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<blockquote data-quote="Aelana" data-source="post: 431119" data-attributes="member: 33513"><p>*poking my head out of my hiatus-hole</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I pretty much agree.</p><p></p><p>And I very much disagree with this statement. I know it's the official reason given, but IMO it might as well be: "It is this way, because it is".</p><p></p><p>As a start for my rant: I full-heartetly disagree with looking at CoC as a "product" with "customers". I think patreon has given the authors some power to write the weird stuff they like to write. I'd rather read that than any "customer focussed" text. If another anal scene is what the authors want to write, then I am all for it.</p><p></p><p>Now, when it comes to M/M stuff, I always get the same arguments</p><p></p><p>1. It is niche</p><p>2. Its only for male players, and most play as female.</p><p></p><p>About Nr 1: My counter-example is knotting back in the beginning of TiTs. Back in those days you could easily get a knot. But Syri was the only character which acknowledged the PCs knot, and also could knot the PC. There should be a thread lurking around about why it was only Syri, and the answer given there was pretty much the same. It is down to the authors to support, and it is a niche thing. Oh how far knotting has come. Nowadays in CoC2 it might as well be a standard feature. Knots are widely supported. IMO its support has pushed knotting out of its niche. So in a way, parts are niche because they are niche.</p><p></p><p>2. PCs being female. To which I have to say, really?</p><p></p><p>Since gender in these games is largely disconnected to the PCs plumbing, gender differences in scenes often come down to having breasts. And I as a female player do not feel it, honestly. Most scenes barely acknowledges the existence of PCs breasts. Like a kiss, maybe a grope. If You'd want some breast/nipple play, it is even less supported. I would bet there are more knotting scenes than breastplay-receiving scenes in CoC2 (OK, the numbers may be skewed a bit thanks to KM. But still... Isn't breatplay like super milktoast stuff?)</p><p></p><p></p><p>So IMO there is not that much female PC specific stuff anyways. That's why I disagree with this argument.</p><p></p><p>Back to Nr1. Something being niche has never stopped CoC before. Evelyn has a whole scene devoted to small-dick pcs losing their virginity. That is niche. And AFAIK her further small dick scenes are locked behind this interaction. So there is a considerable niche chunk.</p><p></p><p>And it is not that there is precedent in CoC2 for a similar thing. I might have argued in the past that F/F interactions mostly do not feel gay at all. And honestly, it does not take much. Aileh has a few extra lines that make the interactions with her feel wonderfully gay. There is a cheesy one-liner from a female shaman NPC if you sex her. I don't want every scene to be rewritten. All I hope is for variety. A new NPC which steps out of line.</p><p></p><p>And guys, there is a parser. As long as an M/M scene is not actively gender-locked, it will kinda work for female PCs as well. Because there is a real lack of male NPCs sucking girl-dick.</p><p></p><p>So all I am truly saying is, I do not like the justification, I just hope for some variety. Like Yonzan.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aelana, post: 431119, member: 33513"] *poking my head out of my hiatus-hole Yeah, I pretty much agree. And I very much disagree with this statement. I know it's the official reason given, but IMO it might as well be: "It is this way, because it is". As a start for my rant: I full-heartetly disagree with looking at CoC as a "product" with "customers". I think patreon has given the authors some power to write the weird stuff they like to write. I'd rather read that than any "customer focussed" text. If another anal scene is what the authors want to write, then I am all for it. Now, when it comes to M/M stuff, I always get the same arguments 1. It is niche 2. Its only for male players, and most play as female. About Nr 1: My counter-example is knotting back in the beginning of TiTs. Back in those days you could easily get a knot. But Syri was the only character which acknowledged the PCs knot, and also could knot the PC. There should be a thread lurking around about why it was only Syri, and the answer given there was pretty much the same. It is down to the authors to support, and it is a niche thing. Oh how far knotting has come. Nowadays in CoC2 it might as well be a standard feature. Knots are widely supported. IMO its support has pushed knotting out of its niche. So in a way, parts are niche because they are niche. 2. PCs being female. To which I have to say, really? Since gender in these games is largely disconnected to the PCs plumbing, gender differences in scenes often come down to having breasts. And I as a female player do not feel it, honestly. Most scenes barely acknowledges the existence of PCs breasts. Like a kiss, maybe a grope. If You'd want some breast/nipple play, it is even less supported. I would bet there are more knotting scenes than breastplay-receiving scenes in CoC2 (OK, the numbers may be skewed a bit thanks to KM. But still... Isn't breatplay like super milktoast stuff?) So IMO there is not that much female PC specific stuff anyways. That's why I disagree with this argument. Back to Nr1. Something being niche has never stopped CoC before. Evelyn has a whole scene devoted to small-dick pcs losing their virginity. That is niche. And AFAIK her further small dick scenes are locked behind this interaction. So there is a considerable niche chunk. And it is not that there is precedent in CoC2 for a similar thing. I might have argued in the past that F/F interactions mostly do not feel gay at all. And honestly, it does not take much. Aileh has a few extra lines that make the interactions with her feel wonderfully gay. There is a cheesy one-liner from a female shaman NPC if you sex her. I don't want every scene to be rewritten. All I hope is for variety. A new NPC which steps out of line. And guys, there is a parser. As long as an M/M scene is not actively gender-locked, it will kinda work for female PCs as well. Because there is a real lack of male NPCs sucking girl-dick. So all I am truly saying is, I do not like the justification, I just hope for some variety. Like Yonzan. [/QUOTE]
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