Fenris Class Assault Drone Question

[Ormael]

Yeah Drones and Superior Shields both looks like each could/should be defining trait for techs. But then it would be fleshing out 2 thing when I honestly not sure what would be similar prominent trait for smugglers and merc then. been umber tanky by merc? having godly evasion and aoe/cc type of attacks by smuggler?

 

[Couch]

Hmm, might put one in the Hunter's Dream on Uveto. Would make sense for a variety of reasons.

If you do that, I really do recommend making Attack Drone provide a benefit to the power of your drones, not just the base drone itself.  Otherwise you've reduced the whole perk to 1 point of Shields per level.


I also recommend making drones a non-accessory slot, but that's unrelated.

 

[Zavos]

My early days as a Tech user firmly turned me away from the use of drones as general.  It simply cannot compete with the Shield alternatives for use.  If drones absolutely must be looked at, i would like to see them as their own equipment slot, with their use not taking away from the Tech's shield. 

 

[Ormael]

Yeah with time and buffing shield perk it made picking drone one perk even less of interesting option.


@Savin which one perk of tech from lvl2 you like more? For shields of drone? (since you been much involved in making tech class I think you got some opinion which one perk is cooler)

 

[Savin]

which one perk of tech from lvl2 you like more?

Oh, Drone for sure. Getting to play with drones was the big push behind designing Tech Specialists in the first place.

 

[Ormael]

Oh, Drone for sure. Getting to play with drones was the big push behind designing Tech Specialists in the first place.

Another person that likes more drone perk over shield perk here. My faith in fen forum restored xD


Seeing how all was telling shield perk is so much better I was getting more and more depresed (since I always liked drone perk more only cried when drones wasn't getting enough love :/ )

 

[Etis]

Another person that likes more drone perk over shield perk here. My faith in fen forum restored xD


Seeing how all was telling shield perk is so much better I was getting more and more depresed (since I always liked drone perk more only cried when drones wasn't getting enough love :/ )

Drone is cool concept, but there are 2 problems: drones are currently weak and useless for one who likes lust combat. Sad, but I'm sticking with 72 extra shield points now - that's extra 1-3 turns of survival, like passive Power Surge (and adds extra space for maneuvers with shields regeneration).

 

[eveoflife]

Another person that likes more drone perk over shield perk here. My faith in fen forum restored xD


Seeing how all was telling shield perk is so much better I was getting more and more depresed (since I always liked drone perk more only cried when drones wasn't getting enough love :/ )

Same, I went and tested a shield based Tech up until I took Tam Wolf. Maxed it out to see how different the stats were, then just reverted back to drone.

 

[Etis]

Same, I went and tested a shield based Tech up until I took Tam Wolf. Maxed it out to see how different the stats were, then just reverted back to drone.

BTW, if you are using TamWolf, you have no reason to take drone perk at all. You'll only lose 25% extra electricity damage from TamWolf MK2.

 

[Ormael]

Drone is cool concept, but there are 2 problems: drones are currently weak and useless for one who likes lust combat. Sad, but I'm sticking with 72 extra shield points now - that's extra 1-3 turns of survival, like passive Power Surge (and adds extra space for maneuvers with shields regeneration).

Nowadays shield perk giving 8 sp per lvl not 4 like in old days while drone truly insignificant 1 sp per lvl. I could say it's more of fen dislike to make drones strong than savin creating them so weak. Already back in at old forum Savin once or twice linked to what Tam Wolf 'supposed to be'. ANd that one version really lived up to expectation of battle drone using fenris name. But faith will never die for me that those glorious promises still could be more than now fullfilled.

 

[Xeivous]

Nowadays shield perk giving 8 sp per lvl not 4 like in old days while drone truly insignificant 1 sp per lvl. I could say it's more of fen dislike to make drones strong than savin creating them so weak. Already back in at old forum Savin once or twice linked to what Tam Wolf 'supposed to be'. ANd that one version really lived up to expectation of battle drone using fenris name. But faith will never die for me that those glorious promises still could be more than now fullfilled.

I'm curious as to what Tamwolf was supposed to be.

 

[Ormael]

@Savin Could you lend a lil help to poor soul like me and tell how glorious you designed Tam Wolf to be orginaly? I feel I may not been able precise describe how badass this robo-puppy supposed to be

 

[Savin]

@Savin Could you lend a lil help to poor soul like me and tell how glorious you designed Tam Wolf to be orginaly? I feel I may not been able precise describe how badass this robo-puppy supposed to be

He was originally supposed to do a little more damage and have an oil-slick ability, I think. Been a few years; can't really remember more than that.

 

[eveoflife]

He was originally supposed to do a little more damage and have an oil-slick ability, I think. Been a few years; can't really remember more than that.

I laughed so hard when it pulled that stunt on me, was sad that I couldn't replicate it when I took Tam Wolf. I'm curious about this "Hunters Dream" shop, they sell a variety of dog models? That might open up a upgrade options for the pooch, where they each come with a special ability like running around venting lust fumes or such things like  your oil slick.

 

[Ormael]

I hope aside some Fenrir and similar class types there will be at least one Baster class drone.

 

[eveoflife]

I hope aside some Fenrir and similar class types there will be at least one Baster class drone.

Baster?

 

[Ormael]

Ughh damn I thought I not made typo -_-' I was Bastet not that fail word I left in the end

 

[TankHunter678]

Perhaps the Attack Drone should be changed so that it has its own equip menu and the player can mount weapon/support/module systems they bought for it?


Some examples being...


Galotian Gun (MKI/II/III): self explanatory, for lust based characters.


Shield Booster (MKI/II/III): Restores x amount of shield per turn


Stun Gun (MKI/II/III): Drone no longer deals damage, has a % chance to stun the target (internal x turn cooldown, stunned target cannot be restunned again for x turns to prevent stunlock)


Bind Claws: Drone attempts to grab and hold the target, if successful target must struggle free (possible use in Dom based sex scenes)


Could apply similar to other drone types as they are developed. Heh, maybe have one so TamWolf goes into a rutting frenzy at the sight of its old master.

 

[Ormael]

That idea could be good but than people that play smuggs or mers more often will cry that Techs again are way too OP. SOmething would need then be done to not make this system for drones sounds like techs are class within they own league as the moment drone goes into the fray it mean PC won, while other classes need work hard. So no not saying this thing is bad it jsut wil need hella lot of work to make it fit with current game.


But I really love to see something liek that added tot he game.


As for other classes...well maybe make something liek that as generic system for drones and say...allow other classes acces some really basic drones with really primitive upgrading options. Then tech that got shield perk would have some around 1/2 to 2/3 of all upgrade option accesable and drone techs ofc all options. Not sure if that won;t make drone a cheap concept that everyone can have even if merc got some really crap low lvl one while tech with drone perk got super advanced and upgraded one drone.

 

[Couch]

It's much simpler for the tech's features to provide stat bonuses to drones such as increased damage or shields, and not try to do it by restricting equipment.

 

[shadefalcon]

It's much simpler for the tech's features to provide stat bonuses to drones such as increased damage or shields, and not try to do it by restricting equipment.

This would make the tech specialist seem more like a tamer class. Primarily focusing on upgrading their pet (drone).


I would've actually enjoyed that. I love the drones and I'm hoping to see a lust based one soon. I'm also for having a seperate drone slot, or something like that, so that the drone techs don't have to waste an accessory slot that can be used on better things like dusters f. ex.

 

[Ormael]

@Couch So as I see your idea would be more like drone is a base temple with weak stats. But during playing game PC that use it will add various bonuses depending on it own stats. So Techs that max various stats would give different bonuses. Thou if that would be the case I think Techs will become first class that actualy semi-force PC to max stats as with all stats maxed drone would be at it strongest state. But if that bonusues would be somehow balanced to not force PC to max stats or similar thing to get strongest version of drone it would be beneficial for everyone.

 

[eveoflife]

That idea could be good but than people that play smuggs or mers more often will cry that Techs again are way too OP. SOmething would need then be done to not make this system for drones sounds like techs are class within they own league as the moment drone goes into the fray it mean PC won, while other classes need work hard. So no not saying this thing is bad it jsut wil need hella lot of work to make it fit with current game.


But I really love to see something liek that added tot he game.


As for other classes...well maybe make something liek that as generic system for drones and say...allow other classes acces some really basic drones with really primitive upgrading options. Then tech that got shield perk would have some around 1/2 to 2/3 of all upgrade option accesable and drone techs ofc all options. Not sure if that won;t make drone a cheap concept that everyone can have even if merc got some really crap low lvl one while tech with drone perk got super advanced and upgraded one drone.

Others complained Tech was to OP? I'd have thought the Dr.Lash concept changed that.

 

[Couch]

@Couch So as I see your idea would be more like drone is a base temple with weak stats. But during playing game PC that use it will add various bonuses depending on it own stats. So Techs that max various stats would give different bonuses. Thou if that would be the case I think Techs will become first class that actualy semi-force PC to max stats as with all stats maxed drone would be at it strongest state. But if that bonusues would be somehow balanced to not force PC to max stats or similar thing to get strongest version of drone it would be beneficial for everyone.

No, you misunderstand.


I mean rewrite the perks so that you take the Attack Drone perk, any drone you have equipped does more damage.  Rewrite the shield-boosting perk to instead cause your drone to give you more shields.  Swap out Shield Hack for a perk that allows drones to do a few points of their damage through shields, so on and so forth.  Don't do this for every Tech perk, but put more emphasis on them using drones better than other classes instead of being divided by what drones they use.

 

[Ormael]

No, you misunderstand.


I mean rewrite the perks so that you take the Attack Drone perk, any drone you have equipped does more damage.  Rewrite the shield-boosting perk to instead cause your drone to give you more shields.  Swap out Shield Hack for a perk that allows drones to do a few points of their damage through shields, so on and so forth.  Don't do this for every Tech perk, but put more emphasis on them using drones better than other classes instead of being divided by what drones they use.

Ohh ok my bad. I thought about something else when read your post.


So it's about changing lvl 2 perks choice to be drone-relate perk plus no automaticaly magical crafted drones for PC so s/he need find some vendor that sells drones to buy and use in acc/drone slot. And eventual future perks to be giving some modifications to way drone works. Am I now getting more accurate what you proposing as changes to drones Couch?