Yeah that WILL be part of her future expansion.
Your Gripes With CoC2
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And I'm very thankful for her. But girls like her are in the minority, and the constant steam of dominant futas has really grated my nerves. I used to be okay with them, but excessive exposure leads to the gum losing its flavour.
At the risk of sounding like a brown-noser: it's a free game with community-submitted content. You get what the people who are willing to actually write something for the game feel like writing (or are commissioned to write, in some cases).
This is doubly true when the fetish in question is something that a majority of the playerbase is into.
That being said, there are some fetish that is just overdone to the point of becoming boring.
I have a drastically reduced interest in horsecock (lol) because of how omnipresent it is in this game.
Khor'minos NOT helping due to the fact that every male and futa bar I think one in Khor'minos has a horse-cock, and then add all the non-Khor'minos NPCs that also have a horsecock and that Wsan likes centaurs so the horsecock numbers have another reason for their continued growth and I can genuinely say COC2 has killed my interest in horse benis.
I don't know if this is still a gripes forum.
TLDR; I don't get to be in the position of bull/stalion/desired top enough and get FORCED into submissive/cuckoldry roles waaayyyy too often and without warning (not talking about consequences of losing combats)
My gripes at the end of the day is that you have to walk on eggshells while playing otherwise you just get cucked, butt fucked and stuff like that for no reason and that you don't get to take the reigns of situations often enough.
My character is a Duo "weaponized" Dragon, strong, mighty and proud and I hate how I can't live that fantasy fully (that detail is important, there are a few situations where you definitely feel like "him") in coc2.
"Oh but that character is dom" well I'm more.
"oh but that character is virile" I'm more.
"oh but that characters is strong" I'm stronger.
My favorite type of partners are feminine ones, what's between their legs is irrelevant.
It's already hard to deal with the fact most dicked women/futa in this game are either dom or 50/50.
I've always hated the fact I can't grab Aurera for 10 hours straight and rock her world to the moon and back or have to tolerate Evelynn's tantrums of dom before she gets shown where she belongs.
But then, you also have to deal with surprise attacks like: you sit next to hashat? Etheryn is there? whoops she sucked her cock! If I'm there blow me and that mare can watch if she wants or join I got two dicks for a reason.
I don't just want the options of sit on her lap or be cucked.
One of my favorite scenes is with Farrah, the "Arid rose", I love the way it's written!
Not only does Farrah worship you through out the whole scene, she ends ups shaking and leaking on your lap like she got tased and when she gets up you still slap her ass and grab that cobalt beauty before you go.
That's how a dominant character acts and I wish there was more of that.
The attitude of a champion who has saved countless lives and cities, rose a wayfort from the ground with his hands, travelled seas, converses regularly, has beaten mentally and physically gods and divine beings and in the case of my character has several royalty and nobility wanting to marry him.
Is it such a stretch to just want that to manifest more often?
That being said this is my first post and I've no idea how people react here so just in case I'll leave this here:
I've been playing coc and coc2 for the longest time, legally I'll say since I was 18 cough and I LOVE these games, the customization, the world, the beautiful characters you come across, which is the only reason I'm even making this post.
I know the things I spoke about are unlikely to change but it would do wonders if we got an option to remove that type of content from gameplay or if we got warnings like "if you accept aronas quest she'll try to fuck your elven companion all the time" and I don't want that in my playthrough.
Still the game is great and thanks for all the years of writting, effort and surely controversies.
P.S: I'd really like to give Aurera the time of her life and show her the advantages of being a loving bottom, just saying.
TLDR; I don't get to be in the position of bull/stalion/desired top enough and get FORCED into submissive/cuckoldry roles waaayyyy too often and without warning (not talking about consequences of losing combats)
My gripes at the end of the day is that you have to walk on eggshells while playing otherwise you just get cucked, butt fucked and stuff like that for no reason and that you don't get to take the reigns of situations often enough.
My character is a Duo "weaponized" Dragon, strong, mighty and proud and I hate how I can't live that fantasy fully (that detail is important, there are a few situations where you definitely feel like "him") in coc2.
"Oh but that character is dom" well I'm more.
"oh but that character is virile" I'm more.
"oh but that characters is strong" I'm stronger.
My favorite type of partners are feminine ones, what's between their legs is irrelevant.
It's already hard to deal with the fact most dicked women/futa in this game are either dom or 50/50.
I've always hated the fact I can't grab Aurera for 10 hours straight and rock her world to the moon and back or have to tolerate Evelynn's tantrums of dom before she gets shown where she belongs.
But then, you also have to deal with surprise attacks like: you sit next to hashat? Etheryn is there? whoops she sucked her cock! If I'm there blow me and that mare can watch if she wants or join I got two dicks for a reason.
I don't just want the options of sit on her lap or be cucked.
One of my favorite scenes is with Farrah, the "Arid rose", I love the way it's written!
Not only does Farrah worship you through out the whole scene, she ends ups shaking and leaking on your lap like she got tased and when she gets up you still slap her ass and grab that cobalt beauty before you go.
That's how a dominant character acts and I wish there was more of that.
The attitude of a champion who has saved countless lives and cities, rose a wayfort from the ground with his hands, travelled seas, converses regularly, has beaten mentally and physically gods and divine beings and in the case of my character has several royalty and nobility wanting to marry him.
Is it such a stretch to just want that to manifest more often?
That being said this is my first post and I've no idea how people react here so just in case I'll leave this here:
I've been playing coc and coc2 for the longest time, legally I'll say since I was 18 cough and I LOVE these games, the customization, the world, the beautiful characters you come across, which is the only reason I'm even making this post.
I know the things I spoke about are unlikely to change but it would do wonders if we got an option to remove that type of content from gameplay or if we got warnings like "if you accept aronas quest she'll try to fuck your elven companion all the time" and I don't want that in my playthrough.
Still the game is great and thanks for all the years of writting, effort and surely controversies.
P.S: I'd really like to give Aurera the time of her life and show her the advantages of being a loving bottom, just saying.
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If you'd like to provide a list of scenes in which you feel that's happening, we'll take a look at it -- it's never our intention for that to be the case unexpectedly. But there's usually something you've done that triggers that to happen, rather than it coming out of nowhere, like cranking Etheryn's libido way past the human norm.
Some of this I kinda agree with. Brint's a good example — there was the thing with Elthara I mentioned earlier in this thread, or the fact that even a max height, strength and musculature champion gets absolutely no-diffed while trying to wrestle him (even though we can carry all ~1,500 lbs of Alante over our shoulder). Some characters do feel like they're written with a certain kind of champion in mind and not any others.
Buuuuut
It's important to bear in mind that very few of the characters that the champion can get with in CoC2 are monogamous. Like with the Etheryn/Hashat thing, you're not exclusive. Is Ryn getting "cucked" if you decide to go plow Cait at the inn later?
And with certain characters not being dommable, I think that's more of a "I wish this writer would add more scenes" thing. Which, trust me, everyone wants that. It's just not always feasible.
I don't say this to be the game's defense force or nothin', but you gotta be sure that your gripes make good sense if you want the devs to really take them to heart.
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The hashat scene is a great example.
You sit down at a fire place and suddenly ryn is sucking someone elses cock right in front of you out of nowhere.
Daliza and Jae'lyn literally start having sex the first time you bring her to the frost hound (I have maid Jae'Lyn) as she asks the champion to have Daliza for a minute, nothing you can do about it.
I brought my two submissive elves together so we could all have fun, not so I happen to walk in on them and they allow me to join in.
I want them to focus on me not share Daliza per say (although that's more of a me preference)
I'm not even gonna talk about the Brint topic that Punccline refered, I just turn him into a woman and thats problem solved, still if you're a masculine champion you'll always get compared negatively to him and I think if I've made my character a max strength barbarian I should able to bully him if I felt like it (which I wouldn't, but it'd be nice to see characters recognize you as a muscular powerhouse to be feared in case you are)
I'm waiting for the full game release to make a new playthrough again so I'm not going to pretend as if I have list right now, but I don't mind coming back here later when the content is mostly done to share when I felt like this, "Impotent" would be the more precise word. I also learned to avoid interacting with certain characters romantically like Cait to avoid this feeling
Thanks for the reply though, happy to see the head of the project reading these types of forums and hearing people out.
P.S again: Aurera haha
I get what you're saying, which is why I said things are unlikely to change in my post.
I don't think Ryn would be annoyed by it because it's stated many times she finds it hot seeing you with other people, she likes watching, I don't.
Which makes sense with my character I believe, it's a super virile Dragon, she knows she's next. My character never leaves anyone left out.
What bothers me though is that EVERYONE is super loyal and super exclusive and only have at most threesomes on their "dominant" partners terms except for the champion, sex scenes start without your consent, characters get fucked in the background.
Some examples:
Daliza and Jae'lyn
I don't count Azzy because it's the basically players choice if she gets with the lumian paladin or not.
Aurera and Clementine you can't separate them you can't steal Aurera or Clem for yourself. Only way you can interact with Aurera is worship or getting pegged.
No matter what you don't get access to Clems vagina.
The Harem in the khor minos baths, either you submit to the Harem or you can't have any interaction with any of the 3 babes she has.
Evelynn, guess what, you plow her she loves it, wanna bring anyone else? you're sucking dick! Which in it self isn't the problem, the problem is being dragged to the submissive role, the one being controlled and pushed around which is not what, my champion at least, is about.
I didn't write this in hopes of changing the game except maybe some dev reads this and has fun coding a dom scene or two.
If people are into it that's more than fine.
I think the critique of trying to play a masculine bull/stalion/desirable/worshippable top and constantly getting emasculated either by the characters that swear up and down you're the love of their life or circumstances that you get roped into is valid
Hashat - You did this to yourself, you have to allow it for it to become a thing.
Daliza and Jae'lyn - Same thing, if you open the option you forfeit control.
You mean Aurera and Claire right? Clem is an entirely different ballgame. You are the one going into their relationship, not either of them going into yours. Not sure the problem here.
Same thing with the Harem, you are adding yourself to their dynamic. You aren't top dog here. It just doesn't make sense to dom here.
Evelyn is Evelyn. I honestly avoid her most of the time because I don't like how the Champion is written with her.
I would like more scenes where they allow you some control, sure, or power bottom. But giving you full control isn't part of their dynamic.
Now if we want to talk about a character I could see you taking control on... Kalysea. She's mindbreaking you, so turn around is fair play if it was ever gonna be written (which likely not).
Daliza and Jae'lyn - Same thing, if you open the option you forfeit control.
You mean Aurera and Claire right? Clem is an entirely different ballgame. You are the one going into their relationship, not either of them going into yours. Not sure the problem here.
Same thing with the Harem, you are adding yourself to their dynamic. You aren't top dog here. It just doesn't make sense to dom here.
Evelyn is Evelyn. I honestly avoid her most of the time because I don't like how the Champion is written with her.
I would like more scenes where they allow you some control, sure, or power bottom. But giving you full control isn't part of their dynamic.
Now if we want to talk about a character I could see you taking control on... Kalysea. She's mindbreaking you, so turn around is fair play if it was ever gonna be written (which likely not).
+1 for more power bottoming scenes.
For a gripe, I hate the UI for the powers tab in your journal, if you like collecting a bunch of powers like me, the horizontal layout makes viewing my massive list tedious and the search function isn't very useful as sometimes I forget/don't know what the power is named or am just perusing some descriptions or experimenting with random powers and some descriptions don't even fully appear when hovering over them which is annoying.
I would like if the layout was changed into something like the one used for yu gi oh master duel or something.
A list of powers in a vertical view with scrolling and a column for equipped powers?
Unrelated, can someone tell me whether the geomancy powers target armor or ward?
I would also like to mention I find it strange how the geomancer bracelets improve spellpower but the geomancy powers require attack power...
For a gripe, I hate the UI for the powers tab in your journal, if you like collecting a bunch of powers like me, the horizontal layout makes viewing my massive list tedious and the search function isn't very useful as sometimes I forget/don't know what the power is named or am just perusing some descriptions or experimenting with random powers and some descriptions don't even fully appear when hovering over them which is annoying.
I would like if the layout was changed into something like the one used for yu gi oh master duel or something.
A list of powers in a vertical view with scrolling and a column for equipped powers?
Unrelated, can someone tell me whether the geomancy powers target armor or ward?
I would also like to mention I find it strange how the geomancer bracelets improve spellpower but the geomancy powers require attack power...
No, the scene just happens at you with no player input. Not something you do or allow.
Technically you can avoid that by either sitting in Hashat's lap yourself, or just leaving. Though I will grant it doesn't warn you if you sit beside and have Ryn in party... but I mean if you talk to Hashat before this scene even happens at all, it's safe to assume she might do something with Ryn if she's in the party.
I want to hold Kalysea accountable for her plotting SO bad. Not even in a sexual turn the tables way, I mean I want to slap those evil ass thoughts right out of her head.
Sadly I don't think it's something her writer is interested in. For now I'll have to settle for squinting at my screen every time she pops up.
I just remove her from the game now, I used to keep her on the off chance an option gets written, but I gave up on it and just remove her. If I want a dicked centaur wife, Alante is just fine for me.
Hashat is going into my relationship with Ryn and shit happens on her terms.
Jae lyn is going into my relationship with Daliza and vice versa and stuff happens on their terms.
Yet when the champion tries to get into anyones business you never take the reigns, either you do it their way or you don't and that's the unfairness I mentioned in my reply to punccline.
It's not an equal game, whenever they meddle with your relationship you take it like a bitch and when ever you want to steal someone else for yourself you have to be a bitch.
I'll quote what I said above
"What bothers me though is that EVERYONE is super loyal and super exclusive and only have at most threesomes on their "dominant" partners terms except for the champion, sex scenes start without your consent, characters get fucked in the background"
That was the whole point and by your reply I think you can see that.
"you did it to yourself" - No, I pinned her ass to the floor 5 times cause obviously not I'm bottoming, but she's hot, left her as the game describes near passing out and shaking, and one day i sat next to her cause she was drunk and it happened (reload save obviously), I thought she was gonna say she liked me! there was no dominant option when I had dommed her all scenes prior.
"you opened the door so you lost control" - again wrong, they are 2 super submissive characters I have around my finger, the way that just stops mattering when they are together is non sensical and poorly written in my opinion.
I was expecting scenes of you being worshipped, making jae lyn watch, double ride if you have 2 appendages a dual blow job etc.
"You're adding yourself to the mix, you're not the top dog" - exactly, but when ever an npc adds themselves to a dynamic between the champion and another they automatically become top dog and you their bitch, Arona, Brint, Evelynn, Jae lyn, Sandra and Cae you name it.
You agreed to everything I see as a gripe when playing a character that shouldn't take shit and yet constantly gets it shoved down his throat.
Edit: and yeah I meant Claire, got her name wrong, I don't care about her I just want to wife up Aurera and spoil her forever.
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Ah. That would make sense, but I don't think it makes the game explicitly anti power fantasy more so as the power fantasy just doesn't extend that far. A lot of stuff in the game still feels like a bit of a power fantasy to me — build a fort and be named baron(ess), take down an orc tribe and make their chief your bitch, end the siege on a city and win the princess's hand in marriage, etc.
Yeah there's a difference between the power fantasy of "I'm a really good fighter
" and "I saved a city and everyone cheered for me " which is great.The sort of power trip fantasy I'm against is stuff like "I'm going to conquer the world" or "I'm going to murder the gods!" -- no interest in that stuff.