Gwyn's kids

GezinFen

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So Gwyn's first litter is definitely Garth's, right? I'm stating the obvious according to the SC, but.. wow..

No wonder Garth told off anyone saying that they were Garret's.
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Tarnakus

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So Gwyn's first litter is definitely Garth's, right?
No? It was some rando guy who ran away before speaking to Garth.
The main rumor circulating in Hawkethrone is that it was Garth, so I'm even more confused about where you got the idea that Garth blamed Garret.
Besides that, Gweyr would kill him.
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GezinFen

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No? Gweyr would kill him. It was some rando guy that run away before speaking to Garth. The main rumor circulating in Hawkethrone is that it was Garth so I'm even more confuse from where you got that Garth blamed Garret.
The rumor in Hawkethorne is that Garret did the deed, actually.
And.. I didn't say Garth blamed Garret for it at all? I said the exact opposite.
My exact words were "No wonder Garth told off anyone saying that they were Garret's."
Garth was dispelling afformentioned rumor--everyone knows that. What made you infer that I was claiming otherwise?

I know it's a stretch; you gotta connect the dots a little bit.
Gywn is known for lusting after her dad in these forums.

We've got a whole scene where Gwyn requests that PC roleplays as her dad while they have sex.
Y'know? The scene you can only access as a lupine? Alongside the fact that PC smells "the same" as Garth, quoting her.
Read the scene, if you haven't. Whether she's referring to him in reality or in fantasy, Garth is the only person she explicitly refers to as "Daddy," emphasizing the capital D.

Another thing to mention is that Garth--and a lot of other NPCs-- often will lie, or not tell the full truth. Which leads to a lot of the quests and content of the game--cause we're trying to find out.

..And Garth's got a couple bastards around the place, too, that he's abandoned or isn't taking responsibility for.
Senja.. Solveig.. maybe some others? But we know he's not keeping it in his pants.

This isn't an infallible theory, especially considering the keen sense of smell the Lupines have in CoC2 (as mentioned by Gweyr in your post,)
but their family's pretty fucked up, maybe in more ways than one.
 

Ace Hangman

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So Gwyn's first litter is definitely Garth's, right? I'm stating the obvious according to the SC, but.. wow..
Almost definitely not. There is a rumor about it, but all the things said by other people involved make it pretty clear it was a random lupine. Gwyn says he ran off, and Garth says he ran off, and Gweyr implies that she tracked down and killed him after she met Garth and heard about what happened. The rumors are just that, rumors, while it's deviously perverse to imagine (if that gets your horny, and if it does, you can become a lupine and roleplay it with her), the actual evidence is just that some guy hit-it-and-quit it (and Gweyr tracked him down and beat him).
 

GezinFen

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Almost definitely not. There is a rumor about it, but all the things said by other people involved make it pretty clear it was a random lupine. Gwyn says he ran off, and Garth says he ran off, and Gweyr implies that she tracked down and killed him after she met Garth and heard about what happened. The rumors are just that, rumors, while it's deviously perverse to imagine (if that gets your horny, and if it does, you can become a lupine and roleplay it with her), the actual evidence is just that some guy hit-it-and-quit it (and Gweyr tracked him down and beat him).
Yeah.. guess I'll stick with what I know instead of crackpot theorizing, but it was wacky thought to entertain for a bit
 

Ace Hangman

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Crackpot theorizing is fun. I had forgotten about when Gweyr hinted at the guy's fate and was wondering if he might show up again later. Like maybe everyone just thought he ran off, but he's really a good guy... and was caught in the blizzard, and captured, and finally escaped and came back... and now you've got kids... and it's a whole dramatic situation, because he did care...
But no... he was tracked down and bodied (allegedly).
 

Tarnakus

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What made you infer that I was claiming otherwise?
As you asked - because you propose a theory and immediately backed it up with a screenshot that disproves it. Gwyn literally says the father of her children ran away. Why assume she’s lying there? Saying “NPCs sometimes lie” is the same ballpark as “NPCs sometimes tell the truth” - it proves nothing either way. Your initial post was chaotic and hard to follow, and as I said, it confused me.
Y'know? The scene you can only access as a lupine? Alongside the fact that PC smells "the same" as Garth, quoting her.
Read the scene, if you haven't.
I think my profile picture makes it obvious which kind of character I play. The condescending tone wasn’t needed. I read that scene very differently: to me it’s clear proof Garth never touched her the way she wanted - she’s projecting those feelings onto the Champion as a substitute.
..And Garth's got a couple bastards around the place, too, that he's abandoned or isn't taking responsibility for.
Senja.. Solveig.. maybe some others? But we know he's not keeping it in his pants.
About Garth’s supposed “trail of bastards” - that doesn’t really hold up. He didn’t even know about Solveig, so it’s hard to take responsibility for something you don’t know exists. As for Senja, she’s with Evergreen, who takes in all children (including the PC’s), so again, there isn’t much he could do there.

On top of that, Gweyr literally establishes that aside from those two cases, nothing else happened. So trying to use “he’s got kids everywhere” as evidence doesn’t line up with what the game itself tells us. Also look on mine previous screenshot Gweyr praises his 20 years of loyalty...
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I’m not against theorizing or having headcanons. But if you’re going to go against what’s explicitly established in the text, it takes more than “connecting dots” or a bit of a stretch. Otherwise it stops being theory and just ends up contradicting canon.
 
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