I'd like to make some suggestions

[BigRedBedHead]

I feel like some of the characters in the game have unfinished sprites (or whatever you call them).  For example, 'Cheshire' is one of my favorite settings to run because I love that style but when it comes to certain situations in the game, a 'Cheshire' version isn't available.  That's kind of sad to see.  I'd love to see a list of reasons as to why this happens.  I'm not upset at anything, just intrigued.

 

[The Observer]

Artists are not art factories.


That's all the reason you need.

 

[BigRedBedHead]

I wasn't trying to be rude, I just wanted to understand the reason why it wasn't done like a project.  It seems as though it was done by submission and I feel like if each artist took it as a job, it could be more complete.  Maybe I'm a bit naive, sorry.

 

[Ormael]

Current artist that drawn busts (that how they call sprites in TiTS) is Shou. Cheshire was resident artist in past but then RL made her quite that position to be succeded by Shou. So one sure thing to see more of Ches busts is go to her page and commision them (which would ofc mean one need pay some for getting them).

 

[MESeele]

I wasn't trying to be rude, I just wanted to understand the reason why it wasn't done like a project.  It seems as though it was done by submission and I feel like if each artist took it as a job, it could be more complete.  Maybe I'm a bit naive, sorry.

You are naive. Art; like any job, costs money. You seem to think it's a given that every artist should provide a complete set of busts, and that it should be a one time fee for this set, called a "project". You are wrong. The reason it's not a "project" btw, is because this project does not end. You can't possibly believe that every artist should sit on standby for new characters to be written, at no extra cost.


But I have a solution for you. You want something from someone that you can't do yourself? Pay for it.

 

[Savin]

Yeah... having every artist do every character is well outside our budget, and even then, there's constantly new characters who need at least one bust -- they take priority over redoing old busts someone else's done.

 

[BigRedBedHead]

I was just asking a question.  :'(  I don't understand why everyone is so mean...

 

[Noob Salad]

Because they're jaded as fuck. Especially MESeele. I mean seriously; he wasn't informed and just wanted to know why. Very few people actually come to this forum and say "Hey I think you should do this for me without paying"


Anyway, even if Fencrew had infinite money, it'd be extremely unlikely for a singular artist to put in the time and effort to do all the busts on a routine basis. Then again, with infinite money I suppose they could just legally contract a group and have work redone as much as needed.

 

[MESeele]

Because they're jaded as fuck.

You put such a negative light on it...but yes, in a way.


Anyone whose experience involves being commissioned simply has dealt with enough people of this mindset to get their grumble on. Some are merely naive and don't bother thinking, and some know all too well what they're doing.


All too often you encounter those who feel entitled to extra work, or feel they can pay you in exposure bucks, or make that stupid fucking joke about how they shouldn't have to pay you because you're a freelancer and not a "paidlancer", with no knowledge of where that term actually originates.


You wouldn't pay a doctor to look at that weird wart, and then expect them to fix everything else for free, would you? You wouldn't go to A&W and ask for a free burger in exchange for telling your friends the food is good if they ask you. You wouldn't even consider it.


Yet the art industry deals with this all the fucking time.


Multiple people answered TC. Not overly kindly, not overly unkindly. But the result is as expected. Either indigence or a victim complex.


Edit: Err...yeah... Just read Noob's edit and I did perhaps come off a bit too harshly. But I stand by what I said. Idol curiosity or not, it could have been remedied with 5 minutes of thinking about it. This is not something you should need to be informed of. It should be obvious... However, there is a chance TC is 18+ while still being in school, in which case my bad.

 

[Ormael]

Anyway, even if Fencrew had infinite money, it'd be extremely unlikely for a singular artist to put in the time and effort to do all the busts on a routine basis. Then again, with infinite money I suppose they could just legally contract a group and have work redone as much as needed.

For Shou sanity I hope Fencrew never got this infinity cash to pay for her work. Or she would explode from drawning all those arts for game in almost no time :/

I was just asking a question.  :'(  I don't understand why everyone is so mean...

Some of prople here replied in civil and far from been mean way. When you would hang around more (assuming you not already long time lurker than come out finaly) you will get used to those few cranky peole here


So stay open minded and not see all posting here people as bloodthirsty monsters.

 

[AnonRobot]

I personally see the art as extras. They either there for eye candy or not; I have yet to try any (at all, so I might give it a go). The text is where the main story/plot is at. I won't be surprised, however, if they get more people to work on art to make game more 'complete' once the finish line draws near. Basically, I think a game like TiTS can easily be 100% complete with no art at all.

 

[Nik_van_Rijn]

I personally see the art as extras. They either there for eye candy or not; I have yet to try any (at all, so I might give it a go). The text is where the main story/plot is at. I won't be surprised, however, if they get more people to work on art to make game more 'complete' once the finish line draws near. Basically, I think a game like TiTS can easily be 100% complete with no art at all.

You must be much better at visualization that a scrub like me, because for a whole bunch of characters the visual aid those busts provide was the only way to really get a grasp on how they look. Lane and Dr. Lash are the main offenders, with Queen of the Deep coming close second. Then there are characters like Shade and Lieve that have busts which, while being at odds with the in-game description, make those characters a lot more sexy in my eyes.

 

[Noob Salad]

the only way to really get a grasp on how they look

Thank you! Even in CoC there was fan art for like every character, so I just relied on that. The only time my imagination trumped all is when I envisioned my own PC, in which case the writing would be that much better.

 

[AnonRobot]

You must be much better at visualization that a scrub like me, because for a whole bunch of characters the visual aid those busts provide was the only way to really get a grasp on how they look. Lane and Dr. Lash are the main offenders, with Queen of the Deep coming close second. Then there are characters like Shade and Lieve that have busts which, while being at odds with the in-game description, make those characters a lot more sexy in my eyes.

Haha you overestimate me. I read it like how I do a book. I much prefer visuals also, but been refraining mainly because there is not a complete set of them, and because it is so limited the picture may not accurate portray what is said in the description. If, when they can allocate time and manpower into the arts, I'd very much look forward to it also.

 

[Etis]

You must be much better at visualization that a scrub like me, because for a whole bunch of characters the visual aid those busts provide was the only way to really get a grasp on how they look. Lane and Dr. Lash are the main offenders, with Queen of the Deep coming close second. Then there are characters like Shade and Lieve that have busts which, while being at odds with the in-game description, make those characters a lot more sexy in my eyes.

Actually, it's better to NOT rely on currently used busts in actual visualisation, unless you are fan of hyper stuff. Their assets are very much exaggerated when compared to descriptions, up to the straight caricature. As one who prefers less... voluminous things, I prefer not to pay much attention to them.

 

[Kesil]

You wouldn't pay a doctor to look at that weird wart, and then expect them to fix everything else for free, would you?

I'm thankful free health care is a thing where I live, but I also know things can get very stressful for those workers.


On topic now, I kinda enjoy that "bits and pieces" feel our Harpy Princess typed about, especially now that one can mix-and match them regardless of who created them. I don't know about the rest of players, but finding out which artist I prefer has become part of the adventure. Then there's that issue about busts giving you visual cues... or ruining your mental image of this or that character. There's a reason why I valued those old school CoC sprites, you know!

 

[The Observer]

I was just asking a question.  :'(  I don't understand why everyone is so mean...

Because as MESeele put it, if you put a little thought into the way the game is made and what's involved, the problems should be apparent immediately.


Ask a loaded question, get a loaded answer. Example: "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

 

[Trogdor]

I feel like some of the characters in the game have unfinished sprites (or whatever you call them).  For example, 'Cheshire' is one of my favorite settings to run because I love that style but when it comes to certain situations in the game, a 'Cheshire' version isn't available.  That's kind of sad to see.  I'd love to see a list of reasons as to why this happens.  I'm not upset at anything, just intrigued.

I was just asking a question.  :'(  I don't understand why everyone is so mean...

Probably because calling someone's art 'unfinished' comes across as a bit rude/entitled... >_>

 

[Nik_van_Rijn]

Actually, it's better to NOT rely on currently used busts in actual visualisation, unless you are fan of hyper stuff. Their assets are very much exaggerated when compared to descriptions, up to the straight caricature. As one who prefers less... voluminous things, I prefer not to pay much attention to them.

Well, busts for the characters that don't have extremely large assets usually successfully reflect that fact, and for characters like Kiro, Emmy, or Millie a couple of extra inches and/or cup sizes won't change much. If you really don't like hyper you won't be banging them.

On topic now, I kinda enjoy that "bits and pieces" feel our Harpy Princess typed about, especially now that one can mix-and match them regardless of who created them. I don't know about the rest of players, but finding out which artist I prefer has become part of the adventure. Then there's that issue about busts giving you visual cues... or ruining your mental image of this or that character. There's a reason why I valued those old school CoC sprites, you know!

On top of providing a diverse choice of styles for players to choose from, busts from different artists often complement each-other, helping to convey the whole range of that characters' aspects, or just set the right mood. Like how Sera's portraits cover everything from imperious scary deamon to chill punk chick; or how Cheshire's versions of Embry busts nails her outfits while Shou's convey the 'adorkable lanky monkey-girl' a bit better IMO.


Having sprite art for all the characters would be a cool feature to have at some point.

Probably because calling the someone's art 'unfinished' comes across as a bit rude/entitled... >_>

I don't think that OP was dissing Gats' busts, but if they were n that's surely worth some minor internet paddling.

 

[Etis]

Well, busts for the characters that don't have extremely large assets usually successfully reflect that fact

I'm struggling to remember one example.

 

[Trogdor]

I'm struggling to remember one example.

Liliana?

 

[Etis]

Liliana?

Regarding to game description, she has A-cups. And image... That's A-cups? They are decent C's.

 

[Trogdor]

Regarding to game description, she has A-cups. And image... That's A-cups? They are decent C's.

*squints*


If you say so. They look pretty small, to me.

 

[Etis]

*squints*


If you say so. They look pretty small, to me.

Here, I've brough a magnifier :smugdog:

 

[Nik_van_Rijn]

I'm struggling to remember one example.

Embry (Shou's version), ManicPaint's Lieve, Ketokoras, Vanae Maidens, Lapinara, Raskvel gals (including Shekka).


Sure some of them are a tinsy bit bigger than their description would suggest, but they don't 'ruin the character' and sure as hell aren't hyper.

Lilianna's bust has much larger breasts than A, heh. Probably big B's or small/mid C's.


The difference between real-world bust/bra sizes is actually quite slight.

True, but the game uses porn sizes instead, and on top of that the image is supposed to be resized and fit into a tiny window (put inside another tiny window in case of mobile devices), so there is not much room for nuance.

 

[Etis]

Embry (Shou's version), ManicPaint's Lieve, Ketokoras, Vanae Maidens, Lapinara, Raskvel gals (including Shekka).


Sure some of them are a tinsy bit bigger than their description would suggest, but they don't 'ruin the character' and sure as hell aren't hyper.

Embry is fine on totally flat version. On other she should have A/C cups, but they are definitely larger. Not to hyper state, yes.


Maniacpaint is not a state artist and have only that one image.


Kerokoras are straightforwardly flat. It takes an extra effort to make something totally absent hyper.


Vanae maidens are described as having small A-cups. That's on image is at least C-cups.


Lapinaras are flat again. And we have no nude image.


Raskvel female have no high-res, but breasts are too well-rounded to be A-cups.

You know, I've never really appreciated how great Lilianna's boobs are. She has like... perfect lil' boobs. ^_^

Yes, definitely not bad. But that's not what we have in description.

 

[Ormael]

All about many busts been too big compared to desc but doesn;t few of them that on pic are kinda smaller than desc say?


But that I think cuz it was generic pic used for all similar characters so another one even if said that got much more weight here and there still got generic one.

 

[Nik_van_Rijn]

You know, I've never really appreciated how great Lilianna's boobs are. She has like... perfect lil' boobs. ^_^

They sure are delicious-looking. We really need to see more of Liliana, or at least the conclusion to her and leithan doctor's story.


Anyone knows what Gardeford is doing nowadays and if he accepts commissions?


@Etis all of size categories got redefined in the TiTS futuristic setting due to the shift in average values. If you can try to justify incest and ephebophilia using the 'it's the future' argument, you can surely do that for bigger boobs.

 

[Etis]

@Etis all of size categories got redefined in the TiTS futuristic setting due to the shift in average values. If you can try to justify incest and ephebophilia using the 'it's the future' argument, you can surely do that for bigger boobs.

There are just two problems than. Descriptions like "boobs that almost vanish under anything thicker than spandex" would not fit that new sizes and there still should be some names for smaller sizes.

 

[Ormael]

There are just two problems than. Descriptions like "boobs that almost vanish under anything thicker than spandex" would not fit that new sizes and there still should be some names for smaller sizes.

That sex game and but that virtue we can't expect it to follow reality ESPECIALY when it come to sex bits of npc's, pc, anyone else. Same I could say...pick on that how much milk/cum can character produce after taking enough tf items or other events that makes them liek that. Busts been with overbusty characters could be seen as sideeffects of us playing porn game.