Your Gripes With CoC2

NinjaTacos

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You can give any justification in universe, and it works. Personally, I am not fan of your reading since it implies that high libido and dominance are more tied/prominent in men than they are in women. It just rubs me the wrong way

It has nothing to do with men and women, except specifically the in-universe lore of marefolk, whose men are uncontrollably aggressive and libidinous.

The continual struggle within marefolk culture is the dangerous volatility of the race's males. Some tribes have been known to keep one or two males chained for the women's use, but most throw young males out of the tribe to let them live as feral "wild stallions,"... ...Marefolk know all too well the fate of their men-folk come puberty, and some tribes have sought out some way to stop their sons from going mad with lust.

IRL I don't think people with Y chromosomes are universally more libidinous or dominant than those without, even if cultural sexism makes it more acceptable for them to be. But talking specifically about one fictional race in a fictional game, marefolk males are uncontrollably horny to the point they're either thrown out of the tribe altogether, kept chained up as breeding stock, or magically altered to let them control themselves. The enchanted armour you steal and give to Brint was created to reduce the aggression of uncontrollably aggressive people, in addition to feminising them. Applied to Brint, who has functional levels of aggression, it reduces his aggression/dominance to below normal levels, in addition to switching his gender.
 
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It has nothing to do with men and women, except specifically the in-universe lore of marefolk, whose men are uncontrollably aggressive and libidinous.



IRL I don't think people with Y chromosomes are universally more libidinous or dominant than those without, even if cultural sexism makes it more acceptable for them to be. But talking specifically about one fictional race in a fictional game, marefolk males are uncontrollably horny to the point they're either thrown out of the tribe altogether, kept chained up as breeding stock, or magically altered to let them control themselves. The enchanted armour you steal and give to Brint was created to reduce the aggression of uncontrollably aggressive people, in addition to feminising them. Applied to Brint, who has functional levels of aggression, it reduces his aggression/dominance to below normal levels, in addition to switching his gender.
Oh while those may be armor's effects, I do think armor does a lot more than you proscribed, but I think we could leave it for other time.

At the end of the day, I am just a miffled at injustice of Brienne not being a man, lol.
 
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kara do you like a traditionally masculine man? genuinely curious as someone who prefers more feminine men if you have any classically masc character you like
What would your lower end of the bar be for musceline?

If we cound guys like Quin, Elyon and Tetty as feminine, then just in CoC2 I like Brint phisicaly, love King of Khorminos and I wrote Hirrud bad end because I like his design and would not mind leading Ogrish to infidelity. I like Gutz from berserk, Adult thorin from Vinland Saga, most versions of Supermen (love the TAOS design)...

There are more, especially if we start numbering actors like Will Smith andC hris Hemsworth, but I do have large prefernces in 2D for twinks/twunks/femboys owing to my little self consuming a lot of shoujo/josei/otome videa (bless PSP and later Switch) in my youth. Those tend to have a lot of prettyboys who, while they can be buff, never really go overboard like guys aimed at men do. Or at least did. Korean artist and women do like their buff hunks (though mostly one 2/3 of the same template

It is just I want to write muscular, androginous hunks since there are not a lot of them when it comes to smut is between two men. It is why I keep gushing over Yatomomin boys! That artists understands my needs of spiritual level.

TL*DR: I like most types of men, I just prefer anime pretty boys.

Cute/Soft/Pretty face+ nice bod equals me liky.
 
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I don't like how the Mad Cow quest progresses, honestly doesn't make sense. Hey let's promise Brint we'll take him to the church... and then we just don't until we get Brienne. Feels like the quest should be rewritten to give more logic as to why we aren't going to the church. Maybe change it to maybe we should ask Sanders and Vivianne? Maybe Vivianne checks it out but states that the enchantments aren't particularly malicious and seem to be making a change in Brint - stating other such artifacts generally gave their users boons, and he should be fine after a few days - giving no reason to see Sanders. Something like that.
 
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I don't like how the Mad Cow quest progresses, honestly doesn't make sense. Hey let's promise Brint we'll take him to the church... and then we just don't until we get Brienne.
A solution I like is that we take him to the church. Sanders explains that the armor will turn Brint into a woman, and then says that he can undo it, but he needs some Winterstem for the ritual. Then you have to return a second time to get the armor removed, giving two possible explanations for not doing so: 1. You ran out of time trying to find the Winterstem, so the curse was completed before you could remove it, or 2. Knowing that the armor would not do anything dangerous or irreversible, you chose to let it happen. The second explanation is still selfish and dickish, but not in an unforgivable way. In a world with easy access to body-altering potions, it's no worse than a prank that went a bit too far.
 
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I don't like how the Mad Cow quest progresses, honestly doesn't make sense. Hey let's promise Brint we'll take him to the church... and then we just don't until we get Brienne. Feels like the quest should be rewritten to give more logic as to why we aren't going to the church. Maybe change it to maybe we should ask Sanders and Vivianne? Maybe Vivianne checks it out but states that the enchantments aren't particularly malicious and seem to be making a change in Brint - stating other such artifacts generally gave their users boons, and he should be fine after a few days - giving no reason to see Sanders. Something like that.
Could not one justify that by saying that armor would not allow him to take action himself and that champion was curious where the curse would take him? I think there is enough room to RP for why one would not take action.