Del's Gender??

EmperorG

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Is the avatar of the OP displaying weirdly for anyone else?

Seems the avatar's pic broke, doubt it will work till the OP returns.

Sounds like transphobia to me.

Doubtful, since this game really does have nothing against trans folks (Embry's people not withstanding). CoC had way more transphobia, but that was a plot point and not the author's prejudice speaking. I think you're taking this a little bit too seriously though, all that is needed is an option to call Del by male pronouns if you've not yet started the slut training with him.
 
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@Woider.


No Kink-Shaming, its disrespectful, degrading and devalues people.


Is your answer for trans-phobia to be "philia-phobic."


FYI: "Males and Females" find being called "cisgender" derogatory, and the way it is used among the LGBT community I don't blame them for it.
 
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I think you're taking this a little bit too seriously though, all that is needed is an option to call Del by male pronouns if you've not yet started the slut training with him.

Goddamnit... you're right, I'm letting my personal feelings and experiences with trans people get the better of me in this thread. I'm gonna stop here.
 

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Is this SJW'ing in my game of imaginary rape aliens and constant nonstop sex in every fetish possible?


While you shouldn't go out of your way to misgender somebody in real life this is a game, a game with a person who's content is not willing sex in general, but being a slave means he/she get's zero choice and is a whore to a shady business that is already speculated to be kidnapping and selling natives as sex slaves as well. Not supposed to be nice and packed up ina bow. In-fact I think that 'Kind Steel' should flat out be banned from the bar's content on Tarkus regardless, as it's too fucking dark for a nice person to loiter in anyways.
 

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Is the avatar of the OP displaying weirdly for anyone else?

404?


This thread should be nuked as OP's question has already been answered.
 
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In-fact I think that 'Kind Steel' should flat out be banned from the bar's content on Tarkus regardless, as it's too fucking dark for a nice person to loiter in anyways.

Counterpoint: have interactions with Del raise Hardness/lower Kindness. I'm not super thrilled with the idea of locking content behind (largely cosmetic) dialogue options.
 

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Counterpoint: have interactions with Del raise Hardness/lower Kindness. I'm not super thrilled with the idea of locking content behind (largely cosmetic) dialogue options.

Would also work as a nice compromise. there really aren't enough options that affect your personality, nor is there enough content that reflects your personality in general.
 

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Counterpoint: have interactions with Del raise Hardness/lower Kindness. I'm not super thrilled with the idea of locking content behind (largely cosmetic) dialogue options.

Though on the other hand it's also the only way I know of to grind exhibitionism in a reasonably quick manner, so going all the way to Hard from it would be unfortunate since I prefer Mischievous.  Perhaps set a cap on how far it can be adjusted if that gets implemented, you can already go full jerkass by doing most of Penny's full routes.
 

NEET-Hime

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Counterpoint: have interactions with Del raise Hardness/lower Kindness. I'm not super thrilled with the idea of locking content behind (largely cosmetic) dialogue options.

Sounds like a plan, my character goes from "mischievous" to kind before leaving Mhen'ga. Then again with how much I use Del, I'm going to be "hard" in no time.
 
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Then again with how much I use Del, I'm going to be "hard" in no time.

Well played, Hime. Well played.


On topic : my main beef with with Del is that the PC refers to him as a "she" even though he states he is a man and even if all you do is talk to him. So basically he's become one of those npcs I never interact with, ever.
 

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Well played, Hime. Well played.


On topic : my main beef with with Del is that the PC refers to him as a "she" even though he states he is a man and even if all you do is talk to him. So basically he's become one of those npcs I never interact with, ever.

That's how traps work, calling Del a she is politically correct.
 

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there ought to be an option to buy out Del's freedom, though, even if it's as simple as "deposit cash, remove trap".

This!

all that is needed is an option to call Del by male pronouns if you've not yet started the slut training with him.

And this too! Sissification's not my stuff, but my Steele is adventurous enough to get into sleazy places even if she's a nice gal... and I, as a player, like to unlock as much content as possible. Sadly, I an't do much if Del's always treated as a female even if you just happened to stumble across him.

FYI: "Males and Females" find being called "cisgender" derogatory, and the way it is used among the LGBT community I don't blame them for it.

I find it Tumblricious and somewhat medical-related. Not my stuff at all.
 

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I haven't reached 100% yet, nor do i think i should after all my PC produces red venom.


http://wiki.smutosaur.us/Addiction_%28TiTS%29#Red_Myr_Venom

I actually like the system for that. It ensures you can still use it without getting addicted to it, due to the dosage meter.


That means I can indulge in some Renvra hybrid dick without much trouble. (yay)


As an aside: To everyone, I'm sorry for this drama. It got way out of hand, and that's entirely on me for not handling my temper properly. I talked with some buddies about it, and that calmed me down, aswell as made me realize I was blowing this way out of proportion, and pushing alot of folks away with harsh words and labels. I'm willing to take any punishment the admins wish to level at me.
 

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I for one am a total "Doll Maker" (just like Alice) so yes Del is totally for me. There nothing sexier then dressing up a cute effeminate guy, doing his make up, and prancing him about on a leash.

I like you... lol


Also speaking as a guy who is pretty girly, playing a cute effeminate trap next to Del is a huge turn on for me. Also the male raskvel reaction when they win against a trappy male Steel makes me laugh.

Though on the other hand it's also the only way I know of to grind exhibitionism in a reasonably quick manner, so going all the way to Hard from it would be unfortunate since I prefer Mischievous.  Perhaps set a cap on how far it can be adjusted if that gets implemented, you can already go full jerkass by doing most of Penny's full routes.

I tend to blow/eat Flhane to grind my exabitionism up.


Also not to derail the original topic but speaking of exabitionism, it talks like there will be consequences for doing these kinds of things at some point. Is that something that has yet to be implemented? Cause once my skill is high enough my Steel drops trou wherever he or she happens to be standing once the skill is high enough.

I actually like the system for that. It ensures you can still use it without getting addicted to it, due to the dosage meter.


That means I can indulge in some Renvra hybrid dick without much trouble. (yay)


As an aside: To everyone, I'm sorry for this drama. It got way out of hand, and that's entirely on me for not handling my temper properly. I talked with some buddies about it, and that calmed me down, aswell as made me realize I was blowing this way out of proportion, and pushing alot of folks away with harsh words and labels. I'm willing to take any punishment the admins wish to level at me.

In your defence though, the OP did bring up a topic that many people could and may get passionate about. I read the first post and knew this topic would probably lead to argument.
 
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This is a weird thread. Not because of the OP, which comes in fair, but the response. If a person, fictional or otherwise, states and identifies with a particular gender - ie, male - then they're that gender. Not to difficult. The point of Del's character is that he's a dude being all sissied up but he is, in fact, a dude and proclaims it unless the PC trains him otherwise, but that goes down a particular fetish path and is a given. By all accounts at first Del should be called a she as the PC doesn't know better, he otherwise and right back into feminine she territory if they get to training.


That's more effort then likely thought up during the submission, however. Still, bringing it up and discussing it is a Good thing.

That's how traps work, calling Del a she is politically correct.

You are, actually, especially wrong. Hugely wrong, in fact, as one's appearance doesn't really mean a damn. It is the most unpolitically correct thing to call Del a woman based solely on their feminine appearance despite their claims of otherwise.
 

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We all have turn on and turn offs, lets not judge people for it. I for one am a total "Doll Maker" (just like Alice) so yes Del is totally for me. There nothing sexier then dressing up a cute effeminate guy, doing his make up, and prancing him about on a leash.

And having that done to me is a HUGE turn on. Being as Del is so quick to be like "yep, totally a girl now!" once they have some good sex as a 'girl' I've found them to be a very sexy character I like to think of myself as [and use a female Steele to play the other person in my fantasy]. I've seen A LOT of fucked up forced feminization stuff that just grosses me out, but when its only 'forced' in that the one making the boy a trap knows what he likes better than he does and takes the lead is EXTREMELY sexy to me.

. Here's the thing, though - you know why there were so few non-corrupt options in CoC? Because being nice and noble isn't as sexually arousing as being downright filthy towards someone.

I couldn't really disagree more, the idea of being corrupted or corrupting others turned me off in a heartbeat. Sure I want to fuck around, but the idea that my promiscuity might get in the way of saving the world kinda killed my boner. I can't imagine the idea your actions might be helping the Big Bad continue to do evil stuff being very conducive to continued arousal. If anything i'd think it'd be hotter if my Champ could be so pure that anything that fucked her got purified.
 

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Being as Del is so quick to be like "yep, totally a girl now!" once they have some good sex as a 'girl' I've found them to be a very sexy character I like to think of myself as [and use a female Steele to play the other person in my fantasy]. I've seen A LOT of fucked up forced feminization stuff that just grosses me out, but when its only 'forced' in that the one making the boy a trap knows what he likes better than he does and takes the lead is EXTREMELY sexy to me.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but it's worth noting that before you found him, Del had been fully jacked up on estrobloom and G-d knows what else. So his acceptance of the situation can be a lot like Penny's. Additionally, I seriously doubt that Beth Carver gave two shits about Del's likes and possible kinks when she randomly decided to 'brake' a normal non-indentured-servant employee. Captain Steele's interactions with Del can be viewed in a positive light you describe, if you squint hard enough.


A random but tangentially related to this thread observation: apparently traps are considered their own thing by the game and even have their own gender description in save files..
 

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I couldn't really disagree more, the idea of being corrupted or corrupting others turned me off in a heartbeat. Sure I want to fuck around, but the idea that my promiscuity might get in the way of saving the world kinda killed my boner. I can't imagine the idea your actions might be helping the Big Bad continue to do evil stuff being very conducive to continued arousal. If anything i'd think it'd be hotter if my Champ could be so pure that anything that fucked her got purified.

As someone who prefers the less extreme forms of intercourse the corrupted options instantly turned me off. Using a character solely for personal pleasure would make me flaccid in mere minutes, I just don't find it arousing in the least. Sure, I fucked everything that moved in the game, aswell, but never with any mind to mistreat or make them suffer. Even when I captured Ceraph, I wouldn't do the things to her she tried to do to me.


And for your last point, that was pretty much what was happening in the old RP that ran before it was unceremoniously killed. (atleast with my character)
 

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I couldn't really disagree more, the idea of being corrupted or corrupting others turned me off in a heartbeat. Sure I want to fuck around, but the idea that my promiscuity might get in the way of saving the world kinda killed my boner. I can't imagine the idea your actions might be helping the Big Bad continue to do evil stuff being very conducive to continued arousal. If anything i'd think it'd be hotter if my Champ could be so pure that anything that fucked her got purified.

You're entitled to that view, and I've heard it repeated once or twice, but you have to accept you're in the minority with it. Corrupt events massively outnumber pure or even neutral content in CoC, because that was mostly what the audience and writers wanted to see.


Also you're very much an "only with rose petals and candles oh no a slight breeze mood ruined goodnight" sort of person Dzeko, so you must forgive me for taking your views on turn offs with a pinch of salt.
 

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Kinky Pure alignment is...also good.
 

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Also you're very much an "only with rose petals and candles oh no a slight breeze mood ruined goodnight" sort of person Dzeko, so you must forgive me for taking your views on turn offs with a pinch of salt.

Not really actually, I might've been when I first got on the forums but between TiE, TiTS, and CoC I've become way more into kinky shit. I'm not fond of overt insults or like getting the shit beaten out of me but rough sex when its understood that both parties have positive opinions of one another and have some intent of pleasing one another is hot as Hell. I could go into specific examples if needed but I'll just say my tastes have gone pretty damn far from vanilla at this point. 
 

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You're entitled to that view, and I've heard it repeated once or twice, but you have to accept you're in the minority with it. Corrupt events massively outnumber pure or even neutral content in CoC, because that was mostly what the audience and writers wanted to see.


Also you're very much an "only with rose petals and candles oh no a slight breeze mood ruined goodnight" sort of person Dzeko, so you must forgive me for taking your views on turn offs with a pinch of salt.

I think you're confusing me and JDeko, as I'm probably the most vanilla person on the forum.

Not really actually, I might've been when I first got on the forums but between TiE, TiTS, and CoC I've become way more into kinky shit. I'm not fond of overt insults or like getting the shit beaten out of me but rough sex when its understood that both parties have positive opinions of one another and have some intent of pleasing one another is hot as Hell. I could go into specific examples if needed but I'll just say my tastes have gone pretty damn far from vanilla at this point. 

Rough Sex is good, though I prefer it when the bottom is *not* being meek and submissive, but rather egging their partner on for more, either through teasing or positive encouragement. A meek or submissive attitude just makes it seem they're not really into it, atleast in my view.
 

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And I like to be able to act meek and submissive, giving affirmative consent kills the mood for me. Much more than rose petals and candlelight my dream would be made to do housework in just an apron, high heels, and a knobby vibrator which is routinely taken out to make way for a strapon as I'm pressed firmly cheek-first into the table I'm being bent over and told what a good Pet I am.