Does anyone else not really enjoy Azzyrran anymore? So, with the recent patch news for 4.3, a new CG got added for Azzy with Liaden and I'm feeling a little conflicted... Azzy was probably one of my favorite OG characters in the game other than Brienne. Mainly because it felt like a relationship was developing and at a pretty solid pace throughout the content being added, much of it was pretty wholesome and endearing along with the more lewd stuff inside the actual hive itself.
Now though, I kinda feel... like I got NTRd or something here, in the first place this game very obviously is for a lot of different people, sexualities, fetishes, etc. Frankly, it's been great to see the different kinds of relationships and the aspects and opened my eyes in some ways. Now I don't wanna just seem like I'm bitching across the board or anything because I don't think it really adds anything to a game I really like, I just wanna get it off my chest and maybe offer some constructive criticism or ideas to the pool as well.
Azzy once you go through the whole sequence of saving the hive is pretty hot and heavy about Liaden, and you can say "nope" to the option, but it's going to just keep recurring until you cave in or just be persistent. What's bothering me truly is that it's not really discussed between your character and Azzy, it just.. kinda happens right? With Azzy it's just not really discussed beyond assisting her for a flirt and now she and Liaden seem to kinda be an item while your character is brushed off to the side.
Point blank when you ask Cait to bone it's like, "Hey I get it you want the sex thing, even I want the sex thing, but monogamy is not really my thing because of my religion and how I was raised to be" and you've got ground rules setup right? This really is great because it makes Cait to me feel like she's a wingman who doesn't mind getting her hands (and tail) dirty in the moment(s).
Liaden herself also doesn't really have any involvement with your character either (and this game obviously is a work in progress so maybe it's in the queue) but, on top of seemingly moving in and doing the deed with Azzy, it's hard to really get a bead on the relationship because it feels like Azzy is having a double relationship without anyone really clearing the boundaries and the air about the situation. Azzy is definitely indebted to BOTH the Champion and Liaden, and I can understand why she would feel the way she does about either, but I feel like an important step got skipped over where they sit down and discuss, even if it's just a brief blurb in the dialogue about the parameters of the relationship.
I think generally with most characters it's just thrown out there or implied well enough within the text about their preferences and what not so you can take it or leave it whether you want to mess with them or not. With Azzy it's only really hashed in about halfway through her current content and seems to be moving in the direction with Liaden being a persistent element to her character instead of a one-off thing.
Now to some ideas here (because I don't want to just seem like I'm ranting even though I totally am about fictional relationships and characters)
1. I feel like the biggest thing in the game, if you decline to help Azzy flirt, then that should just be the end of it, and possibly, not move any more of the content with Liaden forward. I mentioned it above, but you just keep getting the option over and over again and it should be pretty clear that if the champion is not going to help her flirt that (s)he's uncomfortable with doing so and doesn't want to progress that route.
2. There's some sort of clarity to the relationship itself, an intervention? I don't know if that's really the right thing to have to do here, NTRd probably is an extreme approximation because there's not really a clear exclusivity established in the first place with Azzy, but also, it sorta felt like a bait and switch I guess? You have a pretty solid solo relationship going forward with her for half the time and then Liaden is introduced and you're now in an open relationship all of a sudden without much thought or action.
That's pretty much the end of my thoughts though, and I'd like to make some stipulations as well, first and foremost, the game is a work in progress. I feel like this way NOW because like aforementioned, Liaden doesn't have any content at all solo with the character, and I think that's what makes this the most off-putting to me along with the non-consent/switch-up going into the relationship with the character. This is subject to change in the future but as of now, I think I'm just going to leave Azzy and the hive alone. Second, I love you writers, artists, and coders for the game. In no way am I simply trying to put you down or be belligerent about how YOU as the creators are making your content or where you want to go with it. It's well within your rights to do whatever you please with the character(s) and how they play, I just really wanted to scream into the internet void and maybe be heard. Take it all with the smallest grain of salt you can find.
TLDR; I don't enjoy where Azzy's relationship has gone and feel it could use some tweaking (no lewd intended) to make it feel better overall
Now though, I kinda feel... like I got NTRd or something here, in the first place this game very obviously is for a lot of different people, sexualities, fetishes, etc. Frankly, it's been great to see the different kinds of relationships and the aspects and opened my eyes in some ways. Now I don't wanna just seem like I'm bitching across the board or anything because I don't think it really adds anything to a game I really like, I just wanna get it off my chest and maybe offer some constructive criticism or ideas to the pool as well.
Azzy once you go through the whole sequence of saving the hive is pretty hot and heavy about Liaden, and you can say "nope" to the option, but it's going to just keep recurring until you cave in or just be persistent. What's bothering me truly is that it's not really discussed between your character and Azzy, it just.. kinda happens right? With Azzy it's just not really discussed beyond assisting her for a flirt and now she and Liaden seem to kinda be an item while your character is brushed off to the side.
Point blank when you ask Cait to bone it's like, "Hey I get it you want the sex thing, even I want the sex thing, but monogamy is not really my thing because of my religion and how I was raised to be" and you've got ground rules setup right? This really is great because it makes Cait to me feel like she's a wingman who doesn't mind getting her hands (and tail) dirty in the moment(s).
Liaden herself also doesn't really have any involvement with your character either (and this game obviously is a work in progress so maybe it's in the queue) but, on top of seemingly moving in and doing the deed with Azzy, it's hard to really get a bead on the relationship because it feels like Azzy is having a double relationship without anyone really clearing the boundaries and the air about the situation. Azzy is definitely indebted to BOTH the Champion and Liaden, and I can understand why she would feel the way she does about either, but I feel like an important step got skipped over where they sit down and discuss, even if it's just a brief blurb in the dialogue about the parameters of the relationship.
I think generally with most characters it's just thrown out there or implied well enough within the text about their preferences and what not so you can take it or leave it whether you want to mess with them or not. With Azzy it's only really hashed in about halfway through her current content and seems to be moving in the direction with Liaden being a persistent element to her character instead of a one-off thing.
Now to some ideas here (because I don't want to just seem like I'm ranting even though I totally am about fictional relationships and characters)
1. I feel like the biggest thing in the game, if you decline to help Azzy flirt, then that should just be the end of it, and possibly, not move any more of the content with Liaden forward. I mentioned it above, but you just keep getting the option over and over again and it should be pretty clear that if the champion is not going to help her flirt that (s)he's uncomfortable with doing so and doesn't want to progress that route.
2. There's some sort of clarity to the relationship itself, an intervention? I don't know if that's really the right thing to have to do here, NTRd probably is an extreme approximation because there's not really a clear exclusivity established in the first place with Azzy, but also, it sorta felt like a bait and switch I guess? You have a pretty solid solo relationship going forward with her for half the time and then Liaden is introduced and you're now in an open relationship all of a sudden without much thought or action.
That's pretty much the end of my thoughts though, and I'd like to make some stipulations as well, first and foremost, the game is a work in progress. I feel like this way NOW because like aforementioned, Liaden doesn't have any content at all solo with the character, and I think that's what makes this the most off-putting to me along with the non-consent/switch-up going into the relationship with the character. This is subject to change in the future but as of now, I think I'm just going to leave Azzy and the hive alone. Second, I love you writers, artists, and coders for the game. In no way am I simply trying to put you down or be belligerent about how YOU as the creators are making your content or where you want to go with it. It's well within your rights to do whatever you please with the character(s) and how they play, I just really wanted to scream into the internet void and maybe be heard. Take it all with the smallest grain of salt you can find.
TLDR; I don't enjoy where Azzy's relationship has gone and feel it could use some tweaking (no lewd intended) to make it feel better overall
