The Thraggen Tf (aka "i want to be a space orc and there's nothing you can do to stop me from it")

[LeDoraggo]

Ngl, was really thinking about this for a long time now, but discussions on a recent thread made me go "yeah, i can probably do this". So, i made this thread to gatter some feedback before i make a real doc to (hopefully one day) submit it (which will probably won't really happen, but still)

So, the Thraggen, big green things that like to fight and fuck, preferably in that order. I think the biggest thing a Thraggen mod would have on its favor is the "you get hard by being hit" thing. I originally tought of making it a perk that turned some of the physical damage the player takes into lust damage instead, but i'm not sure what the general consensus for tfs giving you perks that affect combat is in the current day

That out of the way, i guess the only thing left to do is just get my procastinating ahh to finally write the doc down. It'll probably take me a while, but i'll hopefully post it whenever i have it somewhat ready. I'm open to any ideas y'all might think are important/useful to keep in mind

 

[Theron]

So, the Thraggen, big green things that like to fight and fuck, preferably in that order. I think the biggest thing a Thraggen mod would have on its favor is the "you get hard by being hit" thing. I originally tought of making it a perk that turned some of the physical damage the player takes into lust damage instead, but i'm not sure what the general consensus for tfs giving you perks that affect combat is in the current day

It's supposed to be frowned on, but it still happens.

That out of the way, i guess the only thing left to do is just get my procastinating ahh to finally write the doc down. It'll probably take me a while, but i'll hopefully post it whenever i have it somewhat ready. I'm open to any ideas y'all might think are important/useful to keep in mind

You'll need to decide how to get enough racial score to meaningfully differentiate it from Humans, but you knew that already.
Female (-presenting?) Thraggen are likely to qualify for Amazon, too.

 

[razor777]

I think the biggest thing a Thraggen mod would have on its favor is the "you get hard by being hit" thing. I originally tought of making it a perk that turned some of the physical damage the player takes into lust damage instead, but i'm not sure what the general consensus for tfs giving you perks that affect combat is in the current day

 

[LeDoraggo]

It's supposed to be frowned on, but it still happens

I know, that's why i'm mostly hesitant from adding it (even though the idea was one of the things that originally inspired me to make the TF). It's probably the only thing i'm willing to not really include if i ever get to submit it

You'll need to decide how to get enough racial score to meaningfully differentiate it from Humans, but you knew that already.
Female (-presenting?) Thraggen are likely to qualify for Amazon, too.

Thraggen are really similar to humans if one leaves the orc-ish appearance aside. The basic would be to give the player a tusked face, eyes with black sclera, a more muscular build, and greener skin tones. I know that more femenine Thraggen are usually presented as "amazonian", so i'll probably lean more towards that. Other than that, i'll see if it's worth it to make any other "Thraggen" body parts

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Does that perk really work like that? I think i'd never interacted enough with Akane to actually get it in any run, so i'm not sure if it's the same as i described. Again, i'll probably just focus on the physical changes, so it's likely i won't have to worry about perk shenanigans

 

[Azrael1]

Funniest thing about this, is that a few days ago I was asking about the idea of a Thraggen transformation for Mitzi and curious how it would affect her personality if she underwent the transformation.

Other than that, good idea as I never knew there was no means of becoming one at the time.

 

[LeDoraggo]

Other than that, good idea as I never knew there was no means of becoming one at the time.

Yes, there's none, not even save editing (unless you count penis, which my theory is that it's only really there for Ardia), which has always seemed baffling to me, honestly

Also, about the Mitzi stuff, i don't know personally, as i have little to no experience writing such scenes yet and have no plans of doing it, really, but (assuming my stupid idea gets acepted) if anyone in the future wants to use this stuff for such an expansion, it's fine by me

 

[Theron]

I know that more femenine Thraggen are usually presented as "amazonian", so i'll probably lean more towards that.

What I meant is, they'll probably usually be considered 'Amazonian Thraggen' by the system, which is redundant.

Does that perk really work like that? I think i'd never interacted enough with Akane to actually get it in any run, so i'm not sure if it's the same as i described. Again, i'll probably just focus on the physical changes, so it's likely i won't have to worry about perk shenanigans

I'm pretty sure the description is misleading, at least from the Flash code I saw. It's supposed to give you scaling bonus Defense as HP decreases, while lowering Lust Defense by the same amount. But I think I found a bug in the port while confirming it.

 

[PanzerGuitar00]

But I think I found a bug in the port while confirming it.

That.... sounds familiar actually... was that ever fixed?

 

[Theron]

That.... sounds familiar actually... was that ever fixed?

No. I just found and reported it today.

 

[PanzerGuitar00]

No. I just found and reported it today.

Hm. Maybe give it a bump then.

 

[PanzerGuitar00]

Oh wait you meant just now, lol woops.

 

[LeDoraggo]

I'm pretty sure the description is misleading, at least from the Flash code I saw. It's supposed to give you scaling bonus Defense as HP decreases, while lowering Lust Defense by the same amount. But I think I found a bug in the port while confirming it.

Like i said, never interacted with Akane enough to get the perk, so if i just described it's effects, then it was completely not intentional
I saw it on the wiki, but it honestly always kind of confused me, so i try to steer clear from it

 

[Theron]

RE: Perk
How about 'Orgasms restore HP'.
It won't make a difference in combat, but I think it fits the theme. Normally, when you're defeated by HP, you'll lose all combat until you regain some by Resting/Sleeping or using an item. With this, even if you lose by HP, you'll be ready for the next fight, as long as the last encounter ended with sex.
The only potential issue I see is being able to masturbate back to full health. If you want to curb the potential for 'abuse', I'd say either put a cap (1/2, 1/4 max HP) or just make it heal a small amount of HP (1-5?). I was thinking about maybe it could scale with Lust, but I don't know the order of operations in the orgasm code.

 

[LeDoraggo]

Good call. To remove the 'cheesing' of it, it could function somewhat similar to Breed 'n Brute, where only orgasms from penetrative sex activate the perk's effects. Maybe even giving the player a small stat boost for some minutes afterwards, though we'll be getting into "it does affect combat" territory again. Perhaps just giving it a cooldown of a few hours would be beter. I'll see what i can come up with. Thanks for the idea

 

[Theron]

I lean toward the KISS principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid). The easier it is to code the better, in general. Personally, I'd provide the developers with some balancing ideas and let them figure out which, if any, they think is most appropriate. It may be my concern is unnecessary. There are lots of ways to heal: items, the healing cocksock, Tika, Resting, etc..

For clarity, I based the idea off Energizing Libido (which does let you get back to full Energy, eventually).

 

[LeDoraggo]

Does (Physique/2) sound good? I want it to keep the idea that Thraggen's bodies are literaly made to fight and fuck afterwards, and i thought Physique could be a good way to determine the ammount of HP you can get back from busting a nut (also, it was the only stat that made sense out of the others). I also thought of Tone, but i discarded it immediately after remembering tone is easier to increase than physique
Maybe i'm just overthinking this, though

 

[Theron]

Is Physique/2 the cap, or how much you get?
I believe max Physique is 65 + 10 (Implant) + 5 (Signet of Bravery) = 80

You might be overthinking it. Also, this works for females, too, right?

 

[LeDoraggo]

Yes, it does (or at least I hope it will). Females can bust (girl)nuts too, after all
My idea was for the recovered HP equal to half of your total current Physique value, meaning that, in the case you mentioned, you'll recover at least 40 HP from a single orgasm, probably going on a (lengthy) cooldown to avoid it being overpowered. I'll probably reduce it down to 25% of current physique if it's still too powerful, though

 

[Theron]

Oh wait you meant just now, lol woops.

False alarm. Tested it in-game, and it seems to work as intended.

My idea was for the recovered HP equal to half of your total current Physique value, meaning that, in the case you mentioned, you'll recover at least 40 HP from a single orgasm, probably going on a (lengthy) cooldown to avoid it being overpowered. I'll probably reduce it down to 25% of current physique if it's still too powerful, though

You might want to set a minimum of 1, just in case someone does something crazy like use the Aim implant and get 0 effective Physique.

 

[LeDoraggo]

Okay, been working for most of the day on the doc so far, scratching my nogging for what'd make the most sense for a Thraggen TF to have, and i'm currently at the transformative effects part. I'm kinda liking it so far (even though i'll probably end up changing a few things eventually), so i'm going to post the link to the doc for you guys to give it a peek
Here it is, let me know if there's any problems with the doc and if there's any change i should do to it

 

[Azrael1]

Yes, there's none, not even save editing (unless you count penis, which my theory is that it's only really there for Ardia), which has always seemed baffling to me, honestly

Also, about the Mitzi stuff, i don't know personally, as i have little to no experience writing such scenes yet and have no plans of doing it, really, but (assuming my stupid idea gets acepted) if anyone in the future wants to use this stuff for such an expansion, it's fine by me

Fair enough

 

[PanzerGuitar00]

Okay, been working for most of the day on the doc so far, scratching my nogging for what'd make the most sense for a Thraggen TF to have, and i'm currently at the transformative effects part. I'm kinda liking it so far (even though i'll probably end up changing a few things eventually), so i'm going to post the link to the doc for you guys to give it a peek
Here it is, let me know if there's any problems with the doc and if there's any change i should do to it

Lol, nice.

Though I do think it's in need of a once over because I saw a good number of grammar errors.

I'd give a detailed rundown but it's 1230 am at the time of writing and ya boy be eepy.

Give me a poke on it later and I'll give it a thorough pass.

 

[razor777]

Okay, been working for most of the day on the doc so far, scratching my nogging for what'd make the most sense for a Thraggen TF to have, and i'm currently at the transformative effects part. I'm kinda liking it so far (even though i'll probably end up changing a few things eventually), so i'm going to post the link to the doc for you guys to give it a peek
Here it is, let me know if there's any problems with the doc and if there's any change i should do to it

Looking good so far, It's nice to see the lesser seen races get some TF lovin.

Hope one day someone does a matisar TF, I want my mantis TF dag-nabbit!

 

[LeDoraggo]

Have a migraine literally drillig a hole through my head rn, but i swear if i go back to sleep it'll just get worse (hangover's a bitch), so might as well just jump on my 'puter and jerk off to oily femboy feet continue writting on this (after taking some painkillers, that is)

Though I do think it's in need of a once over because I saw a good number of grammar errors.

I know. English is not my first language, so even with Google autotranslate, there's (quite) a few things that'll slip through my radar. Thank god i have you guys to help me out. Feel free to point out any errors you might find (even if it's something as silly as a missing period) so i can hopefully fix them before turning this in

Looking good so far, It's nice to see the lesser seen races get some TF lovin.

Thanks. Was really worried about it, since it's my first time actually sitting my ahh down and writing something for the game. Seeing you guys liking it truly makes someone want to keep on going, really
Also, yes, WE (yes, WE, as in US) really need some more green babes (and hunks, even if they're not exactly my cup of tea) in our Steeles' lives (here's hoping Mhorgenn gets an expansion and becomes a crewmate, as imposible as that sounds)

Anyways, i'll get back to writting. I'll keep you guys updated on anything relevant should anything happen (even though nothing ever happens)

 

[LeDoraggo]

Quick question guys, you think the Tf should give you a human vagina, or do you consider it should probably give you one from another type?

Cuz i was thinking about making it give you a Gabilani vag (don't ask why, it sounded right in my head. Also, Holstaria already does it, so it wouldn't really be all that weird), but i've been really thinking about it, and i'm not sure it's as good of an idea anymore. Sure, it could go for the human type, but i fear that i'll just end up making Terran Treats but vegan at this point

Idk, probably overthinking it. Haven't written anything in the past week because i felt like i had no ideas, but i'll keep trying to see what i can do to move it forward and stop procastinating

 

[razor777]

Quick question guys, you think the Tf should give you a human vagina, or do you consider it should probably give you one from another type?

Cuz i was thinking about making it give you a Gabilani vag (don't ask why, it sounded right in my head. Also, Holstaria already does it, so it wouldn't really be all that weird), but i've been really thinking about it, and i'm not sure it's as good of an idea anymore. Sure, it could go for the human type, but i fear that i'll just end up making Terran Treats but vegan at this point

Idk, probably overthinking it. Haven't written anything in the past week because i felt like i had no ideas, but i'll keep trying to see what i can do to move it forward and stop procastinating

I don't see why the thraggen would have a nonhuman vagina (though the fact this species has their own unique penis type makes me question if their vagina's are different aswell), I mean what are orcs in most media besides mutated elves, whom in themselves are glorified humans.

Hell Goblinola already does most of what your TF does(just with Goblin parts, and shrinking your character instead of growing them), and I don't consider your TF anymore a knock-off Terran Treats than that one is.

 

[razor777]

"WHO INSULTS ME SPINACH!?"

Ro'Gar's had all he can stands, cause he can stands NO MORE!

(didn't make this myself, not that good a drawer .-.)

 

[LeDoraggo]

I don't see why the thraggen would have a nonhuman vagina (though the fact this species has their own unique penis type makes me question if their vagina's are different aswell), I mean what are orcs in most media besides mutated elves, whom in themselves are glorified humans

I'm giding myself with the same logic here. Thraggen penis is already technically in the game (though it lacks any specific description, which i think could be shared with Human penis type), so i was thinking i either make the tf give you a vanilla (human) vagina, or i make up a new vagina type to match with the weiner, which (no pun intended) is going to be a pain in the arse

 

[LeDoraggo]

Okay, so i'm done with the main bulk of the transformation effects. Kinda proud how it turned out, but i might revisit it if needed (hopefully so the coders don't want my head on a pike)
Now comes the worst fun part: Tf-ing blurbs! Will try to work on them on the following days, so hopefully i stop procastinating and actually end up finishing ts (this shit) by then

Edit: i also rewrote the item description to one that (in my head) made more sense. I originally wanted to make it so that the cans were used to fund the war effort of the UGC against the green brutes (like it was done in most of the US during WWII, for example), but then i remembered it was supposed to turn you into the same green and mean things they were fighting, so i made it so that it suffered a similar fate to that of Corona beer during lockdown

 

[razor777]

Thraggen penis is already technically in the game (though it lacks any specific description, which i think could be shared with Human penis type)

If you wanna make Thraggen penises unique with your TF, Akbal the demon cat from Corruption Of Champions 1 has an interesting penis you could draw inspiration from.