[0.69.420 -PUBLIC#1131] Penny's recruitment quest, Venus Ziltraps

[one_two]

Not sure if a bug, but... fighting the pair of Venus Ziltraps in the cave, during Penny's recruitment quest,



given their massive HP pools and the sense results, it'd seem the intention for the player is to defeat them by Teasing (the -50% resistance)

However, every single teasing move against these two is resisted, rendering the fight practically unwinnable -- using regular weapons it'd take 15-20 rounds to bring just one of them with damage dealt at that stage of the game, while it takes them only 3-4 rounds to take out Penny with the lust attacks, after which it becomes a 1 vs 2-3 fight, one that's way too prolonged for even Atma Armor available at this point to shield you through.

edit: after couple more tries did manage to get through the fight (letting Penny get eaten while focusing damage on the other Ziltrap) For some reason this time the Atma Armor resisted the lust attack while on previous attempts it let a few too many of them through. I guess it's then down to RNG, or the encounter just tries to trick the player into going about it the wrong way really hard? :v

edit2: seems there's a small mistake with one of post-fight button descriptions, though:



and clicking that particular option causes a crash

A critical error has occurred. Please create a bug report on the forums here.
Please include what you did before the error and a screen-shot or copy-paste of the error message below:
Version: 0.69.420 -PUBLIC#1131
Message: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'length')
Stack:
TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'length')
at Object.vh [as func] (https://www.fenoxo.com/play/TiTS/release/content_mhenga.9ca04ea4.js:1:1861655)
at Object.doClick (https://www.fenoxo.com/play/TiTS/release/main.b33966df.js:1:11068741)
at https://www.fenoxo.com/play/TiTS/release/main.b33966df.js:1:10730420
at s (https://www.fenoxo.com/play/TiTS/release/main.b33966df.js:1:7488649)

 

[Fenoxo]

Were you underleveled? The effectiveness of Tease greatly scales down if you are beneath your foe's level.

 

[Fenoxo]

I've fixed the Tribbing scene button for next patch.

 

[one_two]

My character was l.4, Penny was l.5. I do have enough XP to hit l.5 after the initial fight in the cave, but there's no option to actually leave it and try again later, so there's that. I can revert to earlier save, grind some xp and see how it goes. In any case, a single level of difference completely shutting down Tease seems somewhat harsh, especially with that resistance hole being their apparently intended weak point.

Given that Sensing them provides no indication of likes/dislikes for any particular features, thought maybe there's an issue of these somehow remaining undefined and so the attacks failing no matter what. I'll see how it works with character at lvl.5

 

[one_two]

OK, checking with lvl.5 character, calculating average from a few fights, effectiveness of Tease attacks against these enemies is ~33% (66% gets resisted) which makes being able to knock out just one of them this way before you're defeated extremely RNG-heavy (fortunately, you don't need to defeat two)

A funny (not really) thing, even the first enemies in that mission, who are lvl.3 vs player's lvl.5, can be highly resistant to tease attacks, shrugging off anything between 30-50% of them. Which, for beings who literally can't keep their junk in their pants, is pretty "eh?" :v

 

[Theron]

What's your Libido and do you have Ice Cold? Libido factors into Tease Accuracy. Ice Cold inverts it, making low Libido more effective
If you're using Atma Armor, you're not as Sexy as you could be, decreasing effectiveness.
Have you been boosting Willpower? 5 points of Willpower reduces Lust Damage by 1, calculated after Atma Armor percent Resistance (IIRC).

 

[one_two]

Character stats at that point were as follows:

Spoiler: for length

Active Stats

• Shields: 100 %, 0/18/18
• HP: 100 %, 0/80/80
• Lust: 14 %, 0/14.0/100
• Energy: 95 %, 0/95/100

Passive Stats

• Physique: 48 %, 0/12/25
• Reflexes: 82 %, 0/20.5/25
• Aim: 60 %, 0/15/25
• Intelligence: 76 %, 0/19.099999999999998/25
• Willpower: 51 %, 0/14/27.5
• Libido: 7 %, 0/7.6000000000000005/103.3
• Taint: 0 %, 0/0/100

Combat Statistics

Physical Combat

• Accuracy Bonus, Melee: 1.0 %
• Accuracy Bonus, Ranged: 6.0 %
• Critical Chance, Melee: 5.0 %
• Critical Chance, Ranged: 5.0 %
• Defense, Armor: 6.0
• Defense, Shields: 0.0
• Defense, Lust: 2.8
• Evasion Bonus: 11.0 %
• Fortification: 5.0
• Melee Damage, Kinetic: 6.0
• Melee Damage, Electric: 13.0
• Ranged Damage, Kinetic: 20.5
• Resistance, Kinetic: 0.0 % HP, 40.0 % Shields
• Resistance, Electric: 0.0 % HP, -50.0 % Shields
• Resistance, Burning: 0.0 % HP, 20.0 % Shields
• Resistance, Corrosive: 0.0 % HP, 20.0 % Shield

Sexual Combat

• Resistance, Drug: 15.0 %
• Resistance, Pheromone: 14.0 %
• Resistance, Tease: 14.0 %
• Sexiness: 6.6000000000000005
• Sexiness, Attire, Total: 6.0
• Sexiness, Attire, Outfit: 0.0
• Sexiness, Attire, Upper Undergarment: 3.0
• Sexiness, Attire, Lower Undergarment: 3.0, Transparent

I imagine there'll be plenty characters without that particular perk, whether because they plan to raise their libido down the road rendering it obsolete, or because they simply wanted something else. The Atma armor also seemed like kind of a must, otherwise the lust damage is heavy enough to overwhelm in just a few rounds -- between 20-40 points per shot per character per round, Potentially shaving 1 or 2 points off the hits with extra willpower makes no practical difference.

 

[Theron]

I suspect a lot of your problem is low Libido. Try again with 60-70.
Too bad you're on the Public, or you could by a Slut Ray from Dr. Badger.

 

[one_two]

It's a level 4-5 character, with access to only one location and the space station. And ~30k money. I don't think you can reasonably expect such starting players to sink bulk of their cash in consumables to pump a stat to high-end levels in order for it to become actually effective against an enemy of their own level.

(as mentioned earlier, it's possible and, because of how things presently work, more viable to get through that fight simply shooting one of the Ziltraps until it stops moving. It's just, it's pretty much the opposite of what the game makes you think you should be doing, in that encounter. Not a bug, but something i think quite a few fresh players will stumble upon)

 

[LionsSinOfPride]

I'd have to say this fight is very irritating, because I'm level 7 and I only get teases off like 1/6 of the turns(with thier -50% tease defense) I get before I get lusted into defeat. I shoot them and I get lust bombed from dealing damage to them. Either way I loose. resist both kinetic and electrical damage so I deal significantly reduced damage nor am I able to tease them much if at all. And as I already said, even if I do attack them they just light me and Penny up with 40-60 lust to the point it takes Penny out and then I have to fight both of them. I'm just sidelining this quest until I get better weaponry or max out my level I guess. Two levels above and I still loose both the lust and actual battle against them. ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[Wafflesnake]

this is a bug report thread from over two years ago.

don't necro threads, especially with stuff that doesn't even belong