CoC: Unofficially Expanded Edition (v1.4.19 for CoC 1.0.2)

Ormael

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As for being unfinished in these cases, the word I have heard, Fenoxo has given his blessing. Now, is this due to that is the way it was meant to be or was it because they were not completed but Fenoxo et al did not want to work the thresholds to reblock if they were crossed, I have no clue.Again, sorry for the shape of this response, brain mishaps are a major pain. :/  

Well seems mrttao already said what I wantred to say which was: both locations are accesable after first visit due to not both been filled with enough content to justify cutting off access to other place (and well somehow desert city was mostly reciving more love during days when CoC was actively denveloped, so it ended with tons of stuff when corrupted counterpart had little). So if that limitiation will ever show up it will be probably only in mod, when both places will have enough stuff to allow locking them behing certain corruption treshold.

Also no worry of response shape as my brain fully understood it ;)
 

mrttao

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As someone who is an admin on a wiki about a manga which has sex instances every now and then, I'd say nothing wrong's going to happen unless one keeps on using vulgar language or overtly sexual images. Plus Wikia is not constantly overseeing every wiki. Trust me, I've had to deal with too many abandoned ones in which vandalism was running rampant. After all, if one can close down a wiki due to posting "any content that is obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane, or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party", they should as well close those that are chock full of "solicited or unauthorized advertising, solicitations, "spam", or any other type of unauthorized solicitation" :p

P.S. Now that I'm reading the terms of use, I have noticed that one of the wikis in which I edit on will be well done if Wikia calls it a day, since "the Site is not and shall not function as an archive". Oops.

The issue is not that someone posts something pornographic, but the very game is pornographic. The occasional sex scene in a manga can be excused, but this game is undoubtedly porn. Moreover, the existence of forced sex in it makes it a bigger concern.

As for them not having the time to police everything. This is literally what i was referring when I said they didn't notice yet. But eventually someone will send them a complaint, as always happens, and they will then delete it.

Also, please note the link I provided earlier to what was literally the first corruption of champions wiki, on wikia, which they closed. And they closed a bunch of other wikis of porn games which I have been following. I don't want them to close it, I don't think it deserves closing, I am simply recognizing that it is a waste of effort to put stuff on a site (wikia) that has a history of deleting the content of porn games in general and coc in the specific
 
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Rycharde

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I understand your concern, and I'll see that content is not lost.

On that note, anyone know of a good wiki-rip software. I REALLY don't want all that work (I have done ;) ) to be forenot if Wikia's anti-porno-Nazis wipe it out. :)

Also no worry of response shape as my brain fully understood it ;)

Thanx. :)  
 

Kesil

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The issue is not that someone posts something pornographic, but the very game is pornographic. The occasional sex scene in a manga can be excused, but this game is undoubtedly porn. Moreover, the existence of forced sex in it makes it a bigger concern.

As for them not having the time to police everything. This is literally what i was referring when I said they didn't notice yet. But eventually someone will send them a complaint, as always happens, and they will then delete it.

Also, please note the link I provided earlier to what was literally the first corruption of champions wiki, on wikia, which they closed. And they closed a bunch of other wikis of porn games which I have been following. I don't want them to close it, I don't think it deserves closing, I am simply recognizing that it is a waste of effort to put stuff on a site (wikia) that has a history of deleting the content of porn games in general and coc in the specific

I know this might sound like a bit of a technical thing, but I'd say there's a difference between discussing an issue that's pornographic and outright showing the pornography featured in that issue. Granted, that fine line is not enough as evidenced by how those wikis were closed down, but perhaps they were handled in a not so subtle way. Or perhaps not: I don't remember the original CoC wiki as looking exactly "lewd". With a bit of luck, no one will send a complain. And now that I have jinxed it (XD), I do aknowledge that it's a waste of efford if a wiki lives under uncertain terms, but I want to think that Rycharde will find a way to create a backup of the contents in case shit hits the fan.

Wikia is a convenient medium in which one can contribute regardless of having an account or not. Orain requires you to have an account to contribute, which makes work a not so easy task.
 
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Rycharde

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Wikia is a convenient medium in which one can contribute regardless of having an account or not. Orain requires you to have an account to contribute, which makes work a not so easy task.

Orain is down for good, unfortunately. Fortunately, I had moved over to Wikia not long before it went down.
 

Kesil

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If that's the case, I'd strongly suggest you (since you're the one running the wiki, but I guess all of us should work on this) to think of a Plan B in case it's needed.
 

Rycharde

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First things first, a good wiki-ripper is needed. All files (text -- pages, categories, templates, etc -- and pix), all data, etc. A good software (preferably on the free side since I'm poor. LOL
 

Sacredferro

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First things first, a good wiki-ripper is needed. All files (text -- pages, categories, templates, etc -- and pix), all data, etc. A good software (preferably on the free side since I'm poor. LOL

I have no idea if it's what you're looking for, but I've used httracker in the past to make an offline copy of the wiki back when orain was going down a lot, also because my internet is not the most reliable (f' you AT&T).

http://www.httrack.com/

Again, don't know if that gets you what you need. The last time I used it, it didn't copy everything from the wiki site missing mostly pics and a few pages, but then again I don't know if I'm just missing a step or doing it wrong. I feel like if I had more experience with web tech I'd be getting far better results. For me it works, sort of. Haven't used it in a while though. Wouldn't be my first pick, but if you don't find another alternative, it's better than nothing I guess (it is free).
 
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mrttao

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I know this might sound like a bit of a technical thing, but I'd say there's a difference between discussing an issue that's pornographic and outright showing the pornography featured in that issue.

I agree, but at the end of the day wikis are run and owned by people who sometimes don't enforce the rules fairly due to their own prejudices.
 

Rycharde

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I agree, but at the end of the day wikis are run and owned by people who sometimes don't enforce the rules fairly due to their own prejudices.

I know that.

Had two pix deleted from my anime page because they were displaying nipples. Yes, they were displaying nipples; they were also males. They were traps, what the japanese call otokonoko. I made it QUITE clear in the description they were traps. Their crotches, wearing panties, showed that they were males. They were flatter chested than all of the flat chested women I have seem (got a fetish about this). Tried to get in touch with them MANY times; they of course would not respond.

God I love prejudices and bigotry, and censorship. You can have violent content on a website but once a nipple or an ass cheek appears...  :mad:
 

MILK/SHAKE

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So, for the Vala impreg stuff is it also possible to have the pc ask her to stop seeing other people? Maybe move her into camp.
 

Sacredferro

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I know that.

Had two pix deleted from my anime page because they were displaying nipples. Yes, they were displaying nipples; they were also males. They were traps, what the japanese call otokonoko. I made it QUITE clear in the description they were traps. Their crotches, wearing panties, showed that they were males. They were flatter chested than all of the flat chested women I have seem (got a fetish about this). Tried to get in touch with them MANY times; they of course would not respond.

God I love prejudices and bigotry, and censorship. You can have violent content on a website but once a nipple or an ass cheek appears...  :mad:

Where I come from, that's called cable. Welcome to 21st century Earth, friend. Sorry for the mess and mind the noise...
 

Kataman

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Hey Kitteh6660,

Is it possible for you to update the pictures, like adding more pictures for certain characters that does not have any pictures of them? I really want to see more pics of the goblin girls, Edryn, Katherine, and others. Like I said, if possible, that you can do it.
 

Sacredferro

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(post above)

Are you referring to adding image ID's and support for more scenes or the pics themselves? I ask because the latter is handled by the image pack which is hatternumber0's baby (also pretty sure you can add your own pics too btw). The former is something Kitteh can do, but it depends on what he's working on now or if it needs to enter queue.
 

MILK/SHAKE

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vala isn't seeing anyone else, she is totally devoted to the PC.

If I recall wasn't she seeing people on the side? I think there was a segment about that in the Vala document. Which yeah, kind of struck me as out of character given her insane devotion to the PC.
 

Rycharde

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Got a query from the wiki that I could not answer: 

"Does the effect of the Factory's destruction extend beyond the Lake? that is, is all of maereth corupted and will scenarios be different after, or will only Maera be different?"
 

Sacredferro

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Got a query from the wiki that I could not answer: 

"Does the effect of the Factory's destruction extend beyond the Lake? that is, is all of maereth corupted and will scenarios be different after, or will only Maera be different?"

Beyond that, not that I'm aware. Only other game changes I know of is some encounters in the Lake and Boat encounter lists. Green slimes have a higher encounter rate at the cost of fewer goo-girls and Venus turns into a herm. Fetish Cultist and Zealots become encounterable, but that happens regardless as to whether the player chose to shutdown the Factory safely or by destroying the valves.

Lore-wise, unless I missed something it sounded like the effects of destroying the Factory are localized to the lake area only and don't extend beyond it.
 

Foxxling

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Got a query from the wiki that I could not answer: 

"Does the effect of the Factory's destruction extend beyond the Lake? that is, is all of maereth corupted and will scenarios be different after, or will only Maera be different?"

More corrupted glades in the for=rest as well i believe
 

Metalax

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More corrupted glades in the for=rest as well i believe

Be interesting to know if that reintroduces them to the forest if you already wiped them out beforehand, if that is the case.
 

Sacredferro

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That effects Corrupted Glade encounter? That's news to me. Is that from the original game or something the mod added?
 

Kitteh6660

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I've decided I'll continue to provide a few more patches.

So in the case, here's version 1.3.4 with more bug fixes!

I've checked the code and so far, the choice to shut down the factory or blow up the factory doesn't influence the corrupted glades at all. I think.
 

Sacredferro

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Anyways, I'm about to crawl up into bed with some old action flicks and chillax for the night. Just got back from family-time and I'm freakin stuffed more than a cheap whore in a brothel in down-town Tel'Adre after Mareth's only Minotaur football team comes rolling on through for the night. Wanted to drop by to say happy Thanksgiving, whether you celebrate it or not.

Okay, now I must leave before those government men armed with MP-7's and MP-5K's show up and start asking people about my whereabouts. Just remember: I was never here! (Throws down smoke bomb) "POOF! And I'm gone..."

PS; how 'bout dem Cowboys, eh? 4th quarter and Carolina's up 33-6? Damn!
 

Kitteh6660

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Scholar's tea was nerfed because it allowed you to easily reach 100 intelligence early on. You could spend just 100 gems and gain 30 intelligence.

So if you have higher intelligence, it now takes much more tea to max out intelligence.
 

Rycharde

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Scholar's tea was nerfed because it allowed you to easily reach 100 intelligence early on. You could spend just 100 gems and gain 30 intelligence.

So if you have higher intelligence, it now takes much more tea to max out intelligence.

Cool. I though it weird that I could max out on all attributes. Made game turn into walk through.

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Working on sex scene. Anyone have any suggestions beyond what I have listed below:

Corruption < 40
Corruption => 40

male
female
herm
ovipositor‏‎

humanoid
taur
naga
drider
 
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