Least Favourite TiTS Character.

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Heh I was about to say 16 is still technically a kid but then I remembered you're over in the UK aren't you.

16's the age of consent in a number of US states, too.


Seems a bit young to me. I'm more in favor of the age of consent is 18, unless you're within 2 years of each other, thing that a lot of states have.
 

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I don't understand what you mean about that part for Embry.

Embry's race is the only one in the game that has TF resistance.  Jim wrote this race specifically to have Embry's arc because it didn't make sense for her to have any problem transitioning if she was any other race.  It will almost certainly never come up again and exists in contrast to the rest of the setting purely to allow Captain Steele to swoop in and save the day.

Also 'Bubble Waifus'?

CoC has an issue where all of the characters exist in their own little bubbles.  Their lives, problems, and all of the magic whatthefuckery surrounding them are not written with anyone else in mind.  In some cases, like Dominika or Minerva, it verges on the absurd.  There is no interaction going on between any of them.  By contrast, TiTS has the Dorna siblings connected to Kaede to Kiro to the Void to Saendra, Kara and Shade, so on and so forth.  If I ever get around to it there'll be a Ceria/Anno threesome.  Sera and Jade have a rivalry going.  Stuff like that where the characters actually notice each other exist.

Oh God. Right. I had just blanked out her existence by the time I replied first. Lemme fix that.

Doc Badger is such a Looney Tunes character that I can't even put her on my worst list.  Everything about her from start to finish is just such a bad idea that I'm not even mad.
 

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To be serious, my objection to Aurora is she's an unaccompanied (no parent or other guardian figure) kid in the middle of this highly sexualized game universe. It's not the not having sex with her that bothers me at all.

You took the words right out of my mouth. And it's also the fact that she's living in an environment, that I feel, is very dangerous for her.
 

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Seems a bit young to me. I'm more in favor of the age of consent is 18, unless you're within 2 years of each other, thing that a lot of states have.

Talking about non-human being's age is totally pointless, even if we forget thet age of consent is obviously chosen by random (it is clear, since it differs from 13 to 21 in different countries). Vanae maidens, for example, are somewhere around 14 years old (see Codex).
 

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And Aurora is nothing more than big "fuck you" for all who are into things which are blacklisted here.

Some of Savin's characters are a much more obvious fuck you to people who love 'preg shit'. So why choose Aurora? I'm genuinely curious.

Crazy Carl and Colenso are children? I wasn't aware of that. I guess I object to them, too, for the same reasons I object to Aurora.


To be serious, my objection to Aurora is she's an unaccompanied (no parent or other guardian figure) kid in the middle of this highly sexualized game universe. It's not the not having sex with her that bothers me at all. It doesn't help that I find the "offbeat kid genius" archetype annoying.


It's a little insulting that you jump to the idea that it's a "gotta catch 'em all" mentality and that people object to Aurora because they want to have sex with her.

Ah, I see. My apologies. The last sentence of Milkman's post threw me off. It's worth noting that PC is constantly reassured that the walls of her no-sex bubble are quite strong and that bunny-cobolds take good care of her. For me it was enough to move on without feeling weird about the whole situation.


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While her race will most likely end up being forgotten on the wayside, nothing prevented Embry from becoming involved with the bigger galaxy. So even being the waifuest of all the characters in TiTS, she had no bubble.
 

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While her race will most likely end up being forgotten on the wayside, nothing prevented Embry from becoming involved with the bigger galaxy. So even being the waifuest of all the characters in TiTS, she had no bubble.

The point of a bubble isn't that it HAS to exist, it's the fact that it does. Embry COULD have been written to be involved with the rest of the galaxy. She wasn't.
 

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The point of a bubble isn't that it HAS to exist, it's the fact that it does. Embry COULD have been written to be involved with the rest of the galaxy. She wasn't.

I'm confused. Non-follower NPC having next to no interactions with other characters isn't something exclusive to Embry and her grandiose follower x-pack was supposed to introduce said interactions. I like Great Web of relations, but some random country bumpkin being cut off from it before taking a more prominent role in PC's story seems like a normal thing.


What am I missing here?
 

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What am I missing here?

A long-running problem in CoC/TiTS that causes longstanding contributors to feel undisposed to NPCs they feel are contributing to it.


Fwiw I'm someone who hates "bubble characters", but didn't dislike Embry for it. You can argue that part of her character is her disconnect from the rest of the galaxy, and unlike similar characters she's difficult to seriously dislike, because her writer was actually good. And yeah her race was made to create a problem that shouldn't exist, but man, there's so much cheese and cynical reasons for stuff in this universe it hardly stands out.
 

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I'm not fond of Badger at all. Or even her counterpart in Dr. Lash. I'm not too fond of how Kiro/Penny/Emmy are rather close to being the same character 3 times over, but what differences there are between the three are just enough for me to kinda like them. Also I'm not sure what the issue is with Embry. Her race being special in being resistant to TFs isn't that bad in comparison to some of the weird sexual dimorphism or reproduction mechanics that some of the other species in the setting have. Embry's parents being jerks about her wanting to TF is perfectly fine as well. Plus I recall something with the Ausar that Emmy introduced about them not being entirely tolerant about certain TFs so it's not like Embry is in a perfectly little snowflake boat. On top of that, I'm pretty sure there's a religion or something based around being against TFs.
 

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Some of Savin's characters are a much more obvious fuck you to people who love 'preg shit'. So why choose Aurora? I'm genuinely curious.

Mostly because I'm indifferent to preg content. Especially since it is barely compatible with plot.


And Aurora is barely a child from description and picture. She would be at least 13 if she would be human. Also, her story about being cared by Raksvel is sooo cheesy... First, Raksvel have no materinal instincts (source: Codex). Second, Raksvel are mature when thay are near two years. Third, Raksvel see nothing wrong with their sexuality. Fourth, there are no way she cound't know about Raksvel sexuality. So, by all means, she should be considered young adult, like said Vanae maidens, not a child. Oh, and she is appealing in a lot of ways for me (and no, not by age, though I'm ok with it, it's not a fetish as well).
 

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As an aside, Aurora is in the fourteen-ish bracket and is pretty much adopted by the crew as a whole, who are as maternal and caring as you'd expect from a bunch of breed machines. Shekka was earmarked to have a few lines about her on the subject but that kinda slipped out the wayside/there wasn't a good spot for it, so instead you get her buying a junk part for Aurora. I'm sure you can link implications.

I'm confused. Non-follower NPC having next to no interactions with other characters isn't something exclusive to Embry and her grandiose follower x-pack was supposed to introduce said interactions. I like Great Web of relations, but some random country bumpkin being cut off from it before taking a more prominent role in PC's story seems like a normal thing.


What am I missing here?

Consider CoC, it's a bit more obvious there given the nature of its world building and lack there of; Dominika is that oral-fiend wizard in Tel'andre. Now, looking up on the wiki to actually remember her name, it turns out she interacts with another character, but otherwise she has this backstory, these goals, brings more setting into light for the city that only comes up for Dominika. If she were removed, beyond a little setting information that affects no one else there'd be no change on the game. She's in a bubble. A bubble that has "destroy the plane to escape, maybe" on it, which makes it especially egregious. 


Now, of course, CoC has a lot of orphaned characters and she was one of them, but an example all the same. Consider others; we have Urta who mentions hermaphrodites being shunned by the city (PC never is, problem invented just for herself and I don't think even comes up for Katherine, either, come to think of it) and even has her own quest and deity sitting in her balls. Still could be removed and the only thing that effects if Edyrn, in passing. She's in a bubble and probably a closer example given the "just-effecting her problem." 


Now, of course, TiTs still has a few of those problems. Some of that is avoided by way of planets being a thing as opposed to nondescript apocolyptic destinations, giving everyone culture and identity etc to link them up, they share exposition. All of Savin's chararcters are largely connected somehow, even when it's a little painful. (Looking at you, pirate boss and Kaede.) The earlier you are in the game and the more writers there are in a particular venue the more it'll happen, of course, but it's still something that we want to avoid. In the perfect world characters would interact with each other, too, of course. That's a lot of effort and potential author collaboration, tho.

Oh God. Right. I had just blanked out her existence by the time I replied first. Lemme fix that.

It's assumed, obv.
 

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As an aside, Aurora is in the fourteen-ish bracket and is pretty much adopted by the crew as a whole, who are as maternal and caring as you'd expect from a bunch of breed machines. Shekka was earmarked to have a few lines about her on the subject but that kinda slipped out the wayside/there wasn't a good spot for it, so instead you get her buying a junk part for Aurora. I'm sure you can link implications.


Consider CoC, it's a bit more obvious there given the nature of its world building and lack there of; Dominika is that oral-fiend wizard in Tel'andre. Now, looking up on the wiki to actually remember her name, it turns out she interacts with another character, but otherwise she has this backstory, these goals, brings more setting into light for the city that only comes up for Dominika. If she were removed, beyond a little setting information that affects no one else there'd be no change on the game. She's in a bubble. A bubble that has "destroy the plane to escape, maybe" on it, which makes it especially egregious. 


Now, of course, CoC has a lot of orphaned characters and she was one of them, but an example all the same. Consider others; we have Urta who mentions hermaphrodites being shunned by the city (PC never is, problem invented just for herself and I don't think even comes up for Katherine, either, come to think of it) and even has her own quest and deity sitting in her balls. Still could be removed and the only thing that effects if Edyrn, in passing. She's in a bubble and probably a closer example given the "just-effecting her problem." 


Now, of course, TiTs still has a few of those problems. Some of that is avoided by way of planets being a thing as opposed to nondescript apocolyptic destinations, giving everyone culture and identity etc to link them up, they share exposition. All of Savin's chararcters are largely connected somehow, even when it's a little painful. (Looking at you, pirate boss and Kaede.) The earlier you are in the game and the more writers there are in a particular venue the more it'll happen, of course, but it's still something that we want to avoid. In the perfect world characters would interact with each other, too, of course. That's a lot of effort and potential author collaboration, tho.


It's assumed, obv.

Well it would definitely help with that if there was more information on UGC culture, specially any political movements or charities or stuff like that.
 

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Well it would definitely help with that if there was more information on UGC culture, specially any political movements or charities or stuff like that.

Use your imagination and make 'em up. Otherwise you're just waiting for someone else to pull it out of their ass. 
 

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I don't really dislike anyone. I mean, there are sex scenes that don't get me off, so I guess you could argue I like their corresponding NPCs less.
 

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I kinda feel like noobsaleh does. What I can remember of CoC is that I really couldn't stand Kelt, but noone in TiTS is quite on that level. I could say Badger, but the thing is, there is so little content to be had from her, unless you wanna get turned into a badger, she's not really a blip on your radar. Similarly with Lash.


Going by the sex scenes though, it would probably be Burt. Metal cock is strike one and only caring about his own enjoyment is two.. so not quite enough to completely avoid him. Still have a lot of exploring to do on Myrellion though, so who knows. The ant thing doesn't tickle my fancy in the least (abdomens get really awkward fast), but then again bees don't either and I enjoyed all the Zil stuff. Also wish Xanthe's scenes had a little less emphasis on pain, but it's not a big deal since there's a dom alternative and I like Sera a lot more anyway.


Oh and completely agree with Fen, Nyrea seem great, but that spike-cock... *shudder*. Hope it doesn't get mentioned much in the scenes, because otherwise they seem tasty as fuck.
 

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Mostly because I'm indifferent to preg content. Especially since it is barely compatible with plot.


And Aurora is barely a child from description and picture. She would be at least 13 if she would be human. Also, her story about being cared by Raksvel is sooo cheesy... First, Raksvel have no materinal instincts (source: Codex). Second, Raksvel are mature when thay are near two years. Third, Raksvel see nothing wrong with their sexuality. Fourth, there are no way she cound't know about Raksvel sexuality. So, by all means, she should be considered young adult, like said Vanae maidens, not a child. Oh, and she is appealing in a lot of ways for me (and no, not by age, though I'm ok with it, it's not a fetish as well).

1,2&3) Damn it, @Nonesuch! Muh Raskvel bias makes me get triggered. Still, at least for some of Raskvel being empathetic towards random alien orphan and grasping the concept of slower maturity rate doesn't seem too farfetched.


4) I've seen enough teenagers remaining totally oblivious in regards to sexuality despite being surrounded by it, so I have no problem suspending my disbelief about this aspect of Aurora's character.


Thanks for the history lesson, guys, and for clarifying what counts as a 'bubble character' according to the general consensus.
 

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1,2&3) Damn it, @Nonesuch! Muh Raskvel bias makes me get triggered. Still, at least for some of Raskvel being empathetic towards random alien orphan and grasping the concept of slower maturity rate doesn't seem too farfetched.


4) I've seen enough teenagers remaining totally oblivious in regards to sexuality despite being surrounded by it, so I have no problem suspending my disbelief about this aspect of Aurora's character.

Well, one of them is ok, but all in a same time? Also, they could get the slower maturing and not do anything, but why hide? Especially the thing which is barely possible to hide. Especially from someone smart and curious.


And teens oftenly tends to be... Well... Not honest. So I could believe she does not want to talk about it, but that she doesn't know? Nope. It especially doesn't match her personality - she looks like one who won't pass "unusual behavior" mystery.


P.S.: Reptiles with no materinal instincts who does not care about their children? Ok. So... Boobs? Why??????
 
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Badger and Lash aren't meant to be likeable, so I don't particularly hate either character. I would've liked if a boss fight could be set up for Badger, since Lash admits that any confrontations between the two always end at a Stalemate due to Badger oding on steroids and the various traps set up in her lab.


Least favorite character would have to be Embry. I don't like waifus in these types of games and I love the fact that characters in TITS seem to have a life outside of bouncing on Steele's dick. That was one of my main gripes with COC. Marble, Amily, Helia, and the creepy as fuck Arian, take your pick. Helia was actually one of my favorite characterw until the waifu shit happened. CoC has a huge problem with most characters just being different kinds of fleshlights and seemingly not having much of a life outside of our Champion.


Embry just... brings back bad memories of the bubble waifus in CoC. The fact her family is heavily traditional and her race just so happens to have a high resistance to TFs just comes off as creating a problem for Steele to solve, like many others have said. Embry does the bubble waifu thing better than CoC did, since she actually has hobbies and interests, but outside of that, there's absolutely nothing that connects her to the world of TITS because all of her problems are self contained and do little to contribute to the world building. For instance, you can plop Embry into COC with practically zero changes and she wouldn't look out of place in the sea of waifus that game has. 
 
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I didn't really like Lane and their hypnosis shtick. Not much to add since everyone else is fine with me.
 

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Hmmm... my least favorite... my least favorite... I might have to go with Embry on this one, as well, for the same reasons already stated. She's a fine character, but I don't think it was necessary to design her around a problem that does not exist for anything else in the TiTS universe.


JimT was a good writer, in my opinion, but he did seem to do things like that from time to time. Ben/Bess, for example. I wasn't fully convinced that the hyper libertine society of TiTS would care so much about people who marry their robo-waifus. It felt like an element added simply to create drama. It was effective, I admit, but it always felt a little contrived to me.


I didn't hate Dr. Badger, personally. Her content wasn't really my thing, but listening to her talk about the chances of multi-universal Pennies having dicks kept me amused, and it certainly reminded me that I was playing a porn game in space, so I can't really hate her. She was a character that actually took advantage of TiTS' premise, and honestly I wish more characters would do so, as well.
 

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I guess this message will just compile what has been said so far:
*Embry: a character created to be a problem that doesn't exist in the TiTSverse and has to be solved by Steele sounds too... suspicious. Not that I can't buy that there's a race that has a resistance to TFs and traditional families around the universe do exist. Also, 2sugary4me.
*Emmy: attempts to be a waifu too hard. The convoluted flower thingy doesn't help either. Shares the "hyper futa waifu" stereotype with...
*Kiro: I don't like her character too much.
*Badger/Dr. Lash: because extreme positions are not good. I want to assume they were meant to be that way.
*Del: not because of the character himself, but the forced sissification stuff.


Politics wise, I don't like Irellia and Juro, but I like their role in the Myrellion conflict. I'm not into mind control, so I'll have to namecheck Dr. Khan and Lane. Back in the day, I was not into Dane, but I grew out of it after that showdown at Taivra's palace.
 
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Embry's race is the only one in the game that has TF resistance.  Jim wrote this race specifically to have Embry's arc because it didn't make sense for her to have any problem transitioning if she was any other race.

Even with that it doesnt make any sense. At this stage there have to be any number of PHYSICAL surgeries to take care of this very problem.
 

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Doc Badger. I only interact with her for the credit bonus I get for turning the bimbo ray against her. I don't find her counterpart, Dr. Lash, too annoying...but I do have an inordinate fondness for high-minded mad scientists.
 
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I don't particularly hate anyone, or at least none that I can recall off the top of my head. But I do remember being depresed at how low the number of truly dominant women there are in TiTS. And when I say that, I mean dominant women who are NOT dick-girls. I can tolerate dick-girls but I'm not particularly attracted to them.
I usually get me 'fixes' by spamming the scenes with Sera that don't feature her cock, losing/submitting to the Zil Female and Elder Venus Pitcher, The various (forced and non-forced) cunnilingus scenes, and of course; Lane.

Oh yeah, Doctor Badger. I don't like her at all, I might have been singing a different tune if she wasn't a dickgirl but that's a big 'if', her entire personality and the way she wanted to screw over Penny put her on my shit-list.
 

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Some mixture of Emmy/Embry just going by looks simply not my intersection of interests. Doctor Badger ditto but I also dislike her personality.

But since they are easy to ignore *shrugs*, in terms of "unavoidable" I'd say the
- Cunttail (Nyrea) .. any description/bust that reminds me of parasitic blood leeches .. nooooope.
 
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Penny and Kelly. They aren't there to do anything except provide biomass if you're a goo person.
 
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Emmy & Embry are too waifuish and Emmy seems redundant as well. Dr. Badger is pretty bad as well. She feels underdeveloped.
 
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