What we would like to see related to the Dragon TF

Alliebutt

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Ngl. I was hoping this recent update to include the Dragon TF since they mentioned that they recently started working on it.
It takes the time it takes. What you need to remember, is the fact that they only started writing it then, at which point they would have to code it afterwards.
 

Karakara

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Even the soul bound TFs barely get a reaction either.
Kitsune den is filled with small interactions to large scene changes if you are one or not. Frankly, Tobs does tend to go above and beyond in giving player illusion that being being the champion of Keros is kind of big deal. Not sure about being Valk, but I guess it would be not worth it from what I have heard. Barely anyone aknowledges it, and it doesn't seem to be presented as all that important. Especially since, unlike Keros, there are dozen of others. Which just beats the purpose of being one, in my opinion.
Edit: Yes, I know that it makes sense for Lumine to have number of winged warriors. But I hope you get what I mean.

PS: What is so special about being a dragon. I am out of loop.
 
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Alliebutt

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Kitsune den is filled with small interactions to large scene changes if you are one or not. Frankly, Tobs does tend to go above and beyond in giving player illusion that being being the champion of Keros is kind of big deal. Not sure about being Valk, but I guess it would be not worth it from what I have heard. Barely anyone aknowledges it, and it doesn't seem to be presented as all that important. Especially since, unlike Keros, there are dozen of others. Which just beats the purpose of being one, in my opinion.
Edit: Yes, I know that it makes sense for Lumine to have number of winged warriors. But I hope you get what I mean.

PS: What is so special about being a dragon. I am out of loop.
There isn't really anything special about it, especially considering you're not actually a dragon, but a dragon-morph. Apparently it will get acknowledged by some people in the same way a soul-bind would, but aside from that it doesn't seem like it's all that 'special' so to speak. At the end of the day, the value it has comes down to the individual player. Some players are keen to stay one specific race throughout the game and as such gives high value to specific TFs, and in that sense the dragon-morph TF just appeals to the people that want to be a half-ish dragon thingie.
 

Karakara

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Damn... So we are less special then Evelyn... Still strange how that expansion was handled. Also, why doesn't Azy become as powerful as her?
 
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Alliebutt

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Damn... So we are less special then Evelyn... Still strange how that expansion was handled. Also, why doesn't Azy become as powerful as her?
I'd argue in a lot of ways we're far more special than she is, but that isn't limited to the dragon TF. Keep in mind that as far as I'm aware, Evelyn isn't actually a dragon either. She gets some of their powers from the weapon, and her appearance changes to match, but the same can be said about the MC when they do the TF. Evelyn is to my knowledge essentially a dragon-morph as well.
 

Karakara

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It's just sometimes It feels like there a lot people that could end this whole Kas debacle, but they just choose not to. Kind of makes Kas as threat seem all that less threatening.

Which also seems to be the case for Evelyn. She can take three on one challenge, yet then she does nothing with that power.
 

Alliebutt

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It's just sometimes It feels like there a lot people that could end this whole Kas debacle, but they just choose not to. Kind of makes Kas as threat seem all that less threatening.

Which also seems to be the case for Evelyn. She can take three on one challenge, yet then she does nothing with that power.
Eh, that isn't really a COC2 problem. That's a lot of RPG games problem.
 

HK-47

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Even if you give yourself Dragon Breath, you still can't use it until you're lvl 10 and we can only get to lvl 7 for now.
You absolutely can use it, you just have to use the save editor to place it in one of your active power slots. Make a save file with a slot open, then load up & add the power. I’m using it on my black mage character right now.
 

Alliebutt

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You absolutely can use it, you just have to use the save editor to place it in one of your active power slots. Make a save file with a slot open, then load up & add the power. I’m using it on my black mage character right now.
That's still not classified as actually being able to use it. To do that, you're cheating to achieve it. Something a lot of people won't bother with, for a lot of different individual reasons. So no, you cannot use it until level 10, unless you actively go out of your way to cheat the system.
 

HK-47

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That's still not classified as actually being able to use it. To do that, you're cheating to achieve it. Something a lot of people won't bother with, for a lot of different individual reasons. So no, you cannot use it until level 10, unless you actively go out of your way to cheat the system.
Well, if said people want to be precious about save editing in a single player porn game, that’s their prerogative.

I was simply offering a solution for those who want to use the power now.
 

Alliebutt

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Well, if said people want to be precious about save editing in a single player porn game, that’s their prerogative.

I was simply offering a solution for those who want to use the power now.
No need to be condescending about it. For most people it isn't about being 'precious' or keeping their game 'pure' it's often just a matter of them either not knowing save editing is a thing, or because they can't be bothered to do it, hell they might just not want to risk borking their saves.
 

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There isn't really anything special about it, especially considering you're not actually a dragon, but a dragon-morph. Apparently it will get acknowledged by some people in the same way a soul-bind would, but aside from that it doesn't seem like it's all that 'special' so to speak. At the end of the day, the value it has comes down to the individual player. Some players are keen to stay one specific race throughout the game and as such gives high value to specific TFs, and in that sense the dragon-morph TF just appeals to the people that want to be a half-ish dragon thingie.
dam was really hoping for a full dragon form that could shift into a humanoid form for the sex scenes to get around the whole four legs and stuff.
 

Alliebutt

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dam was really hoping for a full dragon form that could shift into a humanoid form for the sex scenes to get around the whole four legs and stuff.
As cool as that would be, dragons are functionality extinct.
 

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Since the party in Khor'minos has a Dragon skull and they mentions it a few times. I can see some special interaction for a Draconic PC who arrives at the party and everyone getting stunned to see a living dragon that they all thought were extinct at that point and maybe even get a little nervous when they talk about the dragon skull and slaying dragons or stuff related to them.
 

Alliebutt

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Since the party in Khor'minos has a Dragon skull and they mentions it a few times. I can see some special interaction for a Draconic PC who arrives at the party and everyone getting stunned to see a living dragon that they all thought were extinct at that point and maybe even get a little nervous when they talk about the dragon skull and slaying dragons or stuff related to them.
The player isn't s dragon. Dragons are still extinct. The player is simply a dragon-MORPH.
 

Ace Hangman

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Since the party in Khor'minos has a Dragon skull and they mentions it a few times. I can see some special interaction for a Draconic PC who arrives at the party and everyone getting stunned to see a living dragon that they all thought were extinct at that point and maybe even get a little nervous when they talk about the dragon skull and slaying dragons or stuff related to them.
Does Ashlander have any comments if she's present?
 

Alliebutt

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Close enough!

Not really? I mean, Lupine probably won't have an issue with killing wolves, and Foxen likely wouldn't have a problem killing foxes. It's essentially the same situation, even if dragons are sentient beings. The MC isn't a dragon, and as such it would be unlikely to matter. Sure the devs might add custom reactions to it if they really want to which I wouldn't be opposed to, but to me it's two completely different creatures at the end of the day, so to me personally it wouldn't really matter. At most the MC looks semi draconic, but most people at the party likely wouldn't even know that appearance comes from draconic blood having transformed them, so would be unlikely to change their behavior. Should the MC react differently? I'd argue not, since they aren't a dragon, hell they aren't even a half dragon either, so they have no real horse in that race besides common decency born from possibly having met an actual dragon and as such have a bias against killing dragons. And an MC could've met a dragon regardless of if they're a dragon-morph or not, so that bias wouldn't even inherently be born from that transformation.