seduce Jill on Phendra?

Gammerick

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The wiki says if I danced and rescued her on Dhaal I can do it. But no option pops up on the train ride. I did the Goo Clone version of the facility. Does it not trigger if I just ask for Jill before fighting?
 

Theron

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Motivation->Recruit->Flirt.

Did you get the post Farrow Facility e-mail thanking you? (Actually receiving/reading the e-mail isn't necessary, but it does tell you if you set the Flag correctly.)

Post your save for inspection? There was someone earlier who had a save without the Danced flag set correctly. It's possible there was a bug in some version that got fixed eventually, if you did the party a long time ago.
 

Gammerick

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Motivation->Recruit->Flirt.

Did you get the post Farrow Facility e-mail thanking you? (Actually receiving/reading the e-mail isn't necessary, but it does tell you if you set the Flag correctly.)

Post your save for inspection? There was someone earlier who had a save without the Danced flag set correctly. It's possible there was a bug in some version that got fixed eventually, if you did the party a long time ago.
 

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Theron

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As I suspected, you didn't have "RIVAL_DANCE":1.
Added it in for you.
 

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Gplikespie

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As someone coming back to the game after like 5 years of only playing CoC2, what IS the full romance arc for Jack/Jill? The wiki has some bits of it, but it's a bit vague. Does anyone know (or feel like explaining) the full steps?
Also, I thought a long time ago any incest-related stuff was removed from the game due to the site that payments were made on having rules against that content, hence Shade being re-worked a bit (or so I remember). Was that all reverted?
 

Asteroth

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As someone coming back to the game after like 5 years of only playing CoC2, what IS the full romance arc for Jack/Jill? The wiki has some bits of it, but it's a bit vague. Does anyone know (or feel like explaining) the full steps?
Also, I thought a long time ago any incest-related stuff was removed from the game due to the site that payments were made on having rules against that content, hence Shade being re-worked a bit (or so I remember). Was that all reverted?
Bit late to this, but there's a shitload of incest, however the staff officially deny that it exists, and will reject user submissions with it, despite actively adding more of it themselves. That's the short version anyway. There's a lot more to say on the topic but it's a whole ordeal.
 

Gplikespie

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Bit late to this, but there's a shitload of incest, however the staff officially deny that it exists, and will reject user submissions with it, despite actively adding more of it themselves. That's the short version anyway. There's a lot more to say on the topic but it's a whole ordeal.
Heh. Gotta love the folks who go "Yeah I love the mind-wiping sex-slave-making and forced body transformation, but snogging your cousin is going WAY too far!" XD
But yeah, I've found some. I wouldn't say there's a "Shitload" of it in the game, given how much more hyper-genitals and dom/sub stuff there is to compare it with, but it's there.
 

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Heh. Gotta love the folks who go "Yeah I love the mind-wiping sex-slave-making and forced body transformation, but snogging your cousin is going WAY too far!" XD
But yeah, I've found some. I wouldn't say there's a "Shitload" of it in the game, given how much more hyper-genitals and dom/sub stuff there is to compare it with, but it's there.
Off the top of my head, there's two instances I can think of.
There was a another, but that went through a major retcon and the incest was removed.
 

Asteroth

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friend made this about a year ago during some drama we were involved in. This isn't actually all of the incest either.
 

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Jacques00

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Because I was quoted in that image, allow me to note that while I am a member of development team, I do not have a major role in the review and acceptance/cutting process. The information I expressed there is what I've picked up on during team meetings, so it may be possible that I could be wrong if things change based on the whims of the development process.

That said, when Patreon started changing their policies and cracking down more aggressively on incest content, we had to adapt some of the game's writing to better avoid any of the consequences (as futile as that may seem nowadays). So a lot of the pre-existing incest-leaning content was edited to varying degrees, where possible, to allow for vagueness or just outright nullification. So regardless of any individual stances on the subject matter, the changes made were more for the preservation of the project and to avoid the wrath of payment processors than for anything else.

Any future potential content that focuses on incest will more than likely be refused, whereas pre-existing content may be changed in one way or another to better comply with rules. The reason why I mentioned that further editing isn't a high priority is because the effort put into reviewing and modifying past content to such a degree can be better put into editing and implementing new content, so again that is an efficiency issue rather than a personal stance. Which is to say that we will edit past content at our discretion, particularly if it's worth the resources to do so.

And again, this is based off of what I've gathered in team discussions, so any other dev member can chime in for further clarification. Hope this helps in understanding the situation.

Also note that the wiki is community-run, so while it can help inform and be a very useful guiding tool, do not accept all the information on there as gospel. There are a number of contributors who provide a commendable service in keeping the wiki as up-to-date and as easy-to-understand as possible, but there are still some spots that may need extra touch ups, especially if they are outdated (this is a very, very long-running project after all). If you have any issues with any of the information displayed there, feel free to bring it up in the proper wiki-related forums.