What are your gripes/criticism of TiTs?
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I do, the problem is only the first and second highest options are available for that and with the update the Myr Venom perk gives +4 to the my racial score which shoves down my Dragon score to the third highest option. So now the Dragon species can't be selected to be forced through. That's why I think having the top 10 highest racial scores being available to force through would offer players some more flexibility.
I have the opposite gripe, I feel certain RACIAL perks(like mane from horse pill or crystal ridgeback from behemoth for example) don't give you enough racial points for what they are, and in some cases looks at alpha scent don't give you racial score AT ALL.
Racial perks should BARE MINIMUM give you 3 points in a corresponding racial score, because those are supposed to represent the defining trait/characteristic of whatever race you're trying to turn into.
Racial perks should BARE MINIMUM give you 3 points in a corresponding racial score, because those are supposed to represent the defining trait/characteristic of whatever race you're trying to turn into.
I can see that, I would imagine that would be something they'll change over time as they have been doing just like with the Myr Venom perk. Regardless, if they would just let the player choose what they want to identify as regardless of racial score, or at the very least like I mentioned before the top 10 or so highest racial scores, then that would please more players and eliminate a lot of these gripes.
A lot of people identify one way or another in the real world regardless of how they actually look or are born. You would think it would be pretty easy to allow the same in the game, especially considering the diverse player base this kind of game has.
Can I just say how much I LOOOVE buying from the raskvels? I love Colenso offering a piece of damn pocket lint for my locked metal chest, on sum rick harrison "and I'm taking all the risk here" type shi, and him getting so butthurt I don't want his highway robbery offer that he refuses to buy anything from me for awhile. I LOVE selling shekka an antique android for a decent price, only to offer her another one like 2 weeks later and her go "Uh boss I'm not really a businesswoman, maybe try that little gabilani freak down the road? If you're offering I'll take it for free doe.".
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All the text for tail dicks is written as though they were the semi-independent cockvine tails, rather than genitails created with Dicksprout - thus constantly having text like "Your collection of tail dicks has other ideas" when they should just be tails under Steele's control.
Small gripe, but why doesn't the appearance menu/blurb reflect the fact Leithan parts have those bio-luminescent streaks in them? IMHO the text for the arms and legs should be modified to make that clear, along with the parts themselves getting a new appearance flag(bio-luminescent) to represent it.
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Thats another major flaw of the game imo, its wider then the ocean and half as deep as the average puddle. 90% of the transformations are purely cosmetic and only alter your character sheet.
In Tits 2, in addition to everything else they learned, I hope they:
1) Limit the number of transformatives to only what they can keep narratively and mechanically meaningful.
2) refine the work flow so we arent here for a decade again, lol.
3) Actually finish the overwhelming majority of a planet before they start working on the next one, and keep the writiers on those projects dedicated to them so we dont end up with this collection of loose threads that will neither be tied up or cut out. (See: Williams everything.)
And they will do this from their fusion powered flying car that transforms into a robot.
I dont know what to say man, if they can't meaningfully support the content or make some level of guarantee that it will be finished in a timely manner then it really shouldn't be in the game. It's just wasted storage space at that point.
im not sure if making optionally volunteered content required is a very good strategy
there are basically two sides to this coin. this is suggesting to limit customization so the customization that does exist actually matters.
the other side is more what tits is, theoretically infinite customization. and given the number of people who ask for the most minor of additional transformations that will never be accounted for in 90% of writing, i think the community has a preference.
can't have both, unfortunately. its like romance in skyrim, you have a lot of choices but not a lot of depth. cyberpunk 2077 has less choices, but much more depth. neither are wrong, but both have pros and cons.
why do you think coc2 dropped player taur/naga support?
How to make transformation a truly interesting and erotic experience is one of the central dilemmas of CoC/TiTS, and it's one I've gone back and forth on a lot over the years. In TiTS, Fen arrived at one extreme at how you can provide the experience to your players: You give them a huge amount of personal customisation, all relatively easy to access, each with their own fun description of what takes place - but that's it. Beyond a few bespoke experiences like The Treatment, what you are and what you've become has almost no bearing on your interaction with the rest of the game. Although I haven't spent much time with CoC2 I believe broadly the same is true there, because sadly TFing is something that has never interested Savin. It is unavoidably disappointing, and leaves the player feeling that their choices don't matter, which is the one illusion you never want to disspell in an RPG.
The problem of course is that making transformational content meaningful is very challenging, and necessarily means you will lose out in other areas. Most TF erotic games are very focused (usually on feminisation) because of this. Something on the scale of TiTS is not really feasible.
Something I would bring up here though, as uncomfortable as it may be to do so, is that a lot of TiTS' content is pretty worthless. One off sex scenes you can have with vendors or half-assed OCs that don't develop into a meaningful relationship. One off sex scenes with hostiles that have no impact or development. In TiTS it often seems as if you can have sex with anyone, and it feels empty because most of it doesn't matter - mirroring the TF experience, not coincidentally.
To be clear I like mindless and impulsive sex. I love writing orgy scenes! But done well such content is used to convey something about the location and people it takes place in and with, as well as gratifying the reader. Players want sex that feels part of a grander narrative, that feels earned and risky. When it comes time to create TiTS' heir, I truly hope the fact that transformation has to feel meaningful to be worthwhile is part of its core values.
The problem of course is that making transformational content meaningful is very challenging, and necessarily means you will lose out in other areas. Most TF erotic games are very focused (usually on feminisation) because of this. Something on the scale of TiTS is not really feasible.
Something I would bring up here though, as uncomfortable as it may be to do so, is that a lot of TiTS' content is pretty worthless. One off sex scenes you can have with vendors or half-assed OCs that don't develop into a meaningful relationship. One off sex scenes with hostiles that have no impact or development. In TiTS it often seems as if you can have sex with anyone, and it feels empty because most of it doesn't matter - mirroring the TF experience, not coincidentally.
To be clear I like mindless and impulsive sex. I love writing orgy scenes! But done well such content is used to convey something about the location and people it takes place in and with, as well as gratifying the reader. Players want sex that feels part of a grander narrative, that feels earned and risky. When it comes time to create TiTS' heir, I truly hope the fact that transformation has to feel meaningful to be worthwhile is part of its core values.
Part of the reason I love Shekka's content so much is how it is written. She honestly and passionately loves Steele. And says as much.
Most of my favorite characters tend to be ones with serious emotional attachment to Steele. Shekka, Amber, Ffion, Azra, etc.
It's also why though I always recruit Anno to sell items too, I don't feel a connection with her. She just doesn't seem to love Steele in that same way. It's also why, while I love Paulete's story, I feel like a weird third wheel.
Also why, strangely, I love the classic lapinara scenes. She's extremely grateful to you for taking her eggs, and very caring, making sure you're in a safe area after you pass out and leaving all your equipment neatly by.
Most of my favorite characters tend to be ones with serious emotional attachment to Steele. Shekka, Amber, Ffion, Azra, etc.
It's also why though I always recruit Anno to sell items too, I don't feel a connection with her. She just doesn't seem to love Steele in that same way. It's also why, while I love Paulete's story, I feel like a weird third wheel.
Also why, strangely, I love the classic lapinara scenes. She's extremely grateful to you for taking her eggs, and very caring, making sure you're in a safe area after you pass out and leaving all your equipment neatly by.
Well, how do you think you're gonna pull that off?
Because while I don't doubt your capabilities, and I don't want to bring you down, what you're hoping for sounds like some Mass Effect level shit here.
And also, there's the issue that it may not be what the players want.
A bit of an issue I, and likely some others, have with CoC2 is that it plays too much like a game.
Let's keep if real, CoC1 and TiTS are pretty much just funnels for porn with the veneer of a game draped over them. And that's fine imo, that means when I wanna get the ball rolling there's not a lot of bullshit between me and what I want.
But when I tried out CoC2, I couldn't help but feel... kinda overwhelmed? For lack of better words. And maybe it was just my smooth monki brain being like "ooga booga me want boobies now!"
So running it back a bit, if in TiTS2, I need to go through a whole quest chain just to get my dong wet or to to get a tf, that may be a bit offputting.
Sorry if I'm just being an incomprehensible moron here or whatever, btw, I'm not good at explaining this stuff.
I really think they should be added back into the game proper, no cheats or whatever. Cuz let's keep it real, there's been way weirder stuff added since they got removed. I mean ffs butt bugs alone are pretty weird, and that's the same fucking planet!
It wasn't due to the weird factor, it was due to the scene quality not meeting standards.
This right here. IMHO the reason COC1 and TITs work is because the gameplay-elements(battle mostly) take a back seat to the porn/sex scene elements, COC2 tried to do the reverse and it just feels...jarring, to say the least.
Absolutely. The convenience element is certainly something I quickly realised was key to CoC1's success, once I started trying out other smut games that were around at the time. So many of them locked the action behind a ton of interminable exposition (which is usually the same quality as soft porn writing and acting) and bog standard mechanics. You could be fucking a goblin within two minutes of starting CoC1. That's undoubtedly important.
It's why establishing some kind of home base early on, which the PC can furnish with slaves and waifus, is essential. Then pretty quickly you have a scenario where if the player's just feeling horny they can jump in, quickly get some scenes they want, and jump off again. You have a fast food joint and then something actually nourishing going on outside.
Oh, right. Well, is it out if the picture for them to get a cleanup pass to bring them up to spec? Or are they just so far gone they're a lost cause?
Omg, dude, a TiTS sequel where you like, build your own space station or fleet and expand operations and stuff like a NSFW Star Sector would be literal crack for me and so many others.
Honestly we'd probably be fine with just a blatant do over, just reusing all the lore and species and characters and art and scenes and everything, because that concept alone is so appealing.
Cuz like, getting the Sidewinder was probably one if the most significant and memorable moments of the game imo. It was a total "fuck yeah, this is it" moment, you know?
Now imagine you have dozens of moments, all across the game, gathering new ships, new crewmates to provide tangible bonuses to your profits, truly building yourself up from scratch.
You're not chasing your father's legacy. You're making your own. You're bending this galaxy over a table and going in hard with no lube, and its gonna be screaming your name before you're done.
I can count on one hand the number of things I wouldn't do to be able to play something like that.
And I'm certain I'm not the only one.
Sorry got a bit tangential there lol.
On a similar note, I wanna apologize for if I came off as rude here:
I understand what Savin wanted to do and why with CoC2. He wanted to make the game, ya know, an actual fucking game. Something more than just shameless smut. And I get that, I can respect that.
And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Fuck I just described how I would like a way for a TITS sequel to be more gamefied.
I guess CoC2 just isn't quite my cup of tea, or that I hadn't played long enough to make the adjustment from going at the casual speed of CoC1 and TiTS to whatever speed CoC2 goes at. Like I said, I'm a total dingus. I mean I remember when they revamped the TiTS ui and I basically had to relearn how to play the game lol.
Still though, maybe a "super easy mode" or something that just completely trivializes or even totally skips combat altogether would be a good idea to give appeal to horny idiots like me who just wanna zoom through to the jiggly bits. Then we can reload a save and play the game proper. Just throwing that on the table while I'm here, hope ya don't mind.
On a similar note, I wanna apologize for if I came off as rude here:
I understand what Savin wanted to do and why with CoC2. He wanted to make the game, ya know, an actual fucking game. Something more than just shameless smut. And I get that, I can respect that.
And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Fuck I just described how I would like a way for a TITS sequel to be more gamefied.
I guess CoC2 just isn't quite my cup of tea, or that I hadn't played long enough to make the adjustment from going at the casual speed of CoC1 and TiTS to whatever speed CoC2 goes at. Like I said, I'm a total dingus. I mean I remember when they revamped the TiTS ui and I basically had to relearn how to play the game lol.
Still though, maybe a "super easy mode" or something that just completely trivializes or even totally skips combat altogether would be a good idea to give appeal to horny idiots like me who just wanna zoom through to the jiggly bits. Then we can reload a save and play the game proper. Just throwing that on the table while I'm here, hope ya don't mind.
Also a bit tangential but coc2 is genuinely very easy. I've complained in the gripes thread before that I found the max difficulty too easy for 95% of the game (faceless blade is very strong)
I really doubt a staffer would spend the time on it, but if a community member wanted to rewrite them (or just submit a fresh Lappy encounter) I'm sure it'd be welcome. I genuinely really love their design and was sad to see them go.
We do have that. Story Mode makes it almost impossible to lose.
(You can also turn on Visually Impaired Mode to skip a lot of the puzzles, too.)
That's my experience too but also, y'know, one-handed porn game XD
The presence of Difficulty options at all was a post-launch inclusion and was just formulaic for most of the game's life cycle. We've started doing a lot more with Dark Difficulty since... I want to say about a year, year and a half ago? I'd like to go back at some point and mod older fights to bring them up to the same standard.
Hopefully our future games can have more interesting higher difficulty settings.