Emmy Quest Content Issue.

SorenMageofMareth

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So I'm looking to get with Emmata and came on too strong and have to get a space flower.  That you have to get from a Venus Pitcher..  Is there another way to get it? By say Mugging  them instead stead of having to trip into one of their pits? 

Really don't want to go into the pit. tried not my thing in the least.  And wasn't there a resolution about content gated other distinctly different content?
 

MESeele

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So I'm looking to get with Emmata and came on too strong and have to get a space flower.  That you have to get from a Venus Pitcher..  Is there another way to get it? By say Mugging  them instead stead of having to trip into one of their pits? 

Really don't want to go into the pit. tried not my thing in the least.  And wasn't there a resolution about content gated other distinctly different content?

Do you restart every time you lose a fight and get drawn into a scene that's not your thing? If not, you already have the means of dealing with this. So close your eyes, think happy thoughts, mash the next button, and get the flower.

OR you could have not harassed poor Emmy in the first place. You make it sound like you were forced into your current predicament by complaining about so called gates, but you hopped into this yourself.
 

SorenMageofMareth

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Do you restart every time you lose a fight and get drawn into a scene that's not your thing? If not, you already have the means of dealing with this. So close your eyes, think happy thoughts, mash the next button, and get the flower.

OR you could have not harassed poor Emmy in the first place. You make it sound like you were forced into your current predicament by complaining about so called gates, but you hopped into this yourself.

Accusatory assholishness much?

It beggars belief in the extreme to call that exceedingly mutual bit of flirting before she backed off ( and you also back off)  harrasment. 

And beyond that I wouldn't have posted if it actually was a fight of if after knowing you need a flower you could get one by passing a challenge related to the pitchers for which failure is getting the pit. 

You can win fights, and generally know even without the community when a fights hitting. 

But you flirt with while getting an extremely sexual seeming sale pitch and it's must hit the pitcher full stop. 

I mean there's alot things to go through for a nice girl who knows the true and wonderful value  of flaming implements of death and destruction but I think she'd agree that getting worked over by the mindfuck plants on distant world far from mother and kin is a teensy  bit much.  Especially if internal realism  ensued  and there were the actual better than even odd of them not letting you go. 
 

MESeele

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Really don't want to go into the pit. tried not my thing in the least.  And wasn't there a resolution about content gated other distinctly different content?

Sure, my reply could certainly be construed as jerkish. It wouldn't have been, if you didn't end off with some passive-aggressive whining.

And my point still stands. You admitted that you have no problem skipping a loss scene you don't like if it's a fight. How is this different? You made a choice. Choices have consequences; some are obvious, most are far-reaching and not immediately known. This is Shade and the badger all over again. Get over it.

You said you tried to get through the scene, but apparently became too morally indignant to press next a couple more times, and felt it better worth your while to complain on the internet for the developers to placate you. Why.
 

SorenMageofMareth

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Sure, my reply could certainly be construed as jerkish. It wouldn't have been, if you didn't end off with some passive-aggressive whining.

And my point still stands. You admitted that you have no problem skipping a loss scene you don't like if it's a fight. How is this different? You made a choice. Choices have consequences; some are obvious, most are far-reaching and not immediately known. This is Shade and the badger all over again. Get over it.

You said you tried to get through the scene, but apparently became too morally indignant to press next a couple more times, and felt it better worth your while to complain on the internet for the developers to placate you. Why.

Still really jerkish and accusatory, and putting words in my mouth, and bringing up an irrelevant topic with a mischaracterization of the of the issues people had in character with one (Badger) and assuming I had any issue after talking with Slutpuppy boss on the other about how Shade's realistic in character  concerns matter in a way that can be realistically derived with a closer look. 

Please actually pay attention to how I explicitly said it was different. This is not say dealing with rescuing Saendra with a distress signal that you can skip that leads to a fight with realistic fight consequences if you don't. 

Nor is it say Kiro  who's high cum  content, is gated by other high volume cum content, of a sufficient level of skill and the appropriate knowledge to save her anyway.    Only thing I've ever said with regards to that is if it would possible for that to be solved in a similar way to fixing the machine with appropriate and interested followers like Celise and that was as part of content discussion with ideas where the question of why can't you just call for help was really salient. 

Emmata's a nice girl with an energy weapons fetish, that deals with the concerns of the social isolation that happens when one changes one self to better express theirself, a shade of the transformation kink that I never really grokked until talking with her about her issue with her name.  She also dealt with contradiction between honest desires and internalized social stigma on sexual level that I felt really kinda highlighted identity issue. 

Her stuff and the mental control, domination, tentacle and pregnancy  of the venus pitchers are literal and figurative light-years and planets away from each other.     They seem almost as unrelated as Katherine and Scylla beyond the tenuous connection that one would normally be the victim of the other. Only in this case instead of respond with love kindness charity and milk  Emmy would be more likely to engage in deforestation with a Kiha Corp Salamander Rifle and Lava Saber.   They don't really mix. 

Morally indignant?  You assume a level aggression and anger not actually present.

Further this is a game, in development, requesting feedback, I kinda thought we were supposed to give it ya know.
 

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Further this is a game, in development, requesting feedback, I kinda thought we were supposed to give it ya know.

Don't waste your breath on this, nothing's gonna change. Writers have unprecedented reverence and their word might aswell be cosmic fucking truth.
 

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There are two ways to appease Emmy:

  • If your character comes on to her, she will ask for the flower. Once she asks for this, the flower can only be attained from a Venus pitcher on Mhen'ga.
  • If your character doesn't try to blatantly seduce her and comment about her instead, she will try to reject the comment. If she does this, then a day after the rejection, she will apologize by mail. After reading the message, visit her again and there will be a sexyfuntime event to complete the apology.
Either of these solutions will unlock her sex scenes. Additional content is yet to be implemented after this.
 

MissusEto

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So I'm looking to get with Emmata and came on too strong and have to get a space flower.  That you have to get from a Venus Pitcher..  Is there another way to get it? By say Mugging  them instead stead of having to trip into one of their pits? 

Really don't want to go into the pit. tried not my thing in the least.  And wasn't there a resolution about content gated other distinctly different content?

who's Emmata?  :eek:hdear:
 

SorenMageofMareth

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who's Emmata?  :eek:hdear:

Emmata aka Emmy is the Jackal Morph Ex Ausar of Myrellion Sexy, sensitive, boist and the best kind of futa Gun nut, the kind who'd nut with a gun.    Fiery death and destruction and thunderous wrath that might some day make speccing melee on a techie not stupid.   Maybe when they turn OverCharge into a Melee technique called Charge.   Or just make them both melee compatible  though that breaks the binary nature. Hn. I need to talk about this in that thread. 

But Emmata is the lady's proper name for all the issues she has attached to it and the slutpuppy rep which has given her trouble.  
 
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MissusEto

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Emmata aka Emmy is the Jackal Morph Ex Ausar of M'henga. Sexy, sensitive, boist and the best kind of futa Gun nut, the kind who'd nut with a gun.    Fiery death and destruction and thunderous wrath that might some day make speccing melee on a techie not stupid.   Maybe when they turn OverCharge into a Melee technique called Charge.   Or just make them both melee compatible  though that breaks the binary nature. Hn. I need to talk about this in that thread. 

But Emmata is the lady's proper name for all the issues she has attached to it and the slutpuppy rep which has given her trouble.  

? There are no Jackalmorphs on M'henga. There's one on Myrellion... who's can't tell an Orange Myr from a Normal Myr.
 

MissusEto

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Strongly disagree. I can't even figure out where did you get that idea.

the fact that she can't even tell a Morph from a native, the fact she thinks Orange Myrs are native even though you never see a Orange Myr in the whole game.
 

SorenMageofMareth

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? There are no Jackalmorphs on M'henga. There's one on Myrellion... who's can't tell an Orange Myr from a Normal Myr.

Dang. Typed that planet wrong. Edditting. 

the fact that she can't even tell a Morph from a native, the fact she thinks Orange Myrs are native even though you never see a Orange Myr in the whole game.

Or that she doesn't want to cut it close and it's entirely possible that a myr got into some stocks by sucking the right dick?   And besides if you talk to Juro about the pill something similar to organge myr does actually happen naturally through inbreeding and they're the ancestor species that Might well still exist in xome distant corner of the planet. 

And honestly blaming someone for not being able to tell a morph from a native well you can call them not a super genius but particularly mean when there's and embargo?   It's not like they're quite omnitool tagged yet.
 

Karretch

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And besides if you talk to Juro about the pill something similar to organge myr does actually happen naturally through inbreeding and they're the ancestor species that Might well still exist in xome distant corner of the planet. 
That... that's not how common ancestors work, especially in the case of porn-game hybridity. And the word you're looking for is inTERbreeding. 
 

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That is exactly how common ancestors work in the case of porn-game hybridity, in fact.  It is of course, absolutely nothing like how interbreeding or common ancestors work in reality, but it's one of those acceptable breaks from reality to give the whole affair any chance of affecting myr society in a useful manner.

Though I do hope it doesn't cause the spread of red myr venom, as I've said I find it kind of reprehensible.
 
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Karretch

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Hybrids =/= common ancestor, even in porn. The common ancestor wouldn't have been orange, wouldn't have had 4 breasts or venom. Else both those would have some historical presence, be it biologically or culturally, in the current myr.
 

Eva

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Emmata is the lady's proper name for all the issues she has attached to it and the slutpuppy rep which has given her trouble.  

Given that she specifically asks you to call her Emmy, I'd say Emmy is her 'proper' name. 
 

Karretch

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Given that she specifically asks you to call her Emmy, I'd say Emmy is her 'proper' name. 

Yeah, Emmata is her given name but just like transgendered people a given name isn't their name
 

MissusEto

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Yeah, Emmata is her given name but just like transgendered people a given name isn't their name

... Dense question. Can't Transgenders legally change their name? ( I mean, because people can legally change their surname...)
 
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Like her modded identity, Emmy takes her job seriously. She's not necessarily racist (at least not self-admittedly; she can very well be though, not surprising given the social-political landscape of Myrellion), but she will not risk losing her job if she is caught dealing weapons to a native population of a planet under a weapons trade embargo. She only sells to non-natives, so if your character looks like a native, she will refuse outright. Any myr, myr-likes, and nyrean are not welcome to do business with her due to such circumstances. It has little to do with ancestry. As it was illustrated in the text, she even refuses the burden of proof to risk any complications or gray areas, so she sees it best to avoid the problem altogether.

As for the inbreeding thing: the myr are highly tribal in their mentality, so if an individual looks off, they will generally be stigmatized by the society. That was the point Juro was trying to bring across when positing the orange myr hybrid idea to him. He is saying that it can create more problems than it solves, leaving a certain doubt in his mind that such a plan may be fruitless in solving problems that are deeper ingrained into the habits of the myr people. Liliana also expands on this notion of appearance stigma when she talks about how those who return from the deep caves and are infected by the fungus aren't treated well by the society at large. While the separate myr species might have had a common ancestor, it does not necessarily mean they were actually orange myr. I think part of the reason why the war between the two subspecies was even started had to do more with controlling the narrative to who was the rightful ancestral line of the myr peoples than a simple turf war. I could be wrong on this account however.
 

Eva

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... Dense question. Can't Transgenders legally change their name?

Yes, but it'd still be a dick move to call a trans person by their legal name if they hadn't yet gone through the beauraucracy to change it away from their non-preferred given name.  
 
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Savin

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I think part of the reason why the war between the two subspecies was even started had to do more with controlling the narrative to who was the rightful ancestral line of the myr peoples than a simple turf war. I could be wrong on this account however.

I think it was more ideological than racial in origin: which SOCIETY, regardless of race, has the right to determine the planet's future. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the conflict was much more intense than it needed to be because of purely racial aggression. 
 

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I think it was more ideological than racial in origin: which SOCIETY, regardless of race, has the right to determine the planet's future. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the conflict was much more intense than it needed to be because of purely racial aggression. 

Ah, true, true; I can agree to that.

It could be the whole bag, really--past, present, and future. The most straight-forward way to divide a society is by physically breaking it up into superior and inferior races, classes, factions, and ideologies and continue to propagandize that to no end. Fuel to the fire indeed.
 

MissusEto

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I think it was more ideological than racial in origin: which SOCIETY, regardless of race, has the right to determine the planet's future. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the conflict was much more intense than it needed to be because of purely racial aggression. 

the evil part of me wants to weed out all the murderous ones, take the children, and start a new society :3

It's only evil because it's unethical...
 
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