0.7.57 Changelog Slutty Upbringing

[Endwar]

Hi there!

I was just wondering about the decision on removing the Slutty Upbringin option for the changelog, and why not simply allow it to remain as part of the content.

I find it actually an interesting option, if unrealistic I guess as an optional upbringing choice. What is the reasoning though behind its removal? I mean unless its something outright heinous (snuff, scat and others like it *goes sickly green*) I cant imagine the upbringing description to warrant its removal.

I have no problems with it of course, just overall curios; if anyone knows the reasoning behind this descision I would like to know. :3 *thumbs up*

 

[Emerald]

Given the PC isn’t even at age by the time you pick upbringings, it gave an implication that you were undergoing underage prostitution until you actually fully grow up. Not a good implication in the slightest if you ask me.

Which is a hard ass no for obvious reasons (On the blacklist as Loli, and not to forget Illegal, Fenco dodged a bullet taking it right out.). Not to mention it was done by some rando in a dare. >.<

 

[Endwar]

@Emerald
Aaah I see, makes alot more sense then.

I was thinking the upbringing is more like a consort training, where you gain proper common knowledge at an earlier age before the actual slutty upbringing when Steele is at his/her 20's.

Though given how brief the description must be, I can now understand its removal. I am definitely not a fan of lolicon thats for sure when you put it that way; so I am more than happy for its removal when put into that perspective. Still a shame, but absolutely necessary for the sake of decency and moral ethics.

 

[Emerald]

@Emerald
Aaah I see, makes alot more sense then.

I was thinking the upbringing is more like a consort training, where you gain proper common knowledge at an earlier age before the actual slutty upbringing when Steele is at his/her 20's.

Except the PC isn't even 20 by the time you actually start the gameplay, soooo. yeah. But I rather not kick that dead horse again. >3>

 

[Endwar]

Awww man! Even bigger bummer. Well it was wishful thinking. :3

 

[Alabaster Chimes]

I also got a good reason for it.

Tell me how many scenes in the game reference your upbringing. Quite a lot. The amount of hassle that it would cause to account for those scenes with this new upbringing would be quite annoying. This also adds a small "annoying" addition of adding it to writers content to make up for this new addition. Thats what I thought when I saw it.

 

[Endwar]

Oh yeah thats right! That would be a murder to go through and look over.

 

[HugsAlright]

In the comments of the latest blog post it says its getting removed.

Mainly because of explicitly stated under-aged sex and/or prostitution.

And it opens the door for terrible "HEY REMEMBER ME IM THAT PERSON YOU FUCKED IN THE PAST!" characters.

 

[Xeivous]

Well given this little nugget of determination that Steele shall remain pure as the driven snow, I further wonder about just how the hell Vic managed to keep Steele a virgin up till the start of the game.

 

[Emerald]

Well given this little nugget of determination that Steele shall remain pure as the driven snow, I further wonder about just how the hell Vic managed to keep Steele a virgin up till the start of the game.

The upbringing doesn't even remove your virginity at all actually. It just gives you 500 creds more and an add to reflexes and lower intell, that's all it does.

 

[Couch]

Well given this little nugget of determination that Steele shall remain pure as the driven snow, I further wonder about just how the hell Vic managed to keep Steele a virgin up till the start of the game.

Steele remained a virgin up until the start of the game because underage sex is not a thing that we are going to acknowledge exists in this porn game. The "how" is irrelevant.

This is another case where Captain Steele probably could have done with not being quite so young, but it's far too late now for anything to be done about that. Also, we'd then have problems in that older characters tend to have lives that they wouldn't be quite so hasty to uproot in order to go on a crazy space adventure, so it's not like bumping Steele's age up and leaving everything else the same wouldn't cause more problems.

 

[Zat]

This is another case where Captain Steele probably could have done with not being quite so young, but it's far too late now for anything to be done about that. Also, we'd then have problems in that older characters tend to have lives that they wouldn't be quite so hasty to uproot in order to go on a crazy space adventure, so it's not like bumping Steele's age up and leaving everything else the same wouldn't cause more problems.

I guess we'll just have to get used to the fact Steele has a unnatural talent to pleasuring others despite themselves being a virgin. Perhaps those biology lessons at school when growing up paid off.

 

[NotYouNorI]

Except the PC isn't even 20 by the time you actually start the gameplay, soooo. yeah. But I rather not kick that dead horse again. >3>

Except, to me (in my headcanon), Steele will always be 22 or 24 at the beginning of the game.

 

[null_blank]

I guess we'll just have to get used to the fact Steele has a unnatural talent to pleasuring others despite themselves being a virgin. Perhaps those biology lessons at school when growing up paid off.

Ancestral memory, yo. The official offspring of Fuck Rogers is bound to be a natural.

 

[GTK/HLK]

i guess im still too new..,
i keep having logic errors..,
Cause C.Steele is said to have quit their job on the spot once notice of Vic's death.
(im probably over thinking) Smugler/Merc/Tech jobs seems like jobs that would take time..,(unless the education in the UGC is so advanced you don't need many years)
(and unimportant, but im guessing with the advancement of technology, the age limit for alcohol consumption is null, or lowered.)
unless the actual age of the PC is the equivalent to how long lifes spans are then. (in other words the equivalent of considered an adult in TiTS, is much older than what most of ours would)

 

[Emerald]

i guess im still too new..,
i keep having logic errors..,
Cause C.Steele is said to have quit their job on the spot once notice of Vic's death.
(im probably over thinking) Smugler/Merc/Tech jobs seems like jobs that would take time..,(unless the education in the UGC is so advanced you don't need many years)

unless the actual age of the PC is the equivalent to how long lifes spans are then. (in other words the equivalent of considered an adult in TiTS, is much older than what most of ours would)

You're really gonna make me kick this dead horse again? >.>
You normally get out of school at 18, and I don't think this has changed for TiTS.
Vic had 20 years before he ded, minus the 9 months it takes for the PC to be born because TiTS uses more realistic preg times.
The PC is a few months past 19 by the time the actual gameplay starts, because they're 'all grown up' by the time they finish school, and that's an extra year and a few months on their job before Vic dies and you go on the rush. It's basic math. So yeah, you aren't even 20 by the time you actually play the game. People can have headcanons though.
I really don't think it should matter anyways, as long as they legal.

 

[Zat]

i guess im still too new..,
i keep having logic errors..,
Cause C.Steele is said to have quit their job on the spot once notice of Vic's death.
(im probably over thinking) Smugler/Merc/Tech jobs seems like jobs that would take time..,(unless the education in the UGC is so advanced you don't need many years)
(and unimportant, but im guessing with the advancement of technology, the age limit for alcohol consumption is null, or lowered.)
unless the actual age of the PC is the equivalent to how long lifes spans are then. (in other words the equivalent of considered an adult in TiTS, is much older than what most of ours would)

The game is full of logic errors, which most of community have deemed them as "porn logic". That one in particular is the least of your worries and, as Emerald said, don't really matter all that much.

 

[Nonesuch]

Steele remained a virgin up until the start of the game because underage sex is not a thing that we are going to acknowledge exists in this porn game. The "how" is irrelevant.

This is another case where Captain Steele probably could have done with not being quite so young, but it's far too late now for anything to be done about that. Also, we'd then have problems in that older characters tend to have lives that they wouldn't be quite so hasty to uproot in order to go on a crazy space adventure, so it's not like bumping Steele's age up and leaving everything else the same wouldn't cause more problems.

Given how little reference there is to Steele's upbringing, I really don't think it is too late to bump their age up a little. As has been gone over before, it would make a hell of a lot more sense if they were in their early-mid 20s, rather than "daddy made me become a mercenary the moment I turned 18".

 

[Arhon]

Well Fenoxo did say no underage content i believe.(I am not sure where..)

While Slutty Upbringing could make for some really interesting events it could also cause alot of problems. Plus half if not almost all scenes in the game have some sort of mention of your upbringing, which means Fen and co would have to check all events and adjust them which could be a large or small task depending on what they have to change.

That said it would be nice if Steele's age could be made sure of, is she/he 18 years old? is she/he younger? is she/he older? That would also help content creators with making scenes because then they would know how old Steele actually is.

Still i could think of alot of interesting events/scenarios/stories for the Slutty Upbringing start.. it does present unique opportunities to try something.

 

[toritoritori]

Wow. Hearing that it'd been removed is the first I'd ever heard of that upbringing. All the reasons to get rid of it definitely make sense, although it also reminds me of how much I really do wish there was a way to not be a virgin at the start of the game.

 

[ShySquare]

Wow. Hearing that it'd been removed is the first I'd ever heard of that upbringing. All the reasons to get rid of it definitely make sense, although it also reminds me of how much I really do wish there was a way to not be a virgin at the start of the game.

The simplest thing to do would probably be to add a new screen in the tutorial asking the PC which virginities they have lost on their way to adulthood, if any :/

 

[Milkman]

The whole intro sequence in general where it's Vic selecting all those traits for the PC always rubbed me the wrong way.

 

[toritoritori]

The simplest thing to do would probably be to add a new screen in the tutorial asking the PC which virginities they have lost on their way to adulthood, if any :/

Yeah, I wouldn't mind that at all. That would be nice.

The whole intro sequence in general where it's Vic selecting all those traits for the PC always rubbed me the wrong way.

Eh, yeah. I guess I can see how it might be considered a little skeevy. I didn't really bat an eye at it, since that kind of genetic-engineering stuff is totally what you'd expect out of a sexy sci-fi.

But for what it's worth, current gene-mods make it entirely possible for you to pretty much shit all over it, an turn out looking nothing like what your dear old dad imagined. That could be an interesting idea for a character, tbh. Start out as this exotic hybrid, transform yourself into something much more mundane because "Why the fuck would you do that to me, dad?"

 

[balitz Method]

Given how little reference there is to Steele's upbringing, I really don't think it is too late to bump their age up a little. As has been gone over before, it would make a hell of a lot more sense if they were in their early-mid 20s, rather than "daddy made me become a mercenary the moment I turned 18".

I guess that'd depend on whether you think daycare-style schooling is going to survive hundreds of years into the future. Actually, isn't it implied that Steele Jr. was tutored? That being the case there was probably some amount of personalized schooling focus on the prerequisites for their job class (so less oddball that they were hired as a fresh-faced 18 year old though still odd that apparently they spent 100% of all their paychecks and so have no savings whatsoever).

Though really there's no escaping that the setup itself is just really weird in general so any attempts to make it less weird are only going to be so effective.

 

[null_blank]

Does anyone remember the hullabaloo when some RP group was doing underage roleplay for Sims Online? IIRC the FBI got involved and EA/Maxis nearly shit their pants.

Any implication of such things are JUST.NOT.WORTH.IT.

 

[Ethereal Dragon]

*cough* the direction of this thread is straying into dangerous territory with the words underage, child and smut mixed in there. I'm all for each their own but these aren't the forums or the site to be talking about that