Lilith's Throne - A Promising Text-Based Erotic RPG

[TheSgt]

What is Lilith's Throne?

Lilith's Throne is a text-based erotic RPG, being developed by Innoxia. It's been made from scratch in Java, and uses JavaFX for the UI.

Basically, the game is about you being transported into an alternate dimension, and the main story is about trying to find a way to return home. Although there are humans and demons in the game, most of the content is pretty furry, so if that's not your thing, then let this be your warning! There isn't a huge amount of content to be discovered right now (and a lot of it still needs polishing), but there are a few sex scenes to see, and you can at least get a feel for what the game's about.

Some main features include:
- Turn-based combat.
- Turn-based sex scenes.
- RPG item management.
- Transformations.
- Exploration on a randomly generated map.

Game is updated about every Thursday or Friday.

Link to blog -> https://lilithsthrone.blogspot.co.uk/

This synopsis was mostly copied straight from the creator's blog, and the game is, at the moment, very unfinished.

 

[IvoryOwl]

What fetishes will be present in the game?

 

[Master]

It's really good so far. I like it.

 

[TheSgt]

What fetishes will be present in the game?

I only know some of what will NOT be in the game.

"Extreme fetish content such as guro/extreme violence, scat, and under/questionable age, is not, and will never be, a part of this game." - Innoxia, at her blog.

 

[lightningshifter]

It has a decent setup for a more CoC, TiTs, and FoE presentation. The game is still in it's very early stages though so there's basically one zone that uses procedural generation to build the square that you explore. It has your general sexual content along with the additions of furries and herms. Although at present it's only possible to make your character into a herm and that's usually by save scumming after using transformative items. The items like to force you either to a purely male or female state depending on their nature. I would say that it looks like the framework was laid out so Innoxia could troubleshoot and work her different mechanics into the game before she went and built the game's story and world out. So, try it out to get a taste for what will be coming. It has a lot of potential from the presentation. I've already played several builds of it to experience the changes in the frequent updates. Admittedly the changes are all to mechanical elements right now so that leaves the recent updates with much shorter play times since I can speed run to the end of content pretty fast at this point.

 

[Langtry]

I like the feel of this game, going to be keeping an eye on it.

 

[dragonlord217]

Actually a surprisingly good game. Reminds me of certain were-promising-but-now-dead games like nimin or helix prime. Just looking at the blog shows that the developer puts a lot of thought into making the game itself.

Right now there's only 1 area in the game. But there's 5 more areas promised with expected release versions for all of them. Definitely gonna keep tabs on this.

 

[ThatOneJester]

I actually already posted up a review for the game on the tfgamessite.
I really enjoyed what you had for the game.
The only problem with the game I had was getting lost....a lot.
From what I can tell, the map was randomly generated?
Not sure if that was intended or not, but basically I found getting from point A to point B very confusing once you left aunties house...

Otherwise I loved the game a lot, and can't wait to see more enemies and characters.
Also maybe if you can, a crazy person?
One crazy person in a game can make things interesting is all I'm saying...
Insanity is the spice of life! <3
Maybe make it a Yandere. O wo

 

[Innoxia]

Hi, I'm the author/creator of Lilith's Throne. I'm glad to see that you're enjoying the game, and thanks for the feedback!

I'm not very familiar with your forum (sorry, I should have lurked a bit more first...), so I hope I'm not breaking any etiquette by bumping a thread about my own game here. I just released version 0.1.66, so I thought now might be a good time to respond to the questions I've seen a couple of you ask!

What fetishes will be present in the game?

Thanks for asking this! I actually have quite a big list of all the fetishes that I'm willing to include in the game, but I forgot to put it up anywhere publicly. I don't see a spoiler tag option in this reply window, and I don't want to take up most of this page with a massive list, so here's a link to the page I made about fetish content on my blog.

The only problem with the game I had was getting lost....a lot.
From what I can tell, the map was randomly generated?
Also maybe if you can, a crazy person?

The map is randomly generated, and a couple of people have already asked me for an overview-map of the area, so that'll likely be added pretty soon. I wanted exploration to be a main part of the game (so you'd end up bumping into enemies and stuff), so that's why the map is hidden on game start.
I don't have any plans for a crazy character at the moment, but if I get a suitable opportunity at some point then I'll see if I can add one in. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Having now played the game for a bit, the only fundamental thing I dislike about the game is the apparent need to get corrupted to have any options at all in sex scenes. It seems very strange that my character starts off so prudish that they're not even willing to kiss in sex scenes. The only way to change this is to raise your corruption, which seems to only be possible by losing fights (which can lead to permanent stat losses if you get back to back loses). Even once you get the 'vanilla' level of corruption you're not willing to do anything except strip clothing pieces.

While it might make sense to gate some things behind corruption level, I don't think it's a good idea to gate basically everything like this. If someone's after having fun, this forces them to grind out corruption points for an extended period of time just to be able to be an active participant in sex scenes.

Looking at the site it seems that you changed your starting corruption in the latest version, but didn't change any of the corruption requirements for actions?

 

[Innoxia]

Thanks for mentioning this! I'm going to add more ways to increase corruption, as well as move all the standard options in sex scenes down to the 'vanilla' level. I'll move the very basic ones (like kissing/groping) down to the 'pure' level as well.

I really should have fixed that for this version, but now that you've mentioned it, I've put it at the top of my todo list, and you can be sure that the corruption requirements will be a lot better balanced in the next version!

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Thanks for mentioning this! I'm going to add more ways to increase corruption, as well as move all the standard options in sex scenes down to the 'vanilla' level. I'll move the very basic ones (like kissing/groping) down to the 'pure' level as well.

I really should have fixed that for this version, but now that you've mentioned it, I've put it at the top of my todo list, and you can be sure that the corruption requirements will be a lot better balanced in the next version!

Thanks a lot. I do think there is potential in this game and I think your writing is fairly good. I do want to see what else you've got, but haven't played much yet since I found that problem to be quite the wall.

 

[tjmac124]

Found a bug, I was fighting a horse boy but when the after fight scene started it said he was a cat boy. Great game by the way keep up the good work!

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Random idea for the corruption system and requirements for using specific actions in scenes: kinks/fetishes. When you start the game, you can choose a set of kinks for your PC which represents the weird stuff that your character is into. These kinks eliminate the corruption requirements for actions associated with them. You want to be into breast feeding or being anally penetrated? Go ahead and pick those things. If corruption is added for doing things that go against your PC's set of likes and morals, kinks would also generally prevent corruption gains from that since you already like those things.

 

[SplicedUpReaper]

I cant save the game for some reason, it doesn't let me go to the save menu. Cant load either. When I try to click save, nothing happens.

 

[Innoxia]

Found a bug, I was fighting a horse boy but when the after fight scene started it said he was a cat boy. Great game by the way keep up the good work!

Thanks for the report, I think I know why this occurring, so this should be fixed for the next release.

Random idea for the corruption system and requirements for using specific actions in scenes: kinks/fetishes. When you start the game, you can choose a set of kinks for your PC which represents the weird stuff that your character is into. These kinks eliminate the corruption requirements for actions associated with them. You want to be into breast feeding or being anally penetrated? Go ahead and pick those things. If corruption is added for doing things that go against your PC's set of likes and morals, kinks would also generally prevent corruption gains from that since you already like those things.

That's a good idea to add in corruption-independent character fetishes. I've been thinking of ways to let the player encourage/avoid certain fetish content in the game, and adding in a list of preferred/disliked fetishes would be one way of doing this.

I was thinking of associating specific vulnerabilities with each fetish you take to balance out the fact that they circumvent the corruption system. For example, if you took a "loves anal" fetish, you'd take more willpower damage from an opponent's tease attacks if they offer the promise of anal. I'll look into adding this sort of system when I expand the character creation options (in a few versions).

I cant save the game for some reason, it doesn't let me go to the save menu. Cant load either. When I try to click save, nothing happens.

This bug has been reported a few times, though I'm having some difficulty in tracking it down. Could you let me know what operating system you're using? Also, did you make sure that your Java is the most up-to-date version?

 

[MotoKuchoma]

I like the game a lot, but I would have liked to meet a few NPCs with higher corruption. When losing to NPCs you only get Vanilla tier Oral scenes, its a bit boring.

 

[Mikey]

this. this game is awesome. excited to see what is to come!

 

[Garn]

So I am enjoy this so far. I have to agree with Darkmaster that you should perhaps lower the corruption requirements for some of more basic stuff; like kissing or groping the person your having sex with.
I do want to know if the sex scenes for random encounters include penetration rather then just oral. The option for sex seems to be there but even once both participants have stripped you don't seem able to actually fuck her. Just have to revert to oral. If it makes a difference male pc and female npcs.

 

[MotoKuchoma]

So I am enjoy this so far. I have to agree with Darkmaster that you should perhaps lower the corruption requirements for some of more basic stuff; like kissing or groping the person your having sex with.
I do want to know if the sex scenes for random encounters include penetration rather then just oral. The option for sex seems to be there but even once both participants have stripped you don't seem able to actually fuck her. Just have to revert to oral. If it makes a difference male pc and female npcs.

Also add some ~really~ kinky stuff for high corruption.

 

[Analitor]

There was a bug : I had a female character and no penis whatsoever and but the game acted as if I had one? Maybe it was because my character was androgynous, but still... Also, simple suggestion, it would be nice if the player could chose their pronouns. It would help me with my dysphoria at least. (sometimes I want to play as a male character with a vagina and not be referred as she all the time because she pronouns makes me want to hide and cry all night)

 

[Innoxia]

I like the game a lot, but I would have liked to meet a few NPCs with higher corruption. When losing to NPCs you only get Vanilla tier Oral scenes, its a bit boring.

I'm going to be adding some more 'interesting' sex scenes when I add the next two random enemies, which will be a futa and female demon. I'm spending most of the development time at the moment working on the engine, but once that's all done, I'll be adding lots of new enemies and sex scenes!

So I am enjoy this so far. I have to agree with Darkmaster that you should perhaps lower the corruption requirements for some of more basic stuff; like kissing or groping the person your having sex with.
I do want to know if the sex scenes for random encounters include penetration rather then just oral. The option for sex seems to be there but even once both participants have stripped you don't seem able to actually fuck her. Just have to revert to oral. If it makes a difference male pc and female npcs.

There should be a full intercourse scene available for each random encounter, but the option for it is bugged in the current version, sorry! It will be fixed in the next release. The corruption requirements are also going to be lowered, and I'm adding in fetish mechanics that will enable you to bypass corruption requirements, so options in sex scenes will be far easier to access.

There was a bug : I had a female character and no penis whatsoever and but the game acted as if I had one? Maybe it was because my character was androgynous, but still... Also, simple suggestion, it would be nice if the player could chose their pronouns. It would help me with my dysphoria at least. (sometimes I want to play as a male character with a vagina and not be referred as she all the time because she pronouns makes me want to hide and cry all night)

I'll try and get that bug fixed, androgynous characters should be being treated as though they're female for the purposes of pronouns and such. I'll also definitely do as you suggest, and add a screen in the options menu where you can customise your pronouns and gender names. That should be quite easy to add to the engine, so if it doesn't make it into Friday's release, it should definitely be in the game for version 0.1.68!

 

[MotoKuchoma]

Cool! I do wanna point out that enemies apparently only choose actions they qualify for via corruption requirements and since they cap out at like, 10, this isn't a lot.

Also I'm kinda iffy on the "Arcane Storm makes you bi" kinda thing. In CoC, say, the minotaurs plowed every hole in a rut and didnt really ask PCs they overpowered if they want their dick. Doing it like in your game and forcing consent via magic feels just weird and heavy handed. Either give the player options or acknowledge the non-con part.

 

[Analitor]

Thank you so much for the pronouns thing!!!!!!! You have no idea hot that simple thing can help with dysphoria! (Honestly, a lot of the porn games are really interesting, but I never play them as much because I can't chose my pronouns and it makes me feel really bad and games are supposed to make you feel good)

 

[art926]

Really cool game! Like CoC, but even better! Interface and battle system are better. It just needs more content. Maybe other writers can help with that. CoC was made by many people.

 

[Innoxia]

Cool! I do wanna point out that enemies apparently only choose actions they qualify for via corruption requirements and since they cap out at like, 10, this isn't a lot.

Also I'm kinda iffy on the "Arcane Storm makes you bi" kinda thing. In CoC, say, the minotaurs plowed every hole in a rut and didnt really ask PCs they overpowered if they want their dick. Doing it like in your game and forcing consent via magic feels just weird and heavy handed. Either give the player options or acknowledge the non-con part.

The NPC corruption requirements bug should be fixed now.

I've also been a bit unsure about the way I'm handling the non-con part of the game. I think I'm going to retcon and re-work the lore of how people's sexuality works, but some of the more clearly non-con content will be coming in areas other than Dominion. I wanted Dominion to be more of a "friendly" start to the game, but the next area that's going to be added (the under-city of Submission) will start to introduce more of the forced/corrupt content.

Thank you so much for the pronouns thing!!!!!!! You have no idea hot that simple thing can help with dysphoria! (Honestly, a lot of the porn games are really interesting, but I never play them as much because I can't chose my pronouns and it makes me feel really bad and games are supposed to make you feel good)

You're welcome! ^^
I've added in the first half of it in this latest release, and I'll split the pronoun customisation up into player/NPC variants in the next version.

Really cool game! Like CoC, but even better! Interface and battle system are better. It just needs more content. Maybe other writers can help with that. CoC was made by many people.

Thanks! Once I've finished working on the engine (which should be 95% done by version 0.1.7), I'll be able to focus on adding more content!


I suppose I should also mention that I've just released version 0.1.67. It's a bit of a buggy release, to be honest, but version 0.1.68 should be a lot more polished!

If you wanted to try it out, you can find the download links on my blog: https://lilithsthrone.blogspot.co.uk/

Thanks for all your feedback!

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Gave the new version a poke and I do think you're moving in the right direction. Sex scenes are more satisfying now and I feel like you're making good design choices.

For suggestions, I'll throw out that I think it would make sense to let the player pick a couple fetish perks at the start of the game so you don't have to spend level up perks on them. It's usually not a good idea to mix flavor perks with those that have an impact on gameplay. If you want players to be able to pick fetish perks and other similar customization perks that don't directly affect gameplay, Flexible Survival has a system for that where you gain two different kinds of perks at different levels that affect game stats and sex scene preferences (as well as things like transformation preferences, ex: can't be affected by female transformations, can never lose a specific body part, can only grow endowments not shrink).

 

[balitz Method]

As a general rule that's solid advice but for this game in particular I'd actually say that choosing them as part of character building fits with the game. Unlike a lot of these CoC and TiTS derivative games (and hell, even the originals) Lilith's Throne has so far done a very good job at actually integrating the lewd stuff not only into gameplay but also into character progression. The experience the PC gains is both in combat -and- in sex so it makes perfect sense for fetishes and preferences to develop as part of "leveling up" rather than as a simple trigger for filtering out content like they are in other games. So I'd say the way to go would be to fold them right into the ongoing effort to balance and integrate combat gameplay and sex gameplay; make them both a way to open up scenes to more of (specific thing) and also give the player new sex strengths and weaknesses.

And thematically it's got corruption as a core mechanic so it also makes sense to go less kinky > more kinky rather than start as the kinkmaster and bypass the major mechanic for sexual progression.

 

[lightningshifter]

As a general rule that's solid advice but for this game in particular I'd actually say that choosing them as part of character building fits with the game. Unlike a lot of these CoC and TiTS derivative games (and hell, even the originals) Lilith's Throne has so far done a very good job at actually integrating the lewd stuff not only into gameplay but also into character progression. The experience the PC gains is both in combat -and- in sex so it makes perfect sense for fetishes and preferences to develop as part of "leveling up" rather than as a simple trigger for filtering out content like they are in other games. So I'd say the way to go would be to fold them right into the ongoing effort to balance and integrate combat gameplay and sex gameplay; make them both a way to open up scenes to more of (specific thing) and also give the player new sex strengths and weaknesses.

And thematically it's got corruption as a core mechanic so it also makes sense to go less kinky > more kinky rather than start as the kinkmaster and bypass the major mechanic for sexual progression.

I would have to agree that this game has a good setup with the core mechanics. The perks you can select from each level integrate all of your experiences into a fluid combat system. It's very easy to pick up on which branch or branches you might want to build your character along. I also want to point out that the creator of this game has taken some pretty good steps to ensuring that the combat is balancing out. Just between this 1.67 and the 1.65 version there is a bit of a difference in how some of the combat skills weigh in. It's now more evenly matched than it was then. If you were playing earlier builds you probably would have figured out that seduction attacks are the way to go because they quickly did the most damage overall and ended fights in your favor. They still do that to an extent but it's scaled much more closely in respect to what you gain with the other branches and stats now. It is a very clever balancing act that they have going here. One thing I have noted now is that ranged attacks for me seem to hit a little harder than melee attacks. I wonder if that was intentional or just a byproduct of how I built up from leveling though?

Either way, the corruption elements add their unique flavor to the gameplay too. I can only imagine what the higher levels could entail for the player though. It might have harsh consequences towards certain points.

The present content still seems to be revolving around shaping the core mechanics and UI though. There is a promise of new content in the works for the story soon so that's good. I don't really mind the delays on the story though when I can see many improvements coming into play with each of the presently weekly updates that the game undergoes. I think 0.1.68 should demonstrate a much more polished release than it already is at 0.1.67. I'm actually pretty satisfied with how the gameplay is setting up. The initial area does get a little old fast but it's a good sampler for the things to come I believe.

 

[Borea1]

Can I just ask you to switch the hotkeys from 1-0 to 1-5 and q-t like CoC does it? Much easier to, well, use one-handedly.