New Texas Lore Question

[Jarylan]

Doing a bit of research, and I recall at one point learning that all permanent residents of New Texas had to be Treated, you couldn't be a citizen without that.

However, I can't seem to track down where this was said in game to make sure I have it correct. Anyone know where this might have been mentioned?

Maybe it was Reaha. I don't usually recruit her.

 

[Lostname475]

I think ogram says it?

Cameron one of the farmers definitely does:

"Anyway, less’n you want to go get Treated and become a citizen,

 

[LeDoraggo]

Think it was Ogram, though i don't remember if it's when you first meet him and Amma, or it happens during a repeatable talk (been ages since i've talked to the guy)

Also, side note, why would you leave behind the poor cow?

 

[Jarylan]

Think it was Ogram, though i don't remember if it's when you first meet him and Amma, or it happens during a repeatable talk (been ages since i've talked to the guy)

Also, side note, why would you leave behind the poor cow?

Not so much leave her behind as not meet her to begin with. Shrugs Way I see it, in my playthroughs Reaha never needs to be saved from Beth Carver to start with. Same reason I don't do the Love Starz quest: they tend to add things to my universe/story I would prefer were left out.

Can confirm Oggram and Cameron both seem to mention the two things (being Treated and becoming a citizen) in ways that make them seem related. But nothing concrete on it being a requirement yet. It's just heavily implied.

 

[Lostname475]

Same reason I don't do the Love Starz quest: they tend to add things to my universe/story I would prefer were left out.

I've never actually got very far into love starz, what do they add?

But nothing concrete on it being a requirement yet. It's just heavily implied.

Found it! Amma says

The Treatment’s what makes New Texas such a great, fun place. It’s a special gene-therapy developed right here on NT; everyone gets it when they reach maturity

(emphasis mine, but that doesn't sound optional to me)

 

[Jarylan]

I've never actually got very far into love starz, what do they add?

Well, spoilers obviously.

Spoiler

Blue and Green are fine. Pink has severe trauma from Victor Steele, and it really muddies the waters on what kind of person Victor was.

I... don't care for that, so I sort of just remove it from my canon.

Found it! Amma says

(emphasis mine, but that doesn't sound optional to me)

That covers folks born on New Texas, but wouldn't cover immigrants. I agree it's basically 99% certain it's required, I'm just trying to figure out where the game says it unambiguously.

 

[Lostname475]

I think if its anywhere else it might be in some of the NT bad ends?

Fwiw I definitely also remember seeing it somewhere, but I'm starting to doubt myself now. (Though tbh even if its not directly stated its pretty obviously a requirement)

 

[nameiuse]

I think if its anywhere else it might be in some of the NT bad ends?

Fwiw I definitely also remember seeing it somewhere, but I'm starting to doubt myself now. (Though tbh even if its not directly stated its pretty obviously a requirement)

The bad end where you public fuck Ellie as a treated male.

Edit: public use and many other requirements one being you have a vagina so not male I miss remembered on that part my bad.

 

[LeDoraggo]

public use and many other requirements one being you have a vagina so not male I miss remembered on that part my bad.

If used publicly 4 times or more, for every 4th time, and if Steele is feminine, treated and has had sex with Big T before, Ellie will ask if Steele will agree to stay on New Texas. After accepting, upon trying Public Use again, if Steele has a vagina, agreeing to finally stay as a public cum dump may lead to a bad end.

(from Ellie's page on the wiki)

 

[PanzerGuitar00]

I think there used to be lore that there was some kind of secret police that literally hunt down and force the treatment onto anyone who don't want to take it for whatever reason, but that was deemed too fucked up and was dropped.

My interpretation is that taking the treatment is more of a cultural mandate than an outright legal one, what with how much of a role it has played in the planets history. But that role has long since passed, and the treatment is arguably holding the people of New Texas back at this point, with how random and often... intense, its effects can be giving the people a reputation as being easy and/or airheaded, like what we hear from Kimber. So now Big T is trying to put in motion things that will phase put the treatment, or at least stabilize it so that the New Texans can loose the bad reputation they've gotten.

Unfortunately, things aren't there yet, and many New Texans still expect that to be a New Texan, you need to be Treated, which is why it's part of the immigration process.

I really would like to see someone write a character who is similar to Rhea, but at like, a younger stage in their life. Maybe not outright rejecting the treatment, but just... scared of it. Worried that it may change them into a different person, and as a result decided to run away.

.....................................

oh my god.

 

[Savin]

I think there used to be lore that there was some kind of secret police that literally hunt down and force the treatment onto anyone who don't want to take it for whatever reason, but that was deemed too fucked up and was dropped.

My interpretation is that taking the treatment is more of a cultural mandate than an outright legal one

So, the Treatment is mandatory for all citizens of age.

This is the starting point of NT's lore.

Originally, the interpretation stood that it was a thing that happened whether you wanted it or not (Fen didn't really consider "what if you don't want it?"), which is sort of where Reaha as a character came from. I am inherently a contrarian and immediately think about these things. However, Fen eventually realized (after I memed about it for like 3 years) that this sort of perforce requires some sort of Moostapo to actually enforce, and while THAT WAS NEVER, EVER mentioned in-game, he made the decision to instead canonize that if you don't want the Treatment, you just get exiled. No citizenship for you.

Bit less grimderp.

 

[Jarylan]

So, the Treatment is mandatory for all citizens of age.

This is the starting point of NT's lore.

Originally, the interpretation stood that it was a thing that happened whether you wanted it or not (Fen didn't really consider "what if you don't want it?"), which is sort of where Reaha as a character came from. I am inherently a contrarian and immediately think about these things. However, Fen eventually realized (after I memed about it for like 3 years) that this sort of perforce requires some sort of Moostapo to actually enforce, and while THAT WAS NEVER, EVER mentioned in-game, he made the decision to instead canonize that if you don't want the Treatment, you just get exiled. No citizenship for you.

Bit less grimderp.

Righto, but it helps since the character I am writing has differing opinions on New Texas vs The Treatment.

Love NT, Treatment isn't for her, so she can only visit.