Exhibitionism management

[irioth]

With the latest changes to exhibitionism, how is one supposed to keep the stat maximized all the time? I've noticed even wearing clothing that leaves one's breasts and genitals fully exposed (goo armor + underbust corset + fishnet briefs) is not enough to prevent gradual degradation of the stat.

 

[Noob Salad]

You can't prevent gradual degradation. But it shouldn't be falling fast enough that triggering scenes as normal doesn't push it back up.

 

[RanmaChan]

You would think that going around naked would at least keep you at your current exhibitionist level, even if it stops it's growth after a certain time.

 

[EmperorG]

I think the reason it was made this way is that the way certain scenes are written wouldn't make sense if the PC is a complete newb to the way of the exhibitionist. In that they would lack the confidence experience in constantly showing your self off would require to be able to force themselves to do embarrassing things in public.

Of course that doesn't make any sense since it's not like a lot of scenes make you look like a total virgin at sex unless your libido stat is high enough, or something similar to the interaction between exhibitionism score and exhibition scenes.

Could also be that the plan was that exhibition stat would make you resilient to lust raising attacks if you were ever naked or something.

 

[Noob Salad]

Misty, Exhibitionism has a cap of 100 and drops by like 0.5 every 24 hours, lol. And that's assuming you don't get naked or nearly naked once, AND don't have sex in public or sort of kind of in front of others once. Masturbating in public counts too of course, and even battle loss might count.

It's made the way it is more so like you can start off at 0, and work your way up, getting different variation blurbs as you progress. It is extremely hard to lose, even if you just stay in your ship and sleep all day, and decently easy to gain.

 

[Lancer]

When I first started playing it took me several double takes and a bit of purposeful testing to make sure that the exhibition stat was going down on it's own, and that I wasn't just seeing things. No other stat in CoC or TiTS does that.

 

[Jacques00]

I think the exhibitionism system was reworked recently where it included clothing with exposed body parts. This might have produced a bug in the latest public release of the game where it ignored the previous exception of going commando or braless with breasts would prevent exhibitionism from degrading daily. This should be fixed in the current backers release.

Exhibitionism score should raise when actively undergoing exhibitionist acts (sex in public). Flashing or walking around naked may also raise exhibitionism daily with the degree exhibitionism gained based on certain conditions:

• Has breasts and breasts are visible.
  
• Has genitals and/or testicles and crotch is visible.
• Asshole is visible.
  
• Is nude.

If only one of these are true and current exhibitionism is less than 20, exhibitiionism will raise by 1 per day. If two of these are true and current exhibitionism score is less than 33, exhibitionism will raise by 1 per day. If three of these are true and current exhibitionism score is less than 40, exhibitionism will raise by 1 per day. If four or more of these are true and current exhibitionism score is less than 50, exhibitionism is raised by 2 per day.

If Steele is fully covered up in layers of non-exposing/non-transparent clothes, the exhibitionism should degrade 0.5 points per day.

Transparent clothing flags have been added in the latest backers release and should affect exhibitionism similarly to how exposed clothing works. However, aside from the exhibitionism exception, transparent clothes should count as being "clothed" for normal cases.

 

[Xeivous]

I think what the others are expressing is that they don't want to feel like they have to micromanage the exhibitionsim stat after getting their Steele to where they want them to be, and preventing it from degrading by having to possibly go out of one's way to make sure one acts or dresses in an exhibitionistic manner feels like a chore to some.

 

[irioth]

I think the exhibitionism system was reworked recently where it included clothing with exposed body parts. This might have produced a bug in the latest public release of the game where it ignored the previous exception of going commando or braless with breasts would prevent exhibitionism from degrading daily. This should be fixed in the current backers release.

Exhibitionism score should raise when actively undergoing exhibitionist acts (sex in public). Flashing or walking around naked may also raise exhibitionism daily with the degree exhibitionism gained based on certain conditions:

• Has breasts and breasts are visible.
  
• Has genitals and/or testicles and crotch is visible.
• Asshole is visible.
  
• Is nude.

If two of these are true and current exhibitionism score is less than 33, exhibitionism will raise by 1. If three of these are true and current exhibitionism score is less than 40, exhibitionism will raise by 1. If four or more of these are true and current exhibitionism score is less than 50, exhibitionism is raised by 2.

If Steele is fully covered up in layers of non-exposing/non-transparent clothes, the exhibitionism should degrade 0.5 points per day.

Transparent clothing flags have been added in the latest backers release and should affect exhibitionism similarly to how exposed clothing works. However, aside from the exhibitionism exception, transparent clothes should count as being "clothed" for normal cases.

Well, I'm currently using the latest (7.33) backers build and exposed clothing (goo armor, underbust corset, and fishnet briefs) does nothing to prevent my exhibitionism score from degrading daily. Annoyance about this unstoppable degradation is exactly what caused me to create this thread in the first place. So I suppose that exception is not working, and the bug has not been fixed, unless you were actually speaking of a future, yet-unreleased backers build.

 

[Noob Salad]

Are you sure that's exposed? Even if it's not it should only be degrading at 0.5 per day.

 

[irioth]

Are you sure that's exposed? Even if it's not it should only be degrading at 0.5 per day.

With older builds (my playing TiTs went on hiatus between late 2016 and a few days ago, so my previous reference is Oct. 2016 builds or so) my PC wore exposed clothing (underbust corset) all the time and her 100 exhibitionism score never degraded at all, to my relief. When I started playing with the recent builds and noticed an unwelcome daily degradation, I switched to wearing fishnet clothing (to my annoyance since it required giving up costant availability of hardlight-dildo panties) and daily degradation continued unabated, despite breasts, pussies, and ass being exposed. Even if it's only 0.5 per day, it is a significant annoyance since I have to be mindful of 'refilling' the exhibitionism score to maximum every few days. One more frequent management chore on top of keeping mimbranes sated, milking hyperactive breasts when they become too full, reducing anal heat when it gets excessive, and so on is really not welcome. I much prefer if this fetish would take care of itself with appropriate clothing, as it used to.

 

[Jacques00]

Well, I'm currently using the latest (7.33) backers build and exposed clothing (goo armor, underbust corset, and fishnet briefs) does nothing to prevent my exhibitionism score from degrading daily. Annoyance about this unstoppable degradation is exactly what caused me to create this thread in the first place. So I suppose that exception is not working, and the bug has not been fixed, unless you were actually speaking of a future, yet-unreleased backers build.

Try walking around without wearing the goo armor. It's most likely that the goo armor is covering everything--just because an undergarment exposes or reveals private parts, they actually have to be visible for the exhibitionism to count, otherwise it counts as being covered up (being kinkyly-dress under an outfit, sure, but it's still covered up). Walking around with the goo armor and only one or no undergarment should fulfill the exception for going commando/braless. Braless only counts if your character actually has breasts (A-cup or higher)! If this does not work, I'll need your .tits save file to verify what is going on.

The goo armor is currently a non-exposing outfit. Whenever I finish writing the scenes for exposing body parts with the goo armor and it is implemented in game, it should give the options to reveal body parts like some other outfits.

Hope this helps.

 

[Xeivous]

I think @irioth got confused because previously one could keep exhibition scores up as long as they went commando in some way.

 

[irioth]

Try walking around without wearing the goo armor. It's most likely that the goo armor is covering everything--just because an undergarment exposes or reveals private parts, they actually have to be visible for the exhibitionism to count, otherwise it counts as being covered up (being kinkyly-dress under an outfit, sure, but it's still covered up). Walking around with the goo armor and only one or no undergarment should fulfill the exception for going commando/braless. Braless only counts if your character actually has breasts (A-cup or higher)! If this does not work, I'll need your .tits save file to verify what is going on.

The goo armor is currently a non-exposing outfit. Whenever I finish writing the scenes for exposing body parts with the goo armor and it is implemented in game, it should give the options to reveal body parts like some other outfits.

Hope this helps.

Ok, found the problem at last. It is the goo armor, since walking around w/o it (not possible at Tavros. I didn't know they had more restrictive nudity laws than the other planets) stops the daily exhibitionism loss. I shall be most appreciative and thankful when those revealing options are implemented for Nova, hopefully soon.

 

[irioth]

I think @irioth got confused because previously one could keep exhibition scores up as long as they went commando in some way.

Yep. Previously the goo armor didn't count as an obstacle to exposure. It kind of made sense, since the goo armor is really skintight, and if one looks to Nova art, she is effectively a naked female. I'm actually doubtful if one is going braless and/or commando under it, the goo armor should count as coverage for the purpose of exhibitionism. If Steele looks more or less like Nova with the armor on, it effectively works as body paint. Exposed nipples/genitals are exposed nipples/genitals, even if the skintight armor just colors them grey. As much as I understand it, the purpose of the exposure options for the armor is going to be trading defense for sexiness.

 

[Jacques00]

I have implemented more nuance to the exhibitionism loss for the next release. If exhibitionism points is at 50 or higher, or if the character is a Ditz/Brute, the exhibitionism will not drop while wearing exposed clothing in both undergarment slots, otherwise, exhibitionism will drop 0.25 instead. Going commando or going fully covered up should performs like usual.

 

[Dragonspiderkitsune]

Mechanical reasons aside, what would actually make someone with actual exhibitionism fetish gradually lose it? What's the logic behind it? So you like showing your boobs in front of the public but after not doing so for a while you just decided hey that's not really a good idea? If anything it should be like if you have the fetish and you haven't exhibit your assets for a while, you'd have the urge to do so again.

 

[Jacques00]

From my interpretation, the exhibitionism score is basically how the character "feels" about exhibitionism as a form of habit. The higher the score, the more accepting the character is to showing off naked in public and the less they are willing to keep their clothes on. The exhibitionism loss is for feeling less comfortable when being naked or exposed in public and more comfortable being fully clothed.

Maybe there will be items/events to attain a permanent perk or temporary status effect where exhibitionism can be capped on either end--at current, it is just an ongoing stat the player can play with.

 

[eveoflife]

I think what the others are expressing is that they don't want to feel like they have to micromanage the exhibitionsim stat after getting their Steele to where they want them to be, and preventing it from degrading by having to possibly go out of one's way to make sure one acts or dresses in an exhibitionistic manner feels like a chore to some.

I would honestly love a option to lock things like exhibition and personality in place to prevent degrading/elevating.

 

[OnyxDrakkenblade]

I would honestly love a option to lock things like exhibition and personality in place to prevent degrading/elevating.

I wouldn't, I feel that there's already too much of the, "Get that awesome thing over there that comes with a drawback then eliminating the negative consequences of doing so.", stuff going on. I don't see ANY way of getting around that concept in preggo content in a game. But when you are CHOOSING to take on a burden then complain about the management of said burden I have no sympathy. If you like wearing clean clothes you damn well better know how to use a washing machine at least.

 

[eveoflife]

I wouldn't, I feel that there's already too much of the, "Get that awesome thing over there that comes with a drawback then eliminating the negative consequences of doing so.", stuff going on. I don't see ANY way of getting around that concept in preggo content in a game. But when you are CHOOSING to take on a burden then complain about the management of said burden I have no sympathy. If you like wearing clean clothes you damn well better know how to use a washing machine at least.

I say option, for those who want to put up with it. Also what consequences, our personality is so fickle that I could repair it by mean fucking a Zil or getting off a Nyrea. Exhibition is just as fickle. Like what @Dragonspiderkitsune said earlier, it makes little sense, and this option I've thrown out would accommodate both parties. The problem is "why" we're repairing it.

 

[OnyxDrakkenblade]

I say option, for those who want to put up with it. Also what consequences, our personality is so fickle that I could repair it by mean fucking a Zil or getting off a Nyrea. Exhibition is just as fickle. Like what @Dragonspiderkitsune said earlier, it makes little sense, and this option I've thrown out would accommodate both parties. The problem is "why" we're repairing it.

In the case of exhibitionism and this game "consequences" may not be a very appropriate word. However, several other things were mentioned, buttslut, hypermilky, and so on. All of which have very real consequences and exhibitionism is then brought up in a "straw that broke the camel's back" sort of mentality. When it is clear that all of the other consequences are creating a strain that makes the, reasonable in it's own space, exhibitionism seem like too much. THAT's what I mean.

 

[Gammerick]

Also I'm walking around naked on Tavros on the newest public build and the game's not stopping me.

 

[eveoflife]

In the case of exhibitionism and this game "consequences" may not be a very appropriate word. However, several other things were mentioned, buttslut, hypermilky, and so on. All of which have very real consequences and exhibitionism is then brought up in a "straw that broke the camel's back" sort of mentality. When it is clear that all of the other consequences are creating a strain that makes the, reasonable in it's own space, exhibitionism seem like too much. THAT's what I mean.

I can't understand ... this. You're comparing exhibition to things like Buttslut and Hypermilky?

 

[Charm]

Isn't there a collar that exudes a coating over the body of the PC that essentially leaves them naked? Whilst boosting exhibition score it essentially leaves you naked, coating your vital bits and bobblies in a flexible layer but still mostly leaving you nude? Skin tight and all, so you skirt nudity laws, yet fully open and nothing left to the imagination?

I hear too, it doubles as a condom and vaginal dam...handy that! Unless you are mega buff and rough, it's fekk all at defense, however it will skyrocket your exhibition score and keep it peaked when you are not battling the nasty beasties...

 

[NotYouNorI]

Isn't there a collar that exudes a coating over the body of the PC that essentially leaves them naked? Whilst boosting exhibition score it essentially leaves you naked, coating your vital bits and bobblies in a flexible layer but still mostly leaving you nude? Skin tight and all, so you skirt nudity laws, yet fully open and nothing left to the imagination?

I hear too, it doubles as a condom and vaginal dam...handy that! Unless you are mega buff and rough, it's fekk all at defense, however it will skyrocket your exhibition score and keep it peaked when you are not battling the nasty beasties...

The omni suit still counts as being naked while having high libido

 

[OnyxDrakkenblade]

I can't understand ... this. You're comparing exhibition to things like Buttslut and Hypermilky?

I'm not comparing them. Others have presented these other things as time sinks that when you put them together with the exhibitionism are too much to handle. I say, "You made your bed, sleep in it. Or rather obsessively maintain your panoply of consequences to lust-haze informed decisions.

The omni suit still counts as being naked while having high libido

Personally I think that anything that is in the top 20%(open for consideration of a better number) of sexiness boosts from clothing, should count as nudity when being considered for exhibitionism equations.

 

[eveoflife]

I'm not comparing them. Others have presented these other things as time sinks that when you put them together with the exhibitionism are too much to handle. I say, "You made your bed, sleep in it. Or rather obsessively maintain your panoply of consequences to lust-haze informed decisions.

... Putting them together is to much to handle? Still confused here ...

 

[OnyxDrakkenblade]

Yeah, apparently if you choose to do all of the things that require maintenance in the game, I believe mimbranes were mentioned as well, you get overwhelmed with all of the crap you have to do to keep it all from falling apart. I mean just Nuki Nutz and Honeypot would be enough to make me be all "Reroll time!" But apparently there are people who want that and to have a mimbrane on every possible place it can be (including feeding all of those monstrosities) then Buttslut, and on and on and on. I just dislike it when people whinge and whine about things that they set up for themselves. I have Honeypot on my build. . . don't hear me bitching about it.

 

[NotYouNorI]

Yeah, apparently if you choose to do all of the things that require maintenance in the game, I believe mimbranes were mentioned as well, you get overwhelmed with all of the crap you have to do to keep it all from falling apart. I mean just Nuki Nutz and Honeypot would be enough to make me be all "Reroll time!" But apparently there are people who want that and to have a mimbrane on every possible place it can be (including feeding all of those monstrosities) then Buttslut, and on and on and on. I just dislike it when people whinge and whine about things that they set up for themselves. I have Honeypot on my build. . . don't hear me bitching about it.

The only thing you mentioned here that can get tedious to maintain are the mimbranes. Everything else is trivial.