New Item to grant missing perks for DEPENDANT_CUM

[MostlyThere]

To put it simply, we have a situation where because 2 status effects and 1 perk don't exist, DEPENDANT_CUM always returns false. (As well as DEPENDANT_ANAL entirely relying on "ButtSlut" to work)

Based on this, I had this idea where someone looked at Dumbfuck, decided to make a better version, and the newer thing was promptly made illegal, but got leaked anyway. Maybe sold by Mabbs. Right now my brain says to make it happen over 48 hours. (For comparison, all of Dumbfuck can be blown through within 24 hours.)

The main restriction for this new item would be that it has to give both the "Buttslut" perk, and either a new perk called "Cum Guzzler", or a new status effect called "Oral Fixation" for the complete whore package. The latter two are what we're missing right now.

Everything else (stat changes, appearance, personality, etc) is up for grabs.

 

[Crablord]

can you say this but in a way i can understand with my 1 brain cell

 

[Paradox01]

can you say this but in a way i can understand with my 1 brain cell

You'll have to forgive him, he's only MostlyThere.

 

[Theron]

It seems likely you're looking at a drug that creates an obsession with cum in general, then. Fenoxo said DEPENDANT_CUM is intended for a character that needs cum to survive.

Something intended to produce sex slaves? But making the slave actually dependent on cum for survival was deemed less useful in practice, since you then need to supply it. Or it wasn't an actually effective restriction. See: Cum-Cows being able to drink their own cum to satisfy Dumb4Cum*. I'm thinking it really isn't used much, or you'd see it on Zheng Shi.

An unsuccessful predecessor/offshoot of Breeder's Bliss? Induces a need for cum everywhere but a vagina?

We know people have tried to reverse-engineer the Treatment. Maybe it's a partially successful attempt?

An attempt at a Slyveren TF gone horribly wrong (or right?). They already have the oral-fixation.

Addictive Cum mods are apparently illegal. Somebody tried getting around it by making a mod that addicts the target to cum?

Note: Buttslut also has the effect of Bubble Butt (minimum size 18, counts as low Tone for descriptions).

*Still annoyed by that. 'Power at a price' should not be so easy. Imagine Vampires that could drink their own blood.

 

[rafabud]

You'll have to forgive him, he's only MostlyThere.

ayyy

 

[Hanzo]

It could also be a SSTD. Usually people who hate these is because they force physical changes to their characters, but that wouldn't apply here. Deseedration sounds like a good name?
Or a parasite that needs cum.

 

[Theron]

It could also be a SSTD. Usually people who hate these is because they force physical changes to their characters, but that wouldn't apply here. Deseedration sounds like a good name?
Or a parasite that needs cum.

Maybe, but what happens if you get this one (which you want), then get one you don't want and cure it? As far as I know, there is no system in place for selectively curing SSTDs. Do you have to go and contract this SSTD again? I suppose there could be a permanent effect if you let it go long enough (until the disease burns itself out). What of people who generally buy immunity to SSTDs as soon as possible (like myself)?

Parasite sounds manageable, but it still may be a turn off for some people. Might also step on Cunt-Snake's toes, so to speak. How do you acquire it? A random encounter? Is it planet specific?

 

[Paradox01]

You could make it a sellable TF treat and call it "Whore D'oeuvres". Or, make it a new, smaller treatment called "Whoremones". The NPC that sells it could be called The Whoremonger.

Ooh, I just had an idea for a new shop specializing in plant-based TFs called "Whorticulture Dawn".

 

[MostlyThere]

It seems likely you're looking at a drug that creates an obsession with cum in general, then. Fenoxo said DEPENDANT_CUM is intended for a character that needs cum to survive.

Something intended to produce sex slaves? But making the slave actually dependent on cum for survival was deemed less useful in practice, since you then need to supply it. Or it wasn't an actually effective restriction. See: Cum-Cows being able to drink their own cum to satisfy Dumb4Cum*. I'm thinking it really isn't used much, or you'd see it on Zheng Shi.

And this is where I run into problems with isDependant(). It seems to be viewed as the "I need this to live" check function, whereas DEPENDANT_MYRVENOM, a fully functioning part of isDependant(), is at most a mild difficulty.

 

[MostlyThere]

Maybe, but what happens if you get this one (which you want), then get one you don't want and cure it? As far as I know, there is no system in place for selectively curing SSTDs. Do you have to go and contract this SSTD again? I suppose there could be a permanent effect if you let it go long enough (until the disease burns itself out). What of people who generally buy immunity to SSTDs as soon as possible (like myself)?

Parasite sounds manageable, but it still may be a turn off for some people. Might also step on Cunt-Snake's toes, so to speak. How do you acquire it? A random encounter? Is it planet specific?

Overall, the game's feel is that everyone in the inner parts of the UGC any SSTD found by med people are treated, and that the expanding outskirts (where we are) are where SSTDs go through the entire cycle. With this context, it would make sense that the UGC would just blanket cure SSTDs instead of being selective. So, answering in order:

1. No other way than via save editing.
2. Yes, you'll need to get it again (but the UGC really doesn't want you to).
3. See (1), i.e. save editing's your way out of this problem.

If it was a parasite, it would be Mimbrane-like, i.e. binding to existing limbs rather than being a new limb. It could influence the host, but it would have to seem like the host likes this arrangement.

 

[Hanzo]

Maybe, but what happens if you get this one (which you want), then get one you don't want and cure it? As far as I know, there is no system in place for selectively curing SSTDs. Do you have to go and contract this SSTD again? I suppose there could be a permanent effect if you let it go long enough (until the disease burns itself out). What of people who generally buy immunity to SSTDs as soon as possible (like myself)?

Parasite sounds manageable, but it still may be a turn off for some people. Might also step on Cunt-Snake's toes, so to speak. How do you acquire it? A random encounter? Is it planet specific?

Well, I was just pointing out possibilities.

Something like a Marvel Universe's symbiotes that attaches to Steele's face is the least gruesome thing I can think of. Maybe that could work.

If you want manageability, and cumslut is enough, a (tongue?) piercing is your best bet. It'd be the fastest to write and code as well. No need to write TF scenes, then add another TF or modify existing ones to have a way to remove it. Maybe something used in places like Gastigoth to change the behavior of their inmates?

Are dependant cum mechanics implemented or even planned? If not, I doubt something with dependant cum will be implemented until they are.

 

[Paradox01]

No need to write TF scenes, then add another TF or modify existing ones to have a way to remove it.

Sticking with my "Whore D'oeuvres" TF idea, just make another TF that removes the perks/status effects and call it "Whorbet".

 

[valk42]

I like the idea of a cumslut tongue piercing, and it could be something given to you by a dom with a reduction-over-time addiction mechanic, like Luca or upcoming Jasvalla, but you keep the item after weaning yourself off of them specifically.

 

[null_blank]

The problem with making it an SSTD is it drags along the baggage of the other SSTDs.

Totally not worth it.

 

[MostlyThere]

Are dependant cum mechanics implemented or even planned? If not, I doubt something with dependant cum will be implemented until they are.

As noted in the original bug report, multiple scenes make use of this dependency, far more than the myr venom dependency. I found 3 references for myr venom, whereas I count 14 places in the compiled code that make use of pc.isDependant(Creature.DEPENDANT_CUM) and pc.isDependant(2). (both are the same thing)

 

[Hanzo]

As noted in the original bug report, multiple scenes make use of this dependency, far more than the myr venom dependency. I found 3 references for myr venom, whereas I count 14 places in the compiled code that make use of pc.isDependant(Creature.DEPENDANT_CUM) and pc.isDependant(2). (both are the same thing)

Yes, there are scenes. I'm talking about the cum addiction equivalent of myr venom addiction in the source code. I can't find it.

Fenoxo said DEPENDANT_CUM is intended for a character that needs cum to survive.

I don't think he meant it literally. Don't drink cum and die? Way too boring and unsexy.

 

[MostlyThere]

Yes, there are scenes. I'm talking about the cum addiction equivalent of myr venom addiction in the source code. I can't find it.

In this case, the cum dependency equivalent for myr venom would be DEPENDANT_MYRVENOM. Some scenes use this.

As for an actual cum addiction, there shouldn't be any right now.

 

[Paradox01]

How does Ardia fit into all of this?

 

[MostlyThere]

How does Ardia fit into all of this?

Ardia probably induces dependency to her cum, but not cum in general. DEPENDANT_CUM is most likely cum in general.

 

[SeriousBlueJewel]

Here is something you haven't thought of Dhaal there is a surgery that allows you to survive of cum and cum alone. Just make you get the perk from there.

 

[Wsan]

Here is something you haven't thought of Dhaal there is a surgery that allows you to survive of cum and cum alone. Just make you get the perk from there.

This was my immediate thought upon reading the OP. I don't know if that's what the flag was invented for (could be really old for all I know, haven't asked), but it seems a good bet. There's a chance I write the surgery/TF for this.

 

[Paradox01]

Ardia probably induces dependency to her cum, but not cum in general. DEPENDANT_CUM is most likely cum in general.

Ah, gotcha.

There's a chance I write the surgery/TF for this.

Well if you do, someone, I forget who, suggested a couple of great names for a procedure/TF earlier in this thread. I mean, they had me ROFLing.