Bug or just that unlucky?

[razor777]

Got 3 points in ausar score, apparently enough for game to consider me ausar race. Huskar treats refuse to give fluffy skin flag and furred regal mane, and is prioritizing ausar arms for some reason.

Is this bug or am I truly just getting that unlucky?

 

[razor777]

OK I don't know what I did, but the game classifies me as "half-ausar" instead on a duplicate save, same amount of ausar racial points.

 

[TheShepard256]

I'm pretty sure:

• This makeup should classify you as a half-ausar, but one more point will make you classified as a full ausar
• You need to be considered a full ausar to get the huskar TFs from Huskar Treats
• Ausar/Huskar Treats will always give you the arm TF before the leg TF

 

[razor777]

This makeup should classify you as a half-ausar, but one more point will make you classified as a full ausar

It already classifies me as full ausar on the original save, I don't know why there's inconsistency between the saves.

Really, I think the problem here is that if you're already an ausar(or heck even just half IMHO) then huskar treats should automatically prioritize giving you Huskar TFs over anything else, to which I don't feel like they already do.

 

[razor777]

They also still need to fix the problem of TFs in general being able to give you the dud message even when you haven't yet gotten all the possible transformations from one that you are able to.

 

[Wafflesnake]

you have a history of saying things that imply you don't understand something even when you do, but ill say it anyway

the duds are not necessarily when you exhaust all available transformations. as it says in most of said messages, sometimes just you hit a dud.

whether or not thats something that should be included in the game is an entirely separate question that i am not addressing.

 

[razor777]

you have a history of saying things that imply you don't understand something even when you do, but ill say it anyway

the duds are not necessarily when you exhaust all available transformations. as it says in most of said messages, sometimes just you hit a dud.

whether or not thats something that should be included in the game is an entirely separate question that i am not addressing.

I'm not saying get rid of the dud message entirely, I'm saying make it so it only pops up after all possible TF options in an item have already been obtained.
(or in other extremely specific circumstances, but not while an item still has unclaimed TFs)

You're not going to convince me that an incredibly advanced futuristic galactic society, can't have figured out the solution to defective products in its time.

 

[lopbat]

You're not going to convince me that an incredibly advanced futuristic galactic society, can't have figured out the solution to defective products in its time.

Reasonably sure it's canon that they could easily solve those issues but, just like in real life, cheaper mods are made shittier specifically so you have to buy more to get your desired effects and more expensive tfs are more efficient (there's just only a handful of them actually ingame).

 

[Wafflesnake]

there's also the fact that a game intended to be about random tf's doesn't really work if there's no random tf's

there are multiple items in game that have literal selectors for what result you want, its not about what "should" be possible in game, its about the game's intended design.

 

[razor777]

a game intended to be about random tf's

multiple items in game that have literal selectors for what result you want

If there's TFs in the game that give you choices...then it's not really about randomness now is it?

This is of course, not counting the TFs that aren't random because they're literal one-shots meant to turn you into a completely specific race.

 

[TheShepard256]

If there's TFs in the game that give you choices...then it's not really about randomness now is it?

It's intended to be about random TFs because that's Fenoxo's fetish... but most other writers aren't really into that (something which annoys Fen to no end), so over time, more and more TFs written by other people have been added with some degree of choice to them.

Also, the whole "getting duds when there are still available TFs" is due to how those specific TFs are coded; they go down a list, one by one, and roll for each TF before moving onto the next (or simply ending if the TF limit has been hit), and if you're unlucky enough to roll negative on all potentially valid TFs (which gets more likely the more you're TFed appropriately), you get the dud message because that's the last thing on the list and is what gets outputted if no TFs occur. Fortunately, that's not a problem for all random TFs; others use a system where all potentially valid TFs are indexed into a list, and that list is drawn from randomly without replacement until either the TF limit has been hit or there are no more TFs to draw from - duds only occur if you're genuinely ineligible for any possible TF.
As a side note, I think the former system mainly applied to earlier TFs, while the latter is mainly for newer ones.