Your Gripes With CoC2

orropo

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my dude, there are like 61 intersex characters, hundreds of female characters, and like 72 male characters...I think YOU just have a type
 
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and before you ask how i know, someone had a similar gripe and savin said that numbers(ngl was kinda surprised males were more than intersex)
 
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I'll defend to a point that there are 3 named female marefolk npcs with one of them being intrinsic to a dickgirl (the salon). Only Atani and Zuzaan are pure female with no strings attached. I would very much like more female marefolk but would like even more for marriage/preg content for Naiyana (I'm never getting it).

That said, I take issue with the femdom comment because there is not a single femdom marefolk in the entire game with femdom in general probably being in the top 3 the least represented dynamics the game has to offer. Zuzaan is in no way a femdom just cause she's big. It's a hill I'm gonna die on.
 

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my dude, there are like 61 intersex characters, hundreds of female characters, and like 72 male characters...I think YOU just have a type
I'm pretty sure that commenter was talking about marefolk specifically although they did get Hjorr mixed in. Not sure if they knew or nkt that she is a NMino not a marefolk but I'm not page jumping to find out.
 

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I'll defend to a point that there are 3 named female marefolk npcs with one of them being intrinsic to a dickgirl (the salon). Only Atani and Zuzaan are pure female with no strings attached. I would very much like more female marefolk but would like even more for marriage/preg content for Naiyana (I'm never getting it).

That said, I take issue with the femdom comment because there is not a single femdom marefolk in the entire game with femdom in general probably being in the top 3 the least represented dynamics the game has to offer. Zuzaan is in no way a femdom just cause she's big. It's a hill I'm gonna die on.
Tbf Atani does have more content than the rest of the village put together, with the possible exception of Tarah
 

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Oh, I know that there are more men, though from what I have gathered, though a lot of them do fall into nameless NPC category of one off scene wonders.
Thats the rub with raw numbers. Though does make me wonder which of male/female/futa have the most named sexable npcs. My money is on pure female but thats due to the sheer number of harem scenes we have among the orcs, the centaurs (more Periwinkle plz) the milking barn, the magic moos, and the kitsune who aren't a harem but are mostly women.
 
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Honestly, I wish we had more futa orcs or ability to give current ones dicks.

Specifically Arona's sister. Giving the blind girl a realm of new experiences sounds fun. Plus, a threesome with the the sisters that is not locked behind getting them pregnant!

Maybe another original Orc girl with a cock. Like, I love Arona, surprisingly!, but just one smexy green Amazon ain't enough.

Also, I am so jealous of dick havers having ostensibly a harem inside of the orc camp. I want one too.
 

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Honestly, I wish we had more futa orcs or ability to give current ones dicks.

Specifically Arona's sister. Giving the blind girl a realm of new experiences sounds fun. Plus, a threesome with the the sisters that is not locked behind getting them pregnant!

Maybe another original Orc girl with a cock. Like, I love Arona, surprisingly!, but just one smexy green Amazon ain't enough.

Also, I am so jealous of dick havers having ostensibly a harem inside of the orc camp. I want one too.
They aren't named but there is the lupines for the fort.
 

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They aren't named but there is the lupines for the fort.
Nameless NPC's do not really do it for me. And they only have one on one scenes, no harem gangbangs.

And this is more so specifically talking about Orcs and how, surprisingly, with what I have learned about Savin from snippets here, there is only one dickgirl Orc who is a companion. One that I love.

As stated, I am surprisingly into Arona. Like, a lot, a lot. Something about having a strong girl like her as your sub is... ahhhhhh! And than there is mommy play and probably best PC pregnancy content in the game.

I just want to have female PCs equivalent to the scene where Arona gets jealous of her sister/some other futa Orc/Run getting us pregnant before her. And also, an equivalent to the female orgy.

...you know, maybe I should just write one Orc dickgirl myself.

Though, well, I am not sure how popular it would be here. While I love topping men, topping girls ain't my forte. Could probably just write a male version of a scene and than replace all "He"s with "She"s and get around it.
 

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Oh, I know that there are more men, though from what I have gathered, though a lot of them do fall into nameless NPC category of one off scene wonders.
I really don't go by those numbers as a result either. There may be more male than intersex in terms of raw stats, but they are not the most notable NPCs in the game outside the very few we have as companions/followers or a fox, and are typically either one-offs or NPC enemies.
The futas and shemales are talked about more than them. Because there's more to them as a whole outside of appearing or having a few scenes. It's really easy to say there are more men than bedicked women, until ya see the actual issue is those men tend to be nobodies nowadays and not really full characters or if they are they tend to be forgettable compared to the fem dicked characters who are more actualized.
 
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I might be biased by the fact that I've made a habit of feminising Brint in the middle of Act 2, and fire damage is dicey in Undermountain where some common enemies are very resistant to it. But an elemental tank feels rarer and more useful than than yet another fire-based DPS. Also I play a summoner build so I never use companions' summons.
 
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I just want to use both. Like, Brienne feels like she's constantly straddling an awkward middle ground between exactly like Brint and so dissimilar that she should be a separate character. So much time and effort has been put in to having them this way that it'd probably take too much to actually make them separate characters (though if I had a genie that mysteriously only worked with granting wishes about CoC2 and nothing else, I'd use a wish to make them separate and distinct characters). But with all of the similarities, I think instead they should just be more similar. Let them both use both elemental sets.

And I guess there's also the family stuff, where it kinda feels like you get more out of his family if you turn him into a her, but that's less of a concern than the two sets.
 

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I really don't go by those numbers as a result either. There may be more male than intersex in terms of raw stats, but they are not the most notable NPCs in the game outside the very few we have as companions/followers or a fox, and are typically either one-offs or NPC enemies.
The futas and shemales are talked about more than them. Because there's more to them as a whole outside of appearing or having a few scenes. It's really easy to say there are more men than bedicked women, until ya see the actual issue is those men tend to be nobodies nowadays and not really full characters or if they are they tend to be forgettable compared to the fem dicked characters who are more actualized.
I agree, but in my case I want more of both, tbh. Well, thankfully, it seems community wants to added content for male lovers, so that is nice.

Tetty got some, corrupt Lupines just got implemented, and Odocar seems good for all the bi/gay tops out here.

Like, Brienne feels like she's constantly straddling an awkward middle ground between exactly like Brint
Oh, I agree Bring tends to get shafted, but I do not really think that he overlap's much with Brienne. Personally, to me they feel like totally different characters.

Part of me wonders why Brint is a huge slut while Brienne is not. I would think that, to reduce the workload, it would be much easier if both of them were either champ focused or whores. They could have even shared scenes. Just replace Brint's dick with a strap-on for topping content.
 
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I haven't had a playthrough where I haven't feminised them, but to be honest it's never an easy choice, but for the wrong reasons.

Brienne suffers with being underwhelming for female players. She has two lesbian sex scenes - one where you eat her out and one where she eats you out. She has no mutual-pleasure scenes for a female champ. Which I hate; reciprocity is a big part of my enjoying a porn scene, so essentially Brienne has no sex scenes in her companion menu that interest me. It gives me the (presumably false) impression that she was written almost exclusively to be a broodmare for dick-wielding champs.

Brint on the other hand suffers for having so much less family content - particularly where Rina is concerned. To be honest, domme-Rina is probably my favourite part of Bri's total content. But contrasting to Brienne, Brint's sex scenes for a femchamp are great - there aren't many male characters I'll sleep with, but Brint is a strong exception; his scenes are brilliantly sexy. Though I'm turned off of his pregnancy content by the way his kids are just numbers in the nursery - Arona gets that one randomly proccing scene where she's playing with one of her babies, and as little as it is, it makes a substantial difference to me to at least get that much.

So I think I really only feminise them because A. it's one of the few ways he gets any character development, and B. it's the only way to make Rina dom me.

Part of me wonders why Brint is a huge slut while Brienne is not. I would think that, to reduce the workload, it would be much easier if both of them were either champ focused or whores. They could have even shared scenes. Just replace Brint's dick with a strap-on for topping content.

I can see the logic in this; the armour that caused their transformation was designed to turn lust-mad, hyper-aggressive stallionfolk into functioning members of marefolk society. Brint, while naturally dominant and libidinous, still started with substantially less aggression and self-control than the stallions, so got dialled down to be significantly more submissive and meek than the armour's makers intended. From my perspective, Brienne desperately needs more lesbian sex scenes (one or two would be something, though some of the creativity and variety that went into Brint's vast array of scenes would be amazing), and if some of these involved me buying her a big, latex, horse cock strap-on in Khor'Minos and it letting her tap into a little of her latent dominance, I would be very content. That would be a really redeeming factor for her. Though not having to give up my favourite of Brint's sets would be a close second.



...Also I never know if her name is meant to be pronounced Bree-enn or Bry-enn, and this bothers me far more than it should. :confused:
 
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You can give any justification in universe, and it works. Personally, I am not fan of your reading since it implies that high libido and dominance are more tied/prominent in men than they are in women. It just rubs me the wrong way

Nevertheless, I am talking more so from meta perspective. By writing Brienne and Brint as two separate NPCs, you increase your workload. Doing it like one would do Lyric or Berwyn expansion seems like more logical option.

I understand that from meta perspective, Brienne would be nowhere near as popular or well loved if she was like Brint, but than why not write Brint as Brienne. I think people would like a devoted husband.
 
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I am talking more so from meta perspective. By writing Brienne and Brint as two separate NPCs, you increase your workload. Doing it like one would do Lyric or Berwyn expansion seems like more logical option.

I understand that from meta perspective, Brienne would be nowhere near as popular or well loved if she was like Brint, but than why not write Brint as Brienne. I think people would like a devoted husband.
Well Brienne isn't just female Brint, she is appealing to the feminizing kink. Take male character change to female and make them more submissive.
 

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Well Brienne isn't just female Brint, she is appealing to the feminizing kink. Take male character change to female and make them more submissive.
I understand that, but I think it doesn't quite work in a game like CoC2. Since you can also fuck Brint, it makes it so that, if you are someone like me who (probably?) prefers men but also preferred more loyal types of NPCs like Brienne, it just makes me go "wow, I am getting worst side of a deal."

Imagine if we still had our Cait, but than we also got a male Cait that is monogamous and is only interested in the champ. People would not be happy, I would assume.
 

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You can give any justification in universe, and it works. Personally, I am not fan of your reading since it implies that high libido and dominance are more tied/prominent in men than they are in women. It just rubs me the wrong way
I think this is canonically true for marefolk though?
 
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Karakara

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I think this is canonically true for marefolk though?
Ehhhh, less libido sure. But I do not think they become less dominant. Just less rapey and able to rationaly think. Of course, we do not have many horsegirls with dicks to compare. And Brint is a minotaur. And we have Octavia who is still a dominant lass.
 

Lostname475

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Given that the armour was made by and for marefolk it kinda makes sense that it reduces libido while it feminises though.
 

Karakara

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Given that the armour was made by and for marefolk it kinda makes sense that it reduces libido while it feminises though.
Oh, sure. It still doesn't make sense to me that it would also make one less sluty, monogamous, submissive and champ obsessive, no?
 

Lostname475

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That's possibly a reason the mares stopped using it? Or an effect that brint gets due to not being a marefolk using it
 

Karakara

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Yeah, honestly, I also just throw it being cursed armor. I do not mind that part.

I mostly mind that we can't have male Brienne, tbh. Loving, submissive beefcake. Give him a pretty, non bovine face, and you have me entirely!