Steam?

[MindHoney]

I'm Relatively new to this form so it might have been posted before, but what about distribution on steam? where its 10-15$ and you get a mouth or 2 subscription, after that you're a normal user on less you renew it. This might be a massive pain in the ass, as i have not seen any subscription based games on steam that i remember. saying that it might get the game to much wider audience, and make it much more accessible, at least to start out. 

 

[Savin]

As much as I'd love to have TiTS on Steam, it's explicit pornography. Not even the semi-porn that the Sakura games peddle.

 

[Nonesuch]

Can of worms and then some.


Firstly Steam does not sell pornographic games. Dating sims yes, outright porno like TiTS no. I believe this is a situation that will change in the next four or five years, and given their penchant for expansion and the unrealised potential for profit I'd bet anything Valve have already tentatively looked into it. But it's laden with a lot of issues on the distributor's side that aren't easy to resolve.


Secondly - a different transaction model would have to be designed, and really Fen would have to come at TiTS in an entirely different manner than he does now. Oh god, I'm just imagining the NT thing and him rambling off to write another furry futa waifu instead of space mechanics if he was an "official" game dev with TiTS in Greenlight/Early Access, it would be an absolute bloodbath. With an official platform, a bigger audience and greater potential for profit comes serious responsibility and much closer scrutiny, and the chance that even if you do diligently keep to a timetable and do all the things you said you would, people will still review bomb you. I'm not saying Fen doesn't work hard, but the leeway he has now suits how he goes about things much better than in that scenario.

 

[Magic Ted]

There is no reason to, nor is it the type of media that fits in Steam or is wanted there.

 

[Gedan]

also don't fucking make me deal with the steamworks site anymore than I already have to jfc

 

[Magic Ted]

i say "wanted there" the day of hunie pop 2 showing up


MAYBE THERE'S A MARKET GEDAN

 

[Gedan]

tbh there probs is


experience tells me the most vocally opposed doth protest too much 

 

[Woider]

tbh there probs is


experience tells me the most vocally opposed doth protest too much 

They will complain... but still secretly fap to it because it's too damn lewd.

 

[Ethereal Dragon]

lot of translation companies and releasing visual novels that originally had adult content in them, but without adult content on steam. Doesn't stop you from finding a patch to bring back the game to it's fully fucking glory of fucking, and sex, and naughtiness.

 

[Couch]

That sounds like a ridiculous amount of work, though.  Also now you're maintaining three actively developed versions of the same game except one has to have its content carefully pruned of anything Steam doesn't allow.

 

[Gedan]

tbh valve doesn't even check shit most of the time


i could literally just ask them for a new appid right now and have everything setup in under an hour


keeping it up after the fact tho...

 

[Ethereal Dragon]

yeah... a lot of ppl have complained about steam allowing BS games being allowed to be sold. There's also quite a few bag, grab and run with the money titles. Steam really needs to put on the iron fist glove and start enforcing a certain amount of quality.

 

[Ethereal Dragon]

Greenlight was a terrible idea. A lot of people say it was a good idea with bad execution, but it was just a flat-out terrible idea.

not entirely true... well mostly it is but there are some gems in greenlight. There are some very popular games out now that started as greenlight games on steam. Again though a lot of them are pieces of shit that should have never seen the light of day.

 

[Noob Salad]

Visual Novels need Greenlight, though.


Also TiTS is more than 50% porn.

 

[Gedan]

Greenlight was a terrible idea. A lot of people say it was a good idea with bad execution, but it was just a flat-out terrible idea.

its not even greenlight


i could literally just ask for a new appid and get one, no questions asked

 

[Lawleious]

its not even greenlight


i could literally just ask for a new appid and get one, no questions asked

Would you though?

 

[Ethereal Dragon]

Probably not, just to avoid the amount of weirded out butthurt of people on steam that would be intent on trying to remove it. Sure a lot of people would support it because they're as messed up as we are but there's always the other side of the morality and pure maidens league who want to protect 'innocent minds' from the perverseness of the world and the internet in general.

 

[Gedan]

Would you though?

no on account of the fact they'd probably bomb the entire account, including the ~mainstream~ stuff associated with it

 

[Magic Ted]

once you get your foot in the door it's easy tho, gedan, that isn't really fair


it's why people still use publisher studios while putting shit on steam

 

[Gedan]

yesno


How we got the appid for toyshoots was p. much "hey valve we totally released a game on steam in the past and we have this new game we're working on..." and then literally 15 minutes later we had an appid, we never said what it was for and there was no easy way to confirm we were who we said we were.


And then I asked for a seperate dedicated server appid and had it in less than 5 minutes- but its treated as an entirely isolated product, so i could push out whatever the fuck and charge for it...


also we have no publisher we're some pissant little indie that somehow gets to sit at the big boy table???


tl;dr theres a steam group you can only join if you have the steamworks dev badge, so you just have to have an appbundle designated as developer (I could gen a key for the toyshoots app bundle and give it to somebody and they'd get the steamworks dev badge...). all of the steamworks help/contact is done through that steam group, and given the speed of response to requests for stuff, I highly doubt too much checking goes on other than "ur in the group u must be a developer"