy Servant, run ragged. He came with a message of a most wicked agent of Narko, vile beyond all others, appearing in the quarry of Rebirth. She had slain many paladins, allowing the slaves to make an escape in the ensuing chaos. Without hesitation, the Holy Lord Phoenix sent out a massive bounty upon her head...

5. Victory Bay, Kronus: Kassyrra exits its the portal on to the desolate war torn streets of the Imperial City. It is only moments later that she is attacked, as Imperial Guardsmen try to flank her while Chimera transports bearing reinforcements arrive. Deciding to not stay around, she flies up and away from this place, knowing that the only thing she can do is call in the dragon generals...

6. The Unseen University, Ankh Morpork: As Mustrum Ridcully fiddled with his crossbow, a portal opened directly into his office. Snapping to attention, he loaded a bolt and, reacting quickly, fired it at whatever came through. Unfortunately for him, it missed, and now he was face to face with a tall and very well-endowed demoness. However, he decides to ignore her for the present moment, as he reloads his hunting crossbow. After all, he has more important matters to attend to...

 

[Paradox01]

Nope. Still nothing.

 

[Libelous]

yeah, no, just no

 

[Kesil]

Nope. Still nothing.

...and still assuming eveyone else will know what they're referring to. Myself, I only know of the third one because I've read Discworld books, and I don't think it (or any other Discworld branch, for that matter) fits CoC 2 at all.

 

[HeroicSpirit]

Okay, fine, I’ll stick to things that might actually appeal to people here:

7. Stormwind City: (Since I know nothing about the Warcraft setting beyond some basic details, I’ll just use the wiki and figure out from there) King Anduin Wrynn looks over his glorious city; it was a bastion of humanity, withstanding the tides of war that had for millennia plagued the land. However, as he watched on, he then saw a portal tear open in the main plaza, slicing open a hole in reality itself. Out from it flew the wicked demoness, causing panic as merchants fled and mothers hid their children. Without a moment to lose, he called his guards to battle; he would not let the city fall, no matter what.

 

[HeroicSpirit]

...and still assuming eveyone else will know what they're refering to. Myself, I only know of the third one because I've read Discworld books, and I don't think it fits CoC 2 at all, in any of its branches.

Sorry, I guess I’m a bit of a dumb bitch who doesn’t have any idea of what other people’s interests are. Probably because of my autistic brain.

I’m not a mentally well-adjusted person and I also have some obscure interests. Sorry if I got snappy with that last one.

 

[Paradox01]

Nobody cares whether your tastes are mainstream or niche (though in your case, the word "niche" doesn't even begin to cover it), it's when you expect everyone else to know what the hell you're on about that gets annoying. It also might help (everyone) if you keep topics like this to the General Bullshit forum.

 

[HeroicSpirit]

Nobody cares whether your tastes are mainstream or niche (though in your case, the word "niche" doesn't even begin to cover it), it's when you expect everyone else to know what the hell you're on about that gets annoying. It also might help (everyone) if you keep topics like this to the General Bullshit forum.

Okay, I will.

I suppose you hate my visual novel thread then? I link to all of the things I’m looking at in case you haven’t heard of them already. I’m primarily trying to present games that are different from what most people here play, so I doubt anything I posted would interest you. Still, might be a good learning experience.

 

[Paradox01]

I suppose you hate my visual novel thread then?

I don't hate it, I don't like it. It doesn't interest me in the least but that's fine; at least in that thread you're presenting a bunch of stuff that interests you in a forum folks can ignore and inviting people to check it out.

This type of thread, however, is presented differently. It's the digital version of walking into a tabletop gaming store that specializes in, say, Flames of War and other historical wargames and shouting an invitation to play Vampire: The Masquerade.

 

[Savin]

prompt 3 just feels like a convoluted way to say "I want fuckable Bowsette in this game," which is fair, own that shit.

I totally just told Adj to give me wide-gorl Bowsette as my latest TiTS char, and he did not disappoint.

 

[TheShepard256]

I'd like to do the same for if Kassyra found herself in the UGC during the 14th Planet Rush

Now that I think about it, there are too many unknowns concerning how Marethian magic would interact with TiTS's complete lack of magic for me to make any reasonable guesses or assumptions as to how things would play out. While I have considered how a TiTS-CoC2 crossover could work, those considerations were heavily influenced by how I wanted the plot to progress. It would essentially be fan-fiction rather than the 'serious' theory-crafting this thread was intended for.

 

[Paradox01]

It would essentially be fan-fiction rather than the 'serious' theory-crafting this thread was intended for.

I'm so glad you put the word "serious" in quotes. But at least a TiTS/CoC2 crossover would be something worth starting a new thread in order to discuss...

 

[cobra]

I have never engaged with any of these media, so I'll take a pass on that :X

You NEVER played OG "Super Mario Bros"?!

EDIT:

The joke was that i had so very little clue about Mario Bros i didn't know that the OG wasn't part of the name. So yeah, thanks dad.

Guess I should have added proper apostrophe, happy?

 

[Paradox01]

"OG" = "Original Gangster" = "the original" of anything.

 

[Paradox01]

The joke was that i had so very little clue about Mario Bros i didn't know that the OG wasn't part of the name. So yeah, thanks dad.

The joke was so bad it sounds like it should have come from your first intro to Mario Brothers...



...you joey.

 

[Paradox01]

@HeroicSpirit, if it makes you feel any better, I understand more of your esoteric references than I do in the majority of the nonsensical posts in the FenChat Discord.

So you've got that going for you.

 

[Furiae]

What was worse, the SMB movie, or the Ron Jeremy porn based on it? I've actually only sat through the latter

Now that I think about it, there are too many unknowns concerning how Marethian magic would interact with TiTS's complete lack of magic for me to make any reasonable guesses or assumptions as to how things would play out.

Forcing magic into a world without it? My mind always turns to the Drakengard/NieR answer to that....horrific radiation poisoning that slowly and painfully wipes out all sentient life. Kind of a boner killer.

 

[Savin]

You NEVER played OG Super Mario Bros?!

Literally never. Aside from Fire Emblem I don't really engage with any of Nintendo's IPs.

 

[TheShepard256]

Forcing magic into a world without it? My mind always turns to the Drakengard/NieR answer to that....horrific radiation poisoning that slowly and painfully wipes out all sentient life. Kind of a boner killer.

Given the highly sexual nature of both TiTS and CoC2, I'm confident in saying that nothing like that would happen.

 

[Furiae]

Not sure I get the logic. It's not like DrakeNier doesn't fuck. D3 was literally about killing bosses and stealing their fucktoys. Half the human protagonists hooked. The first game would be banned from patreon. Didn't save Japan when the giant pregnant lady teleported in

On the brighter side, it did give us the greatest (only?) mainstream rpg futa character.

Spoiler: Kainé is worth extinction tbh

 

[TheShepard256]

Not sure I get the logic. It's not like DrakeNier doesn't fuck. D3 was literally about killing bosses and stealing their fucktoys. Half the human protagonists hooked. The first game would be banned from patreon. Didn't save Japan when the giant pregnant lady teleported in

What I meant was that the highly violent nature common to mainstream media is mostly replaced in TiTS and CoC2 by a highly sexual nature. While violence exists in these games, it takes more of a back seat compared to other settings, particularly when it comes to killing people* and large-scale/"end-of-the-world" threats`. Even when it does happen, it's typically not horrifically slow and painful. As such, "horrific radiation poisoning that slowly and painfully wipes out all sentient life" would be incredibly out-of-place in both settings.
*Killing (especially when done by the protagonists or antagonists) rarely occurs in both games, while it's common in other media.
`TiTS has had two such threats in its backstory (which took place over 2600 years apart) and CoC2 has had one (the Godswar). As for currently-occurring threats, TiTS has none and CoC2's isn't going to be fatal for most people.