Just started a new game, and I seem to have a negative 4 modifier to both aim and physique.

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Like the title says, my aim and physique stats stats are modified by -4, and since I have 2 and 3 in those stats, they are now zero. No statuses active on my character, no perks besides the one I chose in character creation. Unfortunately I didn't notice when this flip happened and I saved over my only file so I can't figure out where it happened. I tried sleeping and it didn't fix it, checked for diseases at the clinic and nothing. Is this a bug, or am I just missing something?
 

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Theron

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That is really weird. I'd say it's probably a bug. It's possible there's a hidden status effect on your character or a temporary modifier became permanent somehow. If you upload your save, we might be able to diagnose it.
 
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That is really weird. I'd say it's probably a bug. It's possible there's a hidden status effect on your character or a temporary modifier became permanent somehow. If you upload your save, we might be able to diagnose it.
Here it is. Thankfully I'm only a few hours in, so I'll probably just start a new game of it does turn out to be a bug.
 

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Theron

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Well, I'm stumped. I can fix it for you, but I have no idea how it happened.

You might want to start a new game anyway and retrace your steps in the hopes of finding out what caused it.
You didn't do any save-editing, I assume.
 
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Well, I'm stumped. I can fix it for you, but I have no idea how it happened.

You might want to start a new game anyway and retrace your steps in the hopes of finding out what caused it.
You didn't do any save-editing, I assume.
Nope, no save-editing. Unfortunate, but I think I'll just start a new run. You think I should put this in bugs reports?
 

Theron

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Nope, no save-editing. Unfortunate, but I think I'll just start a new run. You think I should put this in bugs reports?
I don't think they can do much with it, given the lack of information. If you do figure out how to reproduce it, definitely report it.
 
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I don't think they can do much with it, given the lack of information. If you do figure out how to reproduce it, definitely report it.
I'll try, but this was a pretty standard run as far as I'm aware, I don't know if I'll find anything. Thanks for putting in the time and effort to help me, I appreciate it.
 

TheShepard256

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I think I've seen something like this before, recently. Did you get into a fight with the naleen female, and did she inject you with her venom? IIRC, that gives a -4 penalty to Physique and Aim, and is supposed to go back to normal once the status effect is removed, but I've seen reports that indicate otherwise.
 

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TheShephard is right. Even though the poison is gone the game forgot to wipe the stat debuff it seems. I reaplied the poison and it fixed itself. Just move a few tiles and you're good. Although you should probably create a bug report regardles cause this is definitely a bug.
 

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Interesting. I didn't notice getting injected, but I wasn't super paying attention to every combat I got into so it's not impossible. I'll definitely send a bug report.