I doubt that in light of the many more recent adaptions (like Sherlock or Elementary) which if anything often emphasize those elements.
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I doubt that in light of the many more recent adaptions (like Sherlock or Elementary) which if anything often emphasize those elements.
True, but those are but 2 amongst many Sherlock Holmes adaptations. (Plus these shows don't have a very large audience in my country), and since Holmes's adventures are transposed to the 21st century, people may assume that the characters are OOC compared to ACD canon (
And those 2 shows are relatively recent, before that there was a huge gap between Holmes's rep and his actual character in ACD canon.
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I was objecting to your reckless overgeneralization, not claiming that there's no one who hasn't read the original stories and thinks Holmes is a shiny perfect gentleman.
Though I'm curious, which adaptions were you thinking off then, Sherlock Hound? (That one was pretty cool TBH.)
Though I'm curious, which adaptions were you thinking off then, Sherlock Hound? (That one was pretty cool TBH.)
well I must say that the only Sherlock Holmes series I've followed, Sherlock Bones, portrayed him as ShySquare describes.
Apologies, I do tend to become over-enthusiast about some subjects. (^^)' Unfortunately, I haven't seen Sherlock Hound (because I hadn't even heard of it), so no, I wasn't thinking about this adaptation (off-off topic : would you believe me if I told you that Sherlock Holmes was once a mouse, and quite in-character too ?) No, the adaptation that makes me grind my teeth is Elementary (><)''' (again, it's just my personal opinion, and I'm not going to try to convince anybody, but I just can't with this one)
Exactly ! I think that's probably one the most accurate depiction of Sherlock Holmes (compared to acd canon) there is. (boy do I hope you're not being sarcastic, I'd feel silly)
Edit : Ah, I see I misunderstood the question (again >.>). No, I was thinking more of SH's reputation amongst the general public, especially those who didn't read ACD canon, and not any specific adaptation (although there must have been some that contributed to this reputation).
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That he was a mouse, I'll believe (Prof. Ratigan had one of the best Disney villain songs of all time). That it was all that in-character I don't believe.
Now, it may just be nostalgia speaking, but Sherlock Hound is definitely worth checking out.
Elementary's Holmes isn't exactly an always sensible flawless hero, though. I mean, aside from poverty he has basically all the elements you listed as central to the character.
I think FA's right about the inaccuray of your generalisation. I think most people at least know Holmes was an opium addict, and a quintessential tortured genius. Modern audiences love that type of shit much more than flawless gentlemen.
That's an Anglocentric view, though. I wouldn't pretend to know the ins and outs of a populist French classic like the Three Musketeers, for instance.
That's an Anglocentric view, though. I wouldn't pretend to know the ins and outs of a populist French classic like the Three Musketeers, for instance.
That is true. But to me, it feels more like Elementary Sherlock and ACD Sherlock share the same (somewhat) backstory, but don't have exactly the same personality.
Actually I think the problem with Elementary is that I tried watching it after I read the books and watched Sherlock, and my brain couldn't reconcile these 2 different interpretations of the character, especially since I love Sherlock's (and find it closer to the original's), so it decided that I must dislike the other.
That, or it's just not to my taste.
That is very likely (about FA being right about the inaccuracy of my generalisation). (funny that you would choose the Three Musketeers for your example) I live in France, and I think here people know more the idea of a genius detective than the character itself (especially since a lot of characterisation can be lost in translations)
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Soviet Sherlock = best Sherlock.
No dugs and misogyny, but at least they got his decidedly unencyclopedic knowledge part right. Also, the cuddlyest versions of Lestrade and Watson.
Nobody screws up adaptations quite like Japanese anime industry thought. Not even other animated adaptations. I still can't get over Space Opera Count Monte Cristo.
No dugs and misogyny, but at least they got his decidedly unencyclopedic knowledge part right. Also, the cuddlyest versions of Lestrade and Watson.
Nobody screws up adaptations quite like Japanese anime industry thought. Not even other animated adaptations. I still can't get over Space Opera Count Monte Cristo.
It sure was and I ended up being pleasantly surprised by it, since my expectations had been pretty low. However even plebs like me recognized several key elements and chracters being butchered, and any self-proclaimed Dumas purists that partucipated in the discussion were pretty pissed off.
*desperate attempt to put the thread back on its original course* So I came here to see if anyone knew if the faux-cow/faux-bull part of the treatment has been implemented yet?
I don't think it's been implemented yet, unfortunately.
Edit : Apologies for derailing the thread.
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Its cool, I don't mind it so much myself.
I suppose untill then the use of other drugs and save scuming will probably do the trick. :<
Also I would be willing to write those, but not sure if just a good grasp of grammer, sentence structure, a spell check, and last (but most certainly not least), decent skill at writing would be enough to get the job done. (Pretty sure theres the things like [gender specific organ discriptor surounded by brackets here] things that I dont know enough about.) Though If somone could show me how to do that too I'd be more than happy to try my hand at writing it. :3