Let's talk ship sizes. Specifically the Pirate Corvette and our Z14.

[TW-Luna]

So while wandering the scaffold deck to check for spelling or grammar errors, I got the sense that the pirate corvette is quite massive, from the different descriptions. Now, I always kinda envisioned our Casstech Z14 as sorta around the size of the player ships in SWTOR or like a smaller Serenity. Three personal rooms, the bridge, a common area, the galley, cargo hold, engine room, and a communal shower somewhere in the back of the ship (As per the description). But, with the corvette I'm having trouble imagining what sci-fi ship it might kinda match in size.

And so, I turn to you forum goers. What pops to mind when you're trying to image the Pirate Corvette? And even, do you agree with my visualization of the Z14? Or do you envision it differently?

 

[ChromaTaphore]

I always pictured it as being about the size of a bedroom, with a bathroom and communal storage area off to the side. I'm probably wrong, though.

 

[Savin]

The pirate corvette is a smaller version of the Tantive IV from A New Hope, basically. Less crew space, way more engine.

 

[Couch]

I picture the Casstech as all but literally being the Winnebago from Spaceballs.

 

[nomadbunny]

The pirate corvette is a smaller version of the Tantive IV from A New Hope, basically. Less crew space, way more engine.

I'd fought it be like more the Normandy?

 

[ScarletteKnight]

And here I was imagining Halo Covenant Corvettes....

 

[Raindrops]

The pirate corvette is a smaller version of the Tantive IV from A New Hope, basically. Less crew space, way more engine.

I'm kinda curious about the crew requirements of it... The Tantive required 46 people just to crew it, but also had 39 diplomats and space for "over a 100 passengers". Presumably, with the corvette being a smaller version, the crew complement and passenger capacity would decrease, but by how much?

And, thinking a bit further on this; when we eventually get capital ships, how many crew will they require? I guess you can automate most of it, but will there be "faceless crew" for any of the ships? Could be fun to make sex scenes (possibly in the masturbation menu) where Steele goes and grabs a random crewmember and fucks her just because she can

 

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I'd fought it be like more the Normandy?

IIRC the Normandy was a frigate-class ship. Waaaaay bigger than the space Winnebago and smaller than a corvette.

 

[TW-Luna]

I'm kinda curious about the crew requirements of it... The Tantive required 46 people just to crew it, but also had 39 diplomats and space for "over a 100 passengers". Presumably, with the corvette being a smaller version, the crew complement and passenger capacity would decrease, but by how much

This is an interesting point, especially if we are destined to take this corvette for ourselves. What we could see of the Corellian Corvette bridge in Rogue One showed us at least two people seated at the bridge controls. But we also saw the bridge of a Hammerhead Corvette, where the skeleton crew was 5 people on the bridge. So are we going to be able to fly away with this Pirate Corvette solo? Let alone be able to fly it later on.

Then again, maybe we don't end up making off with the ship after all.

 

[TW-Luna]

IIRC the Normandy was a frigate-class ship. Waaaaay bigger than the space Winnebago and smaller than a corvette.

It would seem that frigates are actually larger than corvettes.

"The term "frigate" was readopted during the Second World War by the British Royal Navy to describe an anti-submarine escort vessel that was larger than a corvette, while smaller than a destroyer. Equal in size and capability to the American destroyer escort, frigates are usually less expensive to build and maintain."

 

[Raindrops]

IIRC the Normandy was a frigate-class ship. Waaaaay bigger than the space Winnebago and smaller than a corvette.

Pretty sure frigates are usually considered larger than corvettes in space-navy lingo (subject to change depending on which specific universe you're talking about)

Most scifi I know of use Corvette as the, or one of the, smallest capital ships (as in, non-fighter ships), with Frigates being more midsized. Destroyers can be anything, but dreadnaughts or battleships are always fuckhuge

 

[null_blank]

See this is why the current ship interactions with Paige as your navigator is hilarious to me. Steele could literally stick her head out of her room and yell orders and she'd hear you.

 

[Xeivous]

You severely overestimate how soundproof the ship is.

You could communicate by dick slapping the opposite end of the ship as her in morse code.

 

[Evil]

Pretty sure frigates are usually considered larger than corvettes in space-navy lingo (subject to change depending on which specific universe you're talking about)

Most scifi I know of use Corvette as the, or one of the, smallest capital ships (as in, non-fighter ships), with Frigates being more midsized. Destroyers can be anything, but dreadnaughts or battleships are always fuckhuge

It depends on how you define a frigate in the TiTS-verse. In our own history, frigates have gone from being small, quick and manoeuvrable to ships that serve as escorts, on par with destroyers. While traditionally corvettes were basically little more than scout ships, in fact, they're often seen as the smallest type of ship you can consider a warship.

With regards to the Casstech, I've always seen it as more of a glorified shuttle, a sleeper-bus with a warp engine attached (of course, it doesn't look like a bus, its just as big as one). Now, a normal sleeper bus might be able to comfortable fit 8-15 people, if they have a single bunk each. Or rip out a few bunks, make a couple of "rooms", and you have the Casstech's 3 bunks. Throw in the kind of kitchen where everything folds into the walls or maximises the extremely limited space. The luggage area becomes a cargo hold and so on. Ultimately, you have something that does what its supposed to, getting you from Point A to Point B. Its not a luxurious cruise, its just comfortable enough and everyone on board gets a degree of privacy.

 

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Eh. I based the sizes from my experiences in ME and SW Galaxies: Jump to Lightspeed.

Corellian Corvettes are pretty big.

 

[Raindrops]

Eh. I based the sizes from my experiences in ME and SW Galaxies: Jump to Lightspeed.

Corellian Corvettes are pretty big.

They're 'bout 150 meters or so... Honestly not particularly large given how Star Wars works. Using Fantasy Flight Games' Star Wars RPG (not a 100% reliable source, but it's decent enough), a Corvellian Corvette is a Size Category 5 vehicle... That's the minimum possible to be considered a Capital ship (4 are freighters and such, while 3 are starfighters. 2 and 1 are generally personal craft... Like, size category 1 is a speederbike and category 2 is like a truck or something, I think)

For scale, a Star Destroyer has a Size Category of 8

 

[Savin]

I'm kinda curious about the crew requirements of it...

The Sidewinder only needs 1 specific crewman to operate (spoiler: it ain't you). Sans that it would probably (realistically) need like 10-20 people to fully crew, though I don't think we're going to have a "minimum crew" stat enforced.

 

[Evil]

Using Fantasy Flight Games' Star Wars RPG (not a 100% reliable source, but it's decent enough)

Eh, usually when a company has a license for something like Star Wars, one of the legal requirements is that there is a liaison between the two companies to help ensure there is a certain level of lore fidelity. And Fantasy Flight is a good company for making sure they stick to the lore.

 

[Raindrops]

The Sidewinder only needs 1 specific crewman to operate (spoiler: it ain't you). Sans that it would probably (realistically) need like 10-20 people to fully crew, though I don't think we're going to have a "minimum crew" stat enforced.

Fair enough. I didn't expect us to have to go around and actually deal with the faceless crew other than maybe a sentence that mentions they exist, I was just kinda curious! Plus, as mentioned, they would be useful for random sex scenes, especially for an exhibitionistic Steele

Eh, usually when a company has a license for something like Star Wars, one of the legal requirements is that there is a liaison between the two companies to help ensure there is a certain level of lore fidelity. And Fantasy Flight is a good company for making sure they stick to the lore.

True there. I just put it there as a disclaimer in case someone with stronger StarWars-fu came along to disprove me

 

[TFMaster]

True there. I just put it there as a disclaimer in case someone with stronger StarWars-fu came along to disprove me

I believe think what you should’ve said is, “in case someone who is stronger in the ways of the force comes along.”!

 

[Raindrops]

I believe think what you should’ve said is, “in case someone who is stronger in the ways of the force comes along.”!

Fuck, I missed that opportunity *so* hard

 

[Xeivous]

I think my tastes in sci-fi have left me not giving a fuck bout a ship that isn't at least a km long. Honestly my dream ship for Steele would probably be akin to the Phalanx outta 40k.

Aka a ship so fuckhuge you can dock a number of multi-km ships on it and it's also got basically it's on micro-biomes in it's main bay.

 

[A79]

We need an SDF-1. Lol

 

[RevekXLR]

This is the official art of CassTech 14 From old Patreon times when the game was crowdfunded. Why isnt this image used in TiTS wiki in our ships lore tab https://wiki.smutosaur.us/TiTS/Casstech_Z14?

 

[Raindrops]

This is the official art of CassTech 14 From old Patreon times when the game was crowdfunded. Why isnt this image used in TiTS wiki in our ships lore tab https://wiki.smutosaur.us/TiTS/Casstech_Z14?

Huh, that acutally looks pretty fucking sweet

 

[Foxxling]

This is the official art of CassTech 14 From old Patreon times when the game was crowdfunded. Why isnt this image used in TiTS wiki in our ships lore tab https://wiki.smutosaur.us/TiTS/Casstech_Z14?

Wish it had an entryway or some sort of person standing next to it for scale but yeah it doesn't look too bad for a space bus

 

[Linarahn]

Why does the Casstech look so much like a mosquito space marine helmet?

 

[Savin]

Wish it had an entryway or some sort of person standing next to it for scale but yeah it doesn't look too bad for a space bus

It ain't perfect, but you can usually get a general feel for the size of a ship based on the forward obs. deck's window size. Figure a person's maybe half as tall as one of the vents on the side there.

Compare to Kiro's giant leaf over here. Big enough for a Casstech to park inside it.

 

[Raindrops]

Big enough for a Casstech to park inside it.

I mean, it does infact park inside it when you go save Kiro IIRC

also, TIL there's a pic of Kiro's ship. It's much larger than expected

 

[Xeivous]

that image of the casstech does rather remind me of the size of the ships you get in Tortanic