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<blockquote data-quote="Stemwinder" data-source="post: 323951" data-attributes="member: 23736"><p>Anyway, the idea I wanted to convey is that corruption is <em>not</em> necessarily a morality system. Rather than strict virtue judgments it's something more along the lines of a repressed teenager going off to uni, coming into contact with many of the things they were told to stay away from, and indulging to excess because the fundamental issue was not that those things were right or wrong in and of themselves but that the teenager was never given the chance to indulge their curiosity, learn of moderation, or develop a context for them. That curiosity ended up controlling them.</p><p></p><p>Demons lack empathy but I don't think that can be said to be exactly what corruption is. Ultimately it's the manifestation and twisting of a desire, like the teenager's curiosity, from a healthy pursuit to a debauched one.</p><p></p><p>I'm putting together some content for a tamable tentacle beast and my excitement in outlining the concept is in offering something that's equally interesting to play from both a corrupt and pure perspective. The game largely lacking corruption content has a classic writer's plus/minus: there aren't many precedents (it's less restrictive) but there aren't many precedents (there are a lot of blanks to fill in). What corruption would look like in the Champion was one of the first I wanted to pin down. According to the design documents the dark knight personality is more selfish but not evil, fundamentally they should still be a hero or at least <em>capable of heroic acts</em>, so the answer I came up with and have been writing under is that a purer Champion would find corruption to be more of a compulsion that's hard to resist, like that teenager encountering all the drugs, sex, and devil music their parents warned them about:</p><p></p><p>[spoiler]This wasn’t the plan – not <i>exactly</i> – but the sight of her, bound, helpless, dress strategically shredded, is the very picture of temptation. So long as you do the right thing in the end surely a brief and wicked flirtation can be forgiven.</p><p></p><p>For just a moment a pang of fear overtakes you – fear that you’re losing the ability to push these desires aside, fear that these desires aren’t yours to begin with – but it passes through and past you like a chilling winter breeze, leaving you with the warmth of your lust, pure and honest, and something in you knows this is right.</p><p></p><p>Your glazed expression, for all the fogginess it reflects in your head, announces your intentions with such pellucidity that any words she might conjure to placate you die in her throat; squashed by the primal <b>need</b> that confronts her.</p><p></p><p>May your jubilation bring a blush to Mallach’s cheeks.[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>Thinking along the lines of what would make a dark knight fun to play and what they might look like I settled on the idea that a dark knight is past this phase, where these desires are more instinctual and hard for the Champion to contextualize with their rational mind, and has now begun to not only justify them but view them as something they're entitled to. Now that I've got a firm image, a cross between a vain knight and a controlling boy/girlfriend, I'm having a lot of fun coming up with situations that showcase corrupt behaviors like subtly or overtly undercutting companions' opinions, planting ideas in their heads, and generally approaching the situation like everyone in the game owes them something:</p><p></p><p>[spoiler][Cait & Ryn, takes priority over individual variants]A pair of ornery rainclouds threaten a downpour to wash away your forward enthusiasm.</p><p></p><p>“Don’t tease the poor girl, [playername], can’t you see she’s at her wit’s end? Help her out before you go making those goo-goo eye-“something in her demeanor is visibly shaken when Cait sees the look on your face; it’s enough to send her verbally stumbling, “L-look, if you need relief that badly you can always come see me. And if you’re in the mood for a bit of rope play I’ve got some-“</p><p></p><p>“You can’t seriously be considering this!” Emboldened by the fact that she didn’t have to speak up first Etheryn piggybacks her own objection, “She’s still in the clutches of a monster! It’s…it’s not…um, taking advantage of the c-corrupt creatures is one thing, but…I don’t think…should…” but quickly deflates under the weight of your gaze.</p><p></p><p>[pc is dark knight]”Oh? If you two are of a mind to make an ethics question of this rescue then I assume that one or both of you have the strength to handle this yourselves?”</p><p></p><p>It’s a cinch; the moment you pose the challenge you’re treated to the sight you were hoping for. First their eyes dart toward the captive lass. There they are, the little whimpers as they project themselves onto her, imagine themselves in her place, the sidelong glances at their weapons – a flunked-out temple whore dabbling in half-remembered white magic and a “princess” whose closest view of any throne was from a footstool’s perspective making a go of it on their own? who are they trying to fool? – and the sunken expressions as they realize exactly where they’d end up without their champion’s protection. Then, finally, that last drop of sweet honey at the bottom of the pot: the fidgeting, the nervous shuffling as they try to shake off how the imagined powerlessness made them feel. Try as they might to hide it you see it clearly; no, they’re <i>displaying</i> it for you, you decide, else Cait would cover her erect nubs and Ryn the drip drip drip of her little pecker. Your sluts are so <i>predictable</i>.</p><p></p><p>“Don’t you worry your sweet little heads. She’ll be all the better for it once she’s shown the proper deference. Leaving her to that <i>thing</i> never even crossed my mind. We’re the good guys here! Run along, now, I’ll give you a shout if I have need of you.”/[/spoiler]</p><p>[spoiler][Cait]An ornery raincloud threatens a downpour to wash away your forward enthusiasm.</p><p></p><p>“Don’t tease the poor girl, [playername], can’t you see she’s at her wit’s end? Help her out before you go making those goo-goo eye-“something in her demeanor is visibly shaken when Cait sees the look on your face; it’s enough to send her verbally stumbling, “L-look, if you need relief that badly you can always come see me. And if you’re in the mood for a bit of rope play I’ve got some spider-silk threads that haven’t been used for their intended purpose in quite a while. Wonderful stuff, ties your hair every bit as well as your wrists and plugs holes in a wagon cover well enough to keep the damp out.”</p><p></p><p>[pc is dark knight]What a pure girl she is!</p><p></p><p>“Oh no no no, kitten, your mind’s strayed into the gutter again,” with a tap to her forehead, “and you’re all mixed up. This is very much a rescue; you know better than anyone that I’m always willing to answer a call of distress. This is a simple matter of propriety. I put my life on the line protecting those like her – and you – from this demon-filth and the only thing I ask in return is the proper gratitude. You show yours through deference to my will out here on the battlefield[pc has fucked cait],” you curl your finger under her chin to turn her head for a whisper, “and behind closed doors,” bringing a blush to the cute catslut’s cheeks, “/and she shall show hers this way. That’s all this is.”</p><p></p><p>Just one more push and this silly objection will be brushed aside.</p><p></p><p>“I didn’t know the Temple of Mallach taught the spider-folks’ arts. You wouldn’t happen to know any of those complex weaves that can be worn under your clothing…?”</p><p></p><p>There it is: the flush in her cheeks, an outward sign of the rush of excitement taking its course through her as her mind drifts off to distant shores, inlets of willing constriction, sweet-smelling bays filled with the physical proof of the joys of submission. And now that you’ve planted the idea in her head – who better to show it to, to share it with, than her champion? The roots bury themselves.</p><p></p><p>“…You goof, it’d show in this outfit.”</p><p>“I know.”</p><p></p><p>In your mind’s eye, where you can see her true face, little hearts light up in your sex kitten’s pupils.</p><p></p><p>“…I’ll just be digging through my things if you need me.” /[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>What makes this setting's idea of corruption fun to read and fun to write, in my eyes, is that it's not strictly a measure of how depraved a character is, it's <em>not </em>a uniform sense of perversion but something that'll hit each person differently. Becoming corrupt won't necessarily open someone to <em>any</em> form of debauchery but instead creep in through cracks that were already there. The question isn't "what is corruption?" but "what about this character's pursuits can -be- corrupted?".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stemwinder, post: 323951, member: 23736"] Anyway, the idea I wanted to convey is that corruption is [I]not[/I] necessarily a morality system. Rather than strict virtue judgments it's something more along the lines of a repressed teenager going off to uni, coming into contact with many of the things they were told to stay away from, and indulging to excess because the fundamental issue was not that those things were right or wrong in and of themselves but that the teenager was never given the chance to indulge their curiosity, learn of moderation, or develop a context for them. That curiosity ended up controlling them. Demons lack empathy but I don't think that can be said to be exactly what corruption is. Ultimately it's the manifestation and twisting of a desire, like the teenager's curiosity, from a healthy pursuit to a debauched one. I'm putting together some content for a tamable tentacle beast and my excitement in outlining the concept is in offering something that's equally interesting to play from both a corrupt and pure perspective. The game largely lacking corruption content has a classic writer's plus/minus: there aren't many precedents (it's less restrictive) but there aren't many precedents (there are a lot of blanks to fill in). What corruption would look like in the Champion was one of the first I wanted to pin down. According to the design documents the dark knight personality is more selfish but not evil, fundamentally they should still be a hero or at least [I]capable of heroic acts[/I], so the answer I came up with and have been writing under is that a purer Champion would find corruption to be more of a compulsion that's hard to resist, like that teenager encountering all the drugs, sex, and devil music their parents warned them about: [spoiler]This wasn’t the plan – not <i>exactly</i> – but the sight of her, bound, helpless, dress strategically shredded, is the very picture of temptation. So long as you do the right thing in the end surely a brief and wicked flirtation can be forgiven. For just a moment a pang of fear overtakes you – fear that you’re losing the ability to push these desires aside, fear that these desires aren’t yours to begin with – but it passes through and past you like a chilling winter breeze, leaving you with the warmth of your lust, pure and honest, and something in you knows this is right. Your glazed expression, for all the fogginess it reflects in your head, announces your intentions with such pellucidity that any words she might conjure to placate you die in her throat; squashed by the primal <b>need</b> that confronts her. May your jubilation bring a blush to Mallach’s cheeks.[/spoiler] Thinking along the lines of what would make a dark knight fun to play and what they might look like I settled on the idea that a dark knight is past this phase, where these desires are more instinctual and hard for the Champion to contextualize with their rational mind, and has now begun to not only justify them but view them as something they're entitled to. Now that I've got a firm image, a cross between a vain knight and a controlling boy/girlfriend, I'm having a lot of fun coming up with situations that showcase corrupt behaviors like subtly or overtly undercutting companions' opinions, planting ideas in their heads, and generally approaching the situation like everyone in the game owes them something: [spoiler][Cait & Ryn, takes priority over individual variants]A pair of ornery rainclouds threaten a downpour to wash away your forward enthusiasm. “Don’t tease the poor girl, [playername], can’t you see she’s at her wit’s end? Help her out before you go making those goo-goo eye-“something in her demeanor is visibly shaken when Cait sees the look on your face; it’s enough to send her verbally stumbling, “L-look, if you need relief that badly you can always come see me. And if you’re in the mood for a bit of rope play I’ve got some-“ “You can’t seriously be considering this!” Emboldened by the fact that she didn’t have to speak up first Etheryn piggybacks her own objection, “She’s still in the clutches of a monster! It’s…it’s not…um, taking advantage of the c-corrupt creatures is one thing, but…I don’t think…should…” but quickly deflates under the weight of your gaze. [pc is dark knight]”Oh? If you two are of a mind to make an ethics question of this rescue then I assume that one or both of you have the strength to handle this yourselves?” It’s a cinch; the moment you pose the challenge you’re treated to the sight you were hoping for. First their eyes dart toward the captive lass. There they are, the little whimpers as they project themselves onto her, imagine themselves in her place, the sidelong glances at their weapons – a flunked-out temple whore dabbling in half-remembered white magic and a “princess” whose closest view of any throne was from a footstool’s perspective making a go of it on their own? who are they trying to fool? – and the sunken expressions as they realize exactly where they’d end up without their champion’s protection. Then, finally, that last drop of sweet honey at the bottom of the pot: the fidgeting, the nervous shuffling as they try to shake off how the imagined powerlessness made them feel. Try as they might to hide it you see it clearly; no, they’re <i>displaying</i> it for you, you decide, else Cait would cover her erect nubs and Ryn the drip drip drip of her little pecker. Your sluts are so <i>predictable</i>. “Don’t you worry your sweet little heads. She’ll be all the better for it once she’s shown the proper deference. Leaving her to that <i>thing</i> never even crossed my mind. We’re the good guys here! Run along, now, I’ll give you a shout if I have need of you.”/[/spoiler] [spoiler][Cait]An ornery raincloud threatens a downpour to wash away your forward enthusiasm. “Don’t tease the poor girl, [playername], can’t you see she’s at her wit’s end? Help her out before you go making those goo-goo eye-“something in her demeanor is visibly shaken when Cait sees the look on your face; it’s enough to send her verbally stumbling, “L-look, if you need relief that badly you can always come see me. And if you’re in the mood for a bit of rope play I’ve got some spider-silk threads that haven’t been used for their intended purpose in quite a while. Wonderful stuff, ties your hair every bit as well as your wrists and plugs holes in a wagon cover well enough to keep the damp out.” [pc is dark knight]What a pure girl she is! “Oh no no no, kitten, your mind’s strayed into the gutter again,” with a tap to her forehead, “and you’re all mixed up. This is very much a rescue; you know better than anyone that I’m always willing to answer a call of distress. This is a simple matter of propriety. I put my life on the line protecting those like her – and you – from this demon-filth and the only thing I ask in return is the proper gratitude. You show yours through deference to my will out here on the battlefield[pc has fucked cait],” you curl your finger under her chin to turn her head for a whisper, “and behind closed doors,” bringing a blush to the cute catslut’s cheeks, “/and she shall show hers this way. That’s all this is.” Just one more push and this silly objection will be brushed aside. “I didn’t know the Temple of Mallach taught the spider-folks’ arts. You wouldn’t happen to know any of those complex weaves that can be worn under your clothing…?” There it is: the flush in her cheeks, an outward sign of the rush of excitement taking its course through her as her mind drifts off to distant shores, inlets of willing constriction, sweet-smelling bays filled with the physical proof of the joys of submission. And now that you’ve planted the idea in her head – who better to show it to, to share it with, than her champion? The roots bury themselves. “…You goof, it’d show in this outfit.” “I know.” In your mind’s eye, where you can see her true face, little hearts light up in your sex kitten’s pupils. “…I’ll just be digging through my things if you need me.” /[/spoiler] What makes this setting's idea of corruption fun to read and fun to write, in my eyes, is that it's not strictly a measure of how depraved a character is, it's [I]not [/I]a uniform sense of perversion but something that'll hit each person differently. Becoming corrupt won't necessarily open someone to [I]any[/I] form of debauchery but instead creep in through cracks that were already there. The question isn't "what is corruption?" but "what about this character's pursuits can -be- corrupted?". [/QUOTE]
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