Which species is best at fucking and which at war.

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Because apparently my brain is made of random-nonsensical-questionium these questions popped into my head and I can't get it out.

First which species do you think is the best at fucking, I am talking naturally so no mods like the treatment and no technology. Second which of the space faring species do you think would win in an all out war. EDIT 1: I am talking all technology allowed, all out no holds barred battle to extinction.

For me the best fuck goes to the Suula due to the aphrodisiac stingers. EDIT 1: I somehow forgot about the Galotian and to a lesser degree the Rhan despite them being in my top 5 favourite races, Galotian is typically my number 1.

While for war I would go with either the Gryvain or Humans. The Gryvain according to the codex have "starship technology, equal to or slightly better than that of most Confederate member states". While Humans are humans and is noted in the codex that "Galactic opinion is still varied on whether or not surviving that stage of their development was a good thing." that stage being us creating weapons of mass destruction like nukes. Which we seem to be the only race other than the Myr to do.

As for why I don't say the Ausar, while they seem to be the most technologically advanced race according to the codex "Their technology... is well-known to be vulnerable to security breaches. More than once, a powerful Ausar fleet or financial institute has been decimated by a skilled hacker".

EDIT 1: I was originally only thinking about space battles for the war, but since people seem to be talking about ground battle I'll add that in with 2 conditions. First no robot/drone armies because then it just becomes a contest of who can build more. Second Frostwryms are allowed but they are limited to Frosty itself and 100 kids as that is the condition for the good/bad end in game.
 
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Imho I prefer Gabliani what with their excellent vaginal muscle control.
 

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That's really a subjective question.

For example, someone might say that the Ausar are designed for sex, with the females having a vagina meant to accommodate large dicks and for knotting. They also get extremely wet. Then you have the males, with a knot that can heighten the experience by locking them with a partner.

Then you have the Gryvain. Being a hermaphrodite race, they get the best of both worlds. However, while the Gryvain genitalia lacks a clitoris, they do have a number of nubs formed into rings that act like the clitoris.

The list goes on, each race is going to have something unique about sex and something that will appeal to partners.

Now, onto war. The rule has always been and will always be - technology wins.

The Gryvain might have advanced plasma and laser weapons, but they don't have much of a standing military. This is vital, because even a well trained volunteer military force will always be better than conscripts or a hastily assembled militia.

Granted, the Ausar can be prone to a hacker, but by the same token, they have some of the best shields in the galaxy. They also have one of the largest and most powerful fleets in the galaxy, through the Joint Ausar Federation. And to be honest, in space, wars are won in space.

Humans are inventive, we've had to be, considering that we have little in the way of natural defences other than our hands and teeth. We're also a species whose species thrives by one of two means - exploration and war. When there's conflict, technology leaps ahead.

Leithans, we don't know much about how they fight, but considering their natural armour and their ability to move over natural terrain, if they were equipped with heavy weapons, one Leithan could easily match the firepower of a squad.

Saurmorians, from what we know, they prefer to make war that is loud and packs a big bang. They're ships are essentially flying bricks, slow but durable and pack a wallop.

The Suula military are more a defensive force, with only a handful of ships to guard against pirates.

The Thraggens might be the single largest threat to the rest of the galaxy, due to their brutal nature and offensive capabilities. Especially considering that the last war with the Thraggen resulted in a dozen scorched worlds and a low estimate of 50 billion dead.
 

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The Thraggens might be the single largest threat to the rest of the galaxy, due to their brutal nature and offensive capabilities. Especially considering that the last war with the Thraggen resulted in a dozen scorched worlds and a low estimate of 50 billion dead.

Yeah but the Thraggen homeworld has been blockaded entirely, nothing gets in or out, and they aren't allowed to build warships so that kinda removes them from the warpath.

I'll say, best species for sex would be the venus pitchers. Tentacles, aphrodisiacs, spores, good smell, soft petal-like skin. They evolved for fucking after all. Although galotians would be a very close second.

And for war, gotta go with humans. The game says Ausars would be the most powerful force, but the still have monarchs, with their own agendas and their own problems. So the Joint Ausar Fleet will be much less powerful on practice than in theory. Meanwhile, humans are second to the Ausar, with the advantage of being more warlike and much more unified.
 

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Yeah but the Thraggen homeworld has been blockaded entirely, nothing gets in or out, and they aren't allowed to build warships so that kinda removes them from the warpath.
Still though, the fact that the war they instigated caused so much devastation does indicate that when they wage war, they are brutal. Brutal enough to keep blockaded and under watch.
 

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As for war, what kind of scenario are we talking about here?

For a day of the rope kind of scenario I gotta agree, humans hands down. The Thraggen had their chance and they failed. The Ausar come a close second.
 

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Wait 200 years and the Red Myr will best at fucking AND fighting. :p

For now, though, gryvain are top draggos.
 

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I've gotta put my money on Galotians for sex, as they can become literally anything they want at the "cost" of having a goo-like texture. That puts them FAR beyond the other races in terms of their potential for sex in my personal opinion while minimizing the aspects of them that could be seen as weaknesses to certain people.

For war, however, I've gotta side with the home team.
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The Ausar are probably the most concerning enemy due to their advanced technology, but being SPECIFICALLY so vulnerable to hackers that it's a significant enough component of their culture to warrant a place in the Codex entry about their entire species as a whole is just flat out not something you can have in a war under any circumstances, even if their technology is moderately better than the rest of the universe's. Also, keep in mind that their technology is both only moderately superior to the rest of the galaxy's and that they freely trade that technology with other races (especially humans, who they have a close relationship with). It's not like they'd just show up with completely invincible shields and T-pose on the rest of the galaxy to assert dominance unless someone hacked them first. It would still be a very long, drawn out war that would give them plenty of time to be weakened as multiple technological attacks kept pilling up on them if we're putting them up against the other highly advanced races. As such, I can't really see them coming out on top, despite their many advantages.

The Thraggen, like multiple people have said before, are currently blockaded and simply have no chance at putting up a realistic war effort any time soon. There's also the fact that they did their majority of their damage before the UGC actually rallied a legitimate military force against them, which leads me to believe that they wouldn't stand much of a chance against the main technologically-advanced races in the galaxy if their opponent's were serious about eliminating them from the very beginning instead of focusing on rescuing the prisoners.

The Gryvain, while one of the most technologically advanced races out there and far and away one of the most physically powerful, are called out in the codex as having "notably lacking military technology" and don't even have a standing military. Training and unity are absolutely vital to winning wars, especially if they're taking place in space with advanced technology, so I doubt they'd manage to emerge victorious.

After those three, there really aren't any other race in the TiTS universe that stand out from the crowd in terms of technology or general military might, and the ones that do have very obvious weaknesses designed entirely to make them stand out as a race in the game, like the Saurmorian's tendency to ONLY use classically "heavy weapons" or the Anatae's Communist-like culture and restrictive attitude towards individuality and development.

As such, I'm throwing my lot in with humans if it really did come to galactic war. We're one of the leading technological races out there, have no specific weaknesses because we've spent our entire existence compensating for them and encourage individuality and innovation for the most part (and it's not like a human is going to have to fight a Gryvain buck naked in a space battle anyway), and we're also a species that is VERY used to war and highly efficient at doing it. There's also the important fact that, if we're fighting aliens for our survival as a species (which I assume is what we're fighting for, as the context of war matters a LOT. I assume we're just taking the "death battle" approach here and assuming every race is operating at peak efficiency with no confounding variables to see who would win most often), that would mean that we'd both be unified as a species for the first time in human history and able to throw out a lot of the limiting factors that we placed on ourselves in order to help promote longer-lasting peace. Those last two points might not be applicable depending on the context of the war, but even if I threw them out, I'd still put my money on humans coming out on top simply because of how well rounded and efficient we are when all other races either have a crippling weakness ripe for exploitation or are just purely inferior to us technologically with no way to close that gap due to our lack of such an exploitable weakness.
 
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I've gotta put my money on Galotians for sex, as they can become literally anything they want at the "cost" of having a goo-like texture. That puts them FAR beyond the other races in terms of their potential for sex in my personal opinion while minimizing the aspects of them that could be seen as weaknesses to certain people.

For war, however, I've gotta side with the home team.
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The Ausar are probably the most concerning enemy due to their advanced technology, but being SPECIFICALLY so vulnerable to hackers that it's a significant enough component of their culture to warrant a place in the Codex entry about their entire species as a whole is just flat out not something you can have in a war under any circumstances, even if their technology is moderately better than the rest of the universe's. Also, keep in mind that their technology is both only moderately superior to the rest of the galaxy's and that they freely trade that technology with other races (especially humans, who they have a close relationship with). It's not like they'd just show up with completely invincible shields and T-pose on the rest of the galaxy to assert dominance unless someone hacked them first. It would still be a very long, drawn out war that would give them plenty of time to be weakened as multiple technological attacks kept pilling up on them if we're putting them up against the other highly advanced races. As such, I can't really see them coming out on top, despite their many advantages.

The Thraggen, like multiple people have said before, are currently blockaded and simply have no chance at putting up a realistic war effort any time soon. There's also the fact that they did their majority of their damage before the UGC actually rallied a legitimate military force against them, which leads me to believe that they wouldn't stand much of a chance against the main technologically-advanced races in the galaxy if their opponent's were serious about eliminating them from the very beginning instead of focusing on rescuing the prisoners.

The Gryvain, while one of the most technologically advanced races out there and far and away one of the most physically powerful, are called out in the codex as having "notably lacking military technology" and don't even have a standing military. Training and unity are absolutely vital to winning wars, especially if they're taking place in space with advanced technology, so I doubt they'd manage to emerge victorious.

After those three, there really aren't any other race in the TiTS universe that stand out from the crowd in terms of technology or general military might, and the ones that do have very obvious weaknesses designed entirely to make them stand out as a race in the game, like the Saurmorian's tendency to ONLY use classically "heavy weapons" or the Anatae's Communist-like culture and restrictive attitude towards individuality and development.

As such, I'm throwing my lot in with humans if it really did come to galactic war. We're one of the leading technological races out there, have no specific weaknesses because we've spent our entire existence compensating for them and encourage individuality and innovation for the most part (and it's not like a human is going to have to fight a Gryvain buck naked in a space battle anyway), and we're also a species that is VERY used to war and highly efficient at doing it. There's also the important fact that, if we're fighting aliens for our survival as a species (which I assume is what we're fighting for, as the context of war matters a LOT. I assume we're just taking the "death battle" approach here and assuming every race is operating at peak efficiency with no confounding variables to see who would win most often), that would mean that we'd both be unified as a species for the first time in human history and able to throw out a lot of the limiting factors that we placed on ourselves in order to help promote longer-lasting peace. Those last two points might not be applicable depending on the context of the war, but even if I threw them out, I'd still put my money on humans coming out on top simply because of how well rounded and efficient we are when all other races either have a crippling weakness ripe for exploitation or are just purely inferior to us technologically with no way to close that gap due to our lack of such an exploitable weakness.

Fantasy 101, humans are baseline and well rounded, everyone else is humans with a gimmick.
 

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Fantasy 101, humans are baseline and well rounded, everyone else is humans with a gimmick.
That was not by choice. TSR had to make concessions in order to continue selling AD&D source books. One of them stipulating that fantasy races could not be depicted as superior to humans. A pointless thing to add to the conversation, but I feel it should be mentioned.
 
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A human without technology is one of the weakest things I can imagine in our weight range. Even something as technologically primitive as a sharpened stick is so ingrained into human instinct that it's hard to imagine humans surviving at all without some form of tool or constructed apparatus. Purely biologically speaking species like the gryvain or leithan will win out every time in war or combat IMO.

But bring tech into the mix? An AI behind the wheel can control an endless robot army for as long as resources are available that doesn't need to eat, breathe, drink, sleep, is lethally efficient and can kill things with mechanical strength alone, and can be rigged with an explosive device that goes off if they are tampered with behind enemy lines. With a technological singularity leading to endless upgrades and ever increasing advancement, no species will stand a chance. Whatever species designs such a thing will conquer all others unless another is made by the opposing side at which point the better designed AI with the most resources wins. Unfortunately it will likely lead to their own demise as well if they can't control it, which may lead to an independent "species" that is a reproducing mechanical remnant of a species that once existed. It will probably be humans or the gabilani. The ausar are not good candidates for this sort of thing. Yes, superior advanced AI, but weak to being hacked and destroyed AI.

If technological fucking is out of the question then probably the venus pitcher or galotians. But again, bring tech in and an AI will design ever better, more efficient, and more pleasurable fucking machines as time goes on with the gradual gathering of data, so it would be better at fucking as well and completely crushes the biological competition.

Down with the squishies, am I right?
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If you're going without tech....

Gryvain can't use their flying advantage on most planets without tech supporting them, and Leithans would need weapons to make up for their body limitations. Saurmorians are a good bet for war, since they have good defense and strength.

But then there are Galotians. No need for atmosphere and basically impervious to attack. They could smother others to death or turn off a ship's life support systems.
 

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If you're going without tech....

Gryvain can't use their flying advantage on most planets without tech supporting them, and Leithans would need weapons to make up for their body limitations. Saurmorians are a good bet for war, since they have good defense and strength.

But then there are Galotians. No need for atmosphere and basically impervious to attack. They could smother others to death or turn off a ship's life support systems.

Thank goodness that most Galotians are closer to Celise then Roz.

My picks for best fuckers: Raskvel. Treated don't count, it's a mod. I would wager that the Laquines and Gryvains are up there too.

War: hmmm... is that a trick question? Hand to hand? Saurmorian or Leithan. Most species are going up against them would be like feather weights taking on heavies. Frostwyrm if you really wanna be unfair. Space based? Who has the best supply infrastructure/logistics? Probably Ausar or Humans.
 

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I feel like a absolute moron that I forgot about the Galotians and to a lesser degree the Rahn for top fuckers in the galaxy* considering they are my favourite race. Also yer the war question is all out no holds barred battle to extinction with tech so it is mainly going to be fought in space. Though it might be interesting who would win on the ground, tech is allowed but no robot armies because thats just boring. Also if you bring in the Frostwrym it is limited to Frosty itself and 100 kids as that is the condition for the good/bad ending.

*I didn't mean to pun but leaving it in anyway.
 

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Well then... we humans seem to have no problems nuking things from orbit if the "spider in the my house" jokes are any indication of our psychology. Space is a playground for nukes. Nukes for days, years even. Glass Myrellion like it's nothing.
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Or you can skip skip the flashy fireworks and have the ausar put a gate right next to the event horizon of a black hole and another in front of whatever they want removed from existence and open that sucker up remotely for instant win.
 

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Or you can skip skip the flashy fireworks and have the ausar put a gate right next to the event horizon of a black hole and another in front of whatever they want removed from existence and open that sucker up remotely for instant win.

That wouldn't really work, first of all you'll have to deliver the gate so if you can deliver it that means you've already beaten their defenses. Even if you somehow manage to sneak it, considering how black holes work, the effect wouldn't be instant, it'd take an eternity for the gate to even open, considering how time dilation works.
 
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War: hmmm... is that a trick question? Hand to hand? Saurmorian or Leithan. Most species are going up against them would be like feather weights taking on heavies.
It's been proven plenty before, size doesn't make a fighter, even in pro boxing they've had people fight above their weight class and win. Still, those Saurmorians are tough, and it might prove challenging to mount an unwilling Leithan to gain the upper hand.

However, Leithan's with tech are basically incredibly mobile cannons, or the equivalent of a heavy mounted cavalry with lances and armor. Saurmorians are powerful and tough, but I'd wager it wouldn't be hard to beat them with freezing weapons, since I believe that's a stated weakness in the codex, and their own signature hammers are designed to kill each other. In the same vein, Galotians are probably not resistant to laser fire. As an army we're told that Ausar link their shields together so they're stronger based on how many people they have, essentially becoming the sci-fi Phalanx, and they can easily access weaponry designed to target enemy weakness.

Or you can skip skip the flashy fireworks and have the ausar put a gate right next to the event horizon of a black hole and another in front of whatever they want removed from existence and open that sucker up remotely for instant win.
Modern Ausar actually know very little about the gates, which is why Anno proposed the tests that got Syri and her CO fusterclucked. Also what Thebiologist said.
 

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That wouldn't really work, first of all you'll have to deliver the gate so if you can deliver it that means you've already beaten their defenses. Even if you somehow manage to sneak it, considering how black holes work, the effect wouldn't be instant, it'd take an eternity for the gate to even open, considering how time dilation works.
Swarm of tiny gates around a star that are all calibrated to lead to a single gate with a single-sided output and mounted on a capital ship? Solar cannon essentially?
 

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Planetside warfare these guys
In turn humanity and ausar found both the militancy of anatae culture and the rapidity of their colonization deeply alarming. Matters had reached an almost cold war-like state when the thraggen were discovered.

The anatae served with distinction during the galactic war, their belief in self-sacrifice leading them to stubbornly hold the front line against the thraggen with a numerically inferior navy, whilst the ausar mustered the decisive counter attack behind lines. Relatively speaking the anatae suffered more casualties than any other U.G.C. race during the war, a badge they wear with a mixture of pride and embarrassment to this day. Although memories of the war have long since faded, ties between the U.G.C. and the Anatae Empire have remained cordial if occasionally strained ever since, largely kept in place by the Galactic Rush Treaty. The anatae retain the largest and most modern land army in the galaxy; if the U.G.C. were ever threatened again, a significant proportion of the ground-side response would come from them.
 

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In turn humanity and ausar found both the militancy of anatae culture and the rapidity of their colonization deeply alarming. Matters had reached an almost cold war-like state when the thraggen were discovered.

The anatae served with distinction during the galactic war, their belief in self-sacrifice leading them to stubbornly hold the front line against the thraggen with a numerically inferior navy, whilst the ausar mustered the decisive counter attack behind lines. Relatively speaking the anatae suffered more casualties than any other U.G.C. race during the war, a badge they wear with a mixture of pride and embarrassment to this day. Although memories of the war have long since faded, ties between the U.G.C. and the Anatae Empire have remained cordial if occasionally strained ever since, largely kept in place by the Galactic Rush Treaty. The anatae retain the largest and most modern land army in the galaxy; if the U.G.C. were ever threatened again, a significant proportion of the ground-side response would come from them.
Oh, I totally forgot about that. Good find.
 

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A human without technology is one of the weakest things I can imagine in our weight range.

Although Humans might not possess the sheer strength that our primate relatives (just for the closest analogy and nearest weight range), there are a few things to remember.
1 - We can stand up straight. That doesn't sound like much, but because of this, the majority of our muscle mass has shifted from the neck and shoulders to the lower back and thighs. This has the bonus of meaning we don't require much energy to move around and we are quite stable. Humans were originally persistence hunters, we'd wound prey and slowly chase it down until it died of exhaustion and through the minor injuries incurred on it. We also have a cooling system that covers our entire body, we sweat, meaning that we can keep going for longer. Even animals we think of possessing high levels of endurance don't possess the potential that we do. Horses drop from exhaustion and canines overheat.
2 - Because we can stand up straight, we don't possesses the sheer upper body strength that, say a chimpanzee has, but we have a greater range of motion in our arms can throw shit better than anyone else in our family tree. Even an out of shape adult male can throw a ball at around 70mph, a trained athlete's throw can reach 100mph. The bone structure in our hands is also what allows us to manipulate objects better than other apes. Even a small rock can be deadly.
3 - We have some of the densest muscle of any land animal, to the point where the only animals that can consistently outweigh a human male are lions, polar bears, grizzly bears and tigers. We might not pack much of a punch, but we can most fastest, turn better and avoid than others. We can climb, swim and run. We don't excel in one particular area, but we can do quite well in all three.
4 - Even without technology, Humanity has managed to survive almost every type of environment on Earth, we've colonised every continent except Antarctica. And we've endured Ice Ages, global pandemics, natural disasters and at least one near extinction event that killed all but 10,000 of our ancestors. Basically, we are adaptable. We can eat a lot of food that other species find poisonous, in some instances we do it to add flavour or for recreational purposes (ghost chillies anyone?).
5 - Humans have mental blocks that mean we only use about a fifth of our potential muscular strength. In extreme survival situations, we can get rid of those blocks and become absolutely vicious. At the cost of disintegrating bone and liquefying muscle.

Humans might not be much to look at without technology, but then again, we've always been punching above our weight and winning too.

Swarm of tiny gates around a star that are all calibrated to lead to a single gate with a single-sided output and mounted on a capital ship? Solar cannon essentially?

You'd still need to get close to the target. In ground based combat, a near miss could mean a projectile missing a target by inches. In space based combat, a near miss could mean missing the target by thousands of kilometres.
 

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Although Humans might not possess the sheer strength that our primate relatives (just for the closest analogy and nearest weight range), there are a few things to remember.
1 - We can stand up straight. That doesn't sound like much, but because of this, the majority of our muscle mass has shifted from the neck and shoulders to the lower back and thighs. This has the bonus of meaning we don't require much energy to move around and we are quite stable. Humans were originally persistence hunters, we'd wound prey and slowly chase it down until it died of exhaustion and through the minor injuries incurred on it. We also have a cooling system that covers our entire body, we sweat, meaning that we can keep going for longer. Even animals we think of possessing high levels of endurance don't possess the potential that we do. Horses drop from exhaustion and canines overheat.
2 - Because we can stand up straight, we don't possesses the sheer upper body strength that, say a chimpanzee has, but we have a greater range of motion in our arms can throw shit better than anyone else in our family tree. Even an out of shape adult male can throw a ball at around 70mph, a trained athlete's throw can reach 100mph. The bone structure in our hands is also what allows us to manipulate objects better than other apes. Even a small rock can be deadly.
3 - We have some of the densest muscle of any land animal, to the point where the only animals that can consistently outweigh a human male are lions, polar bears, grizzly bears and tigers. We might not pack much of a punch, but we can most fastest, turn better and avoid than others. We can climb, swim and run. We don't excel in one particular area, but we can do quite well in all three.
4 - Even without technology, Humanity has managed to survive almost every type of environment on Earth, we've colonised every continent except Antarctica. And we've endured Ice Ages, global pandemics, natural disasters and at least one near extinction event that killed all but 10,000 of our ancestors. Basically, we are adaptable. We can eat a lot of food that other species find poisonous, in some instances we do it to add flavour or for recreational purposes (ghost chillies anyone?).
5 - Humans have mental blocks that mean we only use about a fifth of our potential muscular strength. In extreme survival situations, we can get rid of those blocks and become absolutely vicious. At the cost of disintegrating bone and liquefying muscle.

Humans might not be much to look at without technology, but then again, we've always been punching above our weight and winning too.

You also forget that the vast majority of sentient aliens in TiTS are humanoid meaning advantages 1 and 2 also apply to them. Advantage 3 and 5 also applies to a large number of the humanoid although not as many as 1 and 2.
Although i believe we can all agree that all five apply to the Thraggen.
 

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You also forget that the vast majority of sentient aliens in TiTS are humanoid meaning advantages 1 and 2 also apply to them. Advantage 3 and 5 also applies to a large number of the humanoid although not as many as 1 and 2.
Although i believe we can all agree that all five apply to the Thraggen.

Not necessarily.

Different biological needs can produce similar results. That's the concept of convergent evolution. For example, sharks and dolphins have a similar appearance at a distance, but have different biological needs and have evolved in a similar manner to accommodate those needs. Likewise, a humanoid shape doesn't necessarily confer the same advantages between species. Yes, it seems like it is a successful form of locomotion in the setting, but its not the only one, the existence Leithans prove that.

We're not given a lot of biological information about other races, about the upper limits of what they can lift, about if they can sweat and dissipate heat like we can. We can only confer what we know about ourselves. I wasn't saying Humans were better than other races, but rather that Humans are better than we think of ourselves, we're not helpless because we're naked, we pretty much conquered the planet before we invented pants.
 
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Not necessarily.

Different biological needs can produce similar results. That's the concept of convergent evolution. For example, sharks and dolphins have a similar appearance at a distance, but have different biological needs and have evolved in a similar manner to accommodate those needs. Likewise, a humanoid shape doesn't necessarily confer the same advantages between species. Yes, it seems like it is a successful form of locomotion in the setting, but its not the only one, the existence Leithans prove that.

We're not given a lot of biological information about other races, about the upper limits of what they can lift, about if they can sweat and dissipate heat like we can. We can only confer what we know about ourselves. I wasn't saying Humans were better than other races, but rather that Humans are better than we think of ourselves, we're not helpless because we're naked, we pretty much conquered the planet before we invented pants.
Anno's workout routine is very human, so I'd wager the Ausar at least are capable of the same things.
 

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Fair enough, but again, missing the point I was trying to make about Humans.
 

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Which is the result of mass genetic modification to ensure the survival of the original New Texas colony.

The original Treatment versus what's currently offered are still quite different.

Still the varmits are tough mothers. Would hate (love) to see some cloned Super Varmits sometime.