Foxwife 2: Electric Boogaloo (Found a issue)

Elemazo

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Title is more for amusement than anything But I found a little issue lorewise after doing a different sort of run. I love the Kitsune don't get me wrong, they're great and ironically enough the most human acting of all the races lorewise right now. They have faults, good traits, bad traits. All bundled up in the glorious clusterfuck that is tradition and decorum that simply does not change quickly due to longevity (Heck you can even see this trait in Harry Potter, Magical people live so long that while most of the world has progressed rapidly, they're still stuck victorian at best!)

But that's not the point I was trying to make. The issue I've uncovered was after attempting a different kind of approach. Doing everything and binding oneself to the kitsune 'before' finding Kiyoko's pendant. Went whole shebang, took control of the orcs, saved the centaurs. Cleansed some hornets, Put a bird in a tower, pat a pup. Debated a Druid, ran a train on some Dryads, figured out the truth and all I got was this lousy mirror. Deposed a corrupt politician . The list goes on and I'm running out of amusing phrases to describe the quests. POINT BEING. I got turned into Keros' champion complete with fluffy tails and with a fake soul that may or may not say made in taiwan somewhere on it. And so then I finally go solve some riddles and snag the necklace of eternal foxwifeitude.

She treats you as if you're just some random shmuck and doesn't draw attention to you being kitsune or Keros' champion at all. You can still ask her about Kitsune and she doesn't just point at you and go "You're kidding right?" Godswar and astral plane dialogue is fine. But I'd think that questions regarding race and history have some minor tweaks, mostly to point out that you should already know this due to your station, but perhaps you're asking in order to see from her perspective / see how much time has passed. (Fun Fact: We don't obviously. But it's nice to have the benefit of the doubt sometimes) And again in dialogue inside the Astral plane, if you ask about Keros she treats it as if you're just some potato and not just trying to get new perspectives on your assumed boss.

I'd assume you showing up in all your splendor, especially considering you're quite literally touched by the divine when you drift on into her humble abode. She'd act even more giddy about there being someone there, and instead think "Holy shit! Keros' Champion themselves are coming to finally save me from this torment!" Probably in a much classier and eloquent way but. You get the point I'm trying to make. Especially considering we don't need to ask about feeding and chi, as that on the other hand is covered quite nicely by Keros when he converts us. If anything Miss MILF-to-Be should be asking the question as to why as what is essentially the Kitsune of Kitsunes has so much life energy for themselves. something that to my knowledge they don't naturally produce themselves due to the whole soul thing.

I dunno I guess it just seems like a small oversight that only comes up in a niche approach to the game, but Still I think it would be nice to have this Champion of Keros come wandering in, Her hopes soar higher and higher, and then realize not only are they nearly completely ignorant of their customs and language. But that she'd basically be teaching him things he should already know due to his position (time not really being something she can keep track of inside the planes.) While she'd still ask for the questline to proceed as normal and give her a metric fuckload of babies. I think the idea of her also teaching you your station and things you should know would be seen as her both giving equivilent exchange as per their customs Along with as some divine given quest to educate the Champion in order to properly earn her freedom. While again, her freedom is guaranteed so long as we proceed down the questline. Based on what I personally get from understanding the Kitsune and their methodology, she'd still happily wish to be your wife, but also want to help you grow into the best champion you can be.

Not to mention the side note at the end of this thought process being that if Keros has shaped you personally as his champion, Going through the process of making Kinu? Wouldn't she have an even stronger connection to the divine beyond her family status and the fact her dad is literally her god's right and man? Perhaps boosted Presence/Cunning or something? Doesn't need to be a overhaul of her or anything just a sort of Else/if argument of "If Champion of Keros: Then +2 to X, Else +0" Or something, I don't code I'm just a potato in the end.
 

Salomon

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maybe i'm going crazy or something, but i saw a dialogue similar to that line of thought when i made my kitsune champion!
first I found the Ruined Shrine in the old forest, I took the orb, I met Kiyoko, I accepted the Evergreen mission, I entered the Den of Foxes, I kicked some tails until I found Komari, I did the Nakano mission, I sold my soul to Keros and only then I started producing children with Kiyoko as if we were a Ford factory in Detroit!
result: at a certain moment, when the champion talks about Kinu after taking her out of the astral plane, he talks about her ancestry on the part of Kiyoko AND the champion, calling her a pure blood kitsune!
I don't know if it happened because I only related to Kiyoko AFTER I became a Kitsune, so I will test it with other configurations!
 

MeIsntVeryCreative

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Interesting that more variant for the earlier floof encounter is planned. (sort of?)

I don't know if it happened because I only related to Kiyoko AFTER I became a Kitsune, so I will test it with other configurations!
I had my fair share of grind regarding kitsune content as well though I don't think I've seen the content you have mentioned. The only mention regarding kitsune blood/lineage/whatever related to Champion of Keros and your floof family is during the (pre-)soul binding scene where Keros mentioned how kitsune breed true because of their soulless nature and the marriage scene where he considered matrilineal line from one of his concubine being "beautiful and unbroken", despite the fact that Champion "formerly" being a "barbarian". Don't think I've seen something like that anywhere else. Either way it would be world/lore-breaking since that will contradicting with what Keros has said before.

The concept OP brought is pretty interesting that Champion of Keros can potentially exploit Astral Plane time dilation effect to integrate with the kitsune society, etiquette or else. Although since part of the Keros deal is that Champion would struggle with it, which serve him as a form of entertainment, so I doubted that Keros or Tobs would allow it LULW.

Honestly I expected that Taoth would cause more catastrophic damage than
Kinu's short story kinda bursted my dream so LULW
 

WolframL

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You do know that Kinu's quest that we have now is just the beginning of the story, right?
 
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Salomon

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You do know that Kinu's quest that we have now is just the beginning of the story, right?
I REALLY hope that we have a chance to kick Taoth’s skinny ass back to Mareth! Because after all the suffering and anguish he caused Urta throughout her life, he deserved to have his tail plucked and stuck in his ass so deeply, that every time he has an idea, he will feel it tickling his brain!!!:mad: