Sexy "Weapons"?

StephieKLove

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It feels kinda odd running around in the jungle bending over in front of everything while carrying around a knife/sword and a gun :p
And carrying nothing means the game defaults to use picking up a rock to hit things with...
I know there's a whip available (for characters of that persuasion ;)  ), but I think it's be nice to have other options available for those who'd rather make love than war when out in the field.

Only real  idea I've thought of so far would be a Feather Duster to go with my Maid Outfit (since the same person who sells the Maid Outfit sells the Whip, the Feather Duster "weapon" could be, too).
And I honestly have no idea what to do about a ranged weapon...

Anyone else have any other thoughts or ideas about this?
 

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There's a saber and a revolver sold in Myrellion with +sexy. There will probably be more as more weapons are added to the game.

That said, weapons are going to be weapons. There's a reason Silly Mode isn't the default.
 

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Dr. Badger also sells the Slut Ray, which pretty much covers it for a ranged sexy weapon.
 

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Here, have my thoughts on the matter. They come in the form of a set of equipment.

Proper Lady Set

Remarkable Fascinator (Accessory)
How fascinating! What sort of feathers are those? Where did the jewels come from? Such artistry! Such haberdashery! It is, all in all, a rather distracting hat. 

+ Sexiness
+ Evasion

- Accuracy

Twice-Cinched Corset (Top Undergarment)
This high-quality corset slims your figure most elegantly, emphasizing your hips and bust: not only that, but the steel stays are strong enough to deflect the occasional blow. It does leave something to be desired in the realm of /breathing/, however.

+ Sexiness
+ Fortification
+ Kinetic Resistance

- Evasion
- Accuracy
- Pheromone Resistance

Noblewoman's Ballgown (Armor)

Such a tremendous confection! You can't even count the petticoats. A gown such as this makes tailors envious, and romantic rivals faint dead away. It does require you to maintain a courtly pace while wearing it, though: the ensnaring skirts thoroughly preclude hasty movements.

+ Sexiness
+ Fortification

- Accuracy
- Evasion

Luxurious Panties
A lady's underthings are entrusted to safeguard her most sensitive places: therefore, anything less than the finest silk is simply inadequate. These decadently-smooth panties will guard your virtue faithfully.

+ Sexiness

Femme Fatale's Fan
A courtly fan, used to cool oneself on summer days, coquettishly hide one's face from suitors, and discreetly poison your rivals. Each needle-sharp spoke contains a small inner reservoir, built to hold any number of drugs. 

... This specific fan has been filled with a potent aphrodisiac. 

Melee Weapon
Negligible Kinetic damage.
If the Kinetic damage connects, deals strong Drug damage to target's Lust.
+ Sexiness
+ Evasion

... This specific fan has been filled with a lethal toxin.

Melee Weapon 
Negligible Kinetic damage.
If the Kinetic damage connects, deals strong Poison damage to target's HP. 
+ Sexiness
+ Evasion

Discreet Derringer
Noblewomen require the ability to protect themselves: that requirement gave birth to guns such as this one. Small enough to fit in a sleeve, powerful enough to stop an assailant dead, and elegant enough to befit a proper lady. The concealable barrel doesn't do much for its accuracy, though.

... This derringer has been loaded with conventional slugs.

Ranged Weapon
Moderate Kinetic Damage
+ Sexiness
- Accuracy

... This derringer has been loaded with small capsules of aphrodisiac.

Moderate Drug Damage
+ Sexiness
- Accuracy
 
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Here, have my thoughts on the matter. They come in the form of a set of equipment.

Proper Lady Set

Twice-Cinched Corset (Top Undergarment)
This high-quality corset slims your figure most elegantly, emphasizing your hips and bust: not only that, but the steel stays are strong enough to deflect the occasional blow. It does leave something to be desired in the realm of /breathing/, however.

+ Sexiness
+ Willpower
+ Kinetic Resistance

- Physique
- Reflexes
- Pheromone Resistance


Femme Fatale's Fan
A courtly fan, used to cool oneself on summer days, coquettishly hide one's face from suitors, and discreetly poison your rivals. Each needle-sharp spoke contains a small inner reservoir, built to hold any number of drugs. 

... This specific fan has been filled with a potent aphrodisiac. 

Melee Weapon
Negligible Kinetic damage.
If the Kinetic damage connects, deals strong Drug damage to target's Lust.
+ Sexiness
+ Evasion

... This specific fan has been filled with a lethal toxin.

Melee Weapon 
Negligible Kinetic damage.
If the Kinetic damage connects, deals strong Poison damage to target's HP. 
+ Sexiness
+ Evasion

Discreet Derringer
Noblewomen require the ability to protect themselves: that requirement gave birth to guns such as this one. Small enough to fit in a sleeve, powerful enough to stop an assailant dead, and elegant enough to befit a proper lady. The concealable barrel doesn't do much for its accuracy, though.

... This derringer has been loaded with conventional slugs.

Ranged Weapon
Moderate Kinetic Damage
+ Sexiness
- Aim

... This derringer has been loaded with small capsules of aphrodisiac.

Moderate Drug Damage
+ Sexiness
- Aim

As always, you never fail to deliver. Thank you, Eva. However, it's part of my very nature to nitpick, so I can't help myself.

  • AFAIK items do not and should not give stat buffs or penalties. So I'd suggest to change the Corset so it'd provide 
+Sexiness

+Fortification

+Kinetic Resistance

-Accuracy

-Evasion

-Pheromone Resistance 

  • IMO both versions of the FFF  should do negligible damage altogether and have a chance to apply a status effect, which would have some debilitating properties and either Poison damage or Lust over time.

  • I can't see any justifiable reason for allowing a hidden gun to provide passive boost to Sexiness. So I'd suggest give it a hefty crit bonus instead and maybe ditch the non-Lust damage version alltogether, since Anno's Hold-out Hammer pistol does the similar thing.
 
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As always, you never fail to deliver. Thank you, Eva. However, it's part of my very nature to nitpick, so I can't help myself.

  • AFAIK items do not and should not give stat buffs or penalties. So I'd suggest to change the Corset so it'd provide 
+Sexiness

+Fortification

+Kinetic Resistance

-Accuracy

-Evasion

-Pheromone Resistance 

  • IMO both versions of the FFF  should do negligible damage and have a chance to apply a Poison status effect, which would have some debilitating properties and either be a HP damage or Lust over time.

  • I can't see any justifiable reason for allowing a hidden gun to provide passive boost to Sexiness. So I'd suggest give it a hefty crit bonus instead and maybe ditch the non-Lust damage version alltogether, since Anno's Hold-out Hammer pistol does the similar thing.

Fixed, along with the gown. 

As for the derringer: most people wear armour over their undergarments, and yet undergarments have +sexiness passives. Why not a concealed pistol with ornate filigree?

Oh, and in more direct response:

Lust-Duster

This aphrodisiac-powdered feather-duster kicks up huge clouds of pheromones whenever you brush it against anything. Stick it under someone's nose, and they'll be begging for release in no time. If only it were a little less indiscriminate...

Melee Weapon
Significant Pheromone and Drug Damage
+ Damage against Crowds
Inflicts Drug and Pheromone damage to you with every attack!
 

Fully Automated

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As for the derringer: most people wear armour over their undergarments, and yet undergarments have +sexiness passives.

Your underwear you might flaunt during your strip tease*. Gun, probably not. Then again, it won't be concealed when you're fighting, and there's already precedent for +sexy guns.

*See for example:

A cunning smile slaps itself across your face as you hook your fingers into your reinforced bodysuit and pull down your bottoms to expose your thong and fair rear end. Spreading your legs, you begin to shake your fair bottom, bouncing in your thong and tempting the gold deserter with your unseen goods. 

 
 

Nik_van_Rijn

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Fixed, along with the gown. 

As for the derringer: most people wear armour over their undergarments, and yet undergarments have +sexiness passives. Why not a concealed pistol with ornate filigree?

Anything but visible garments providing +sexiness is indeed a very game-y thing, but with underwear we can suspend our disbelief and say that somehow during PCs teasing they always show through. However it's hard for me to imagine a gun that'd look sexier than other gun to anyone but a gun-nut. Things like the one under the cut for the most part work regardless of what gun is used

Revy+is+life+revy+is+love+waifu+_3958fa27d22e192bb20b1b867abc0035.jpg
 

Revy is love, Revy is life.
 
 
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Eva

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Your underwear you might flaunt during your strip tease*. Gun, probably not. Then again, it won't be concealed when you're fighting, and there's already precedent for +sexy guns.

*See for example:

Hidden Content

Point!

That said, I think there's a lot of unexplored design space for sexy weapons. 

Here's another thing I came up with off the top of my head:

Combat Stilettos
Everybody knows that being kicked with an eight-inch heel hurts. Not everybody wears a pair of eight-inch heels with shock generators in the platforms. Between the weight of the battery and the electric surprise, these vicious stillettos can put over-amorous suitors down for the count.

Melee Weapon
+Sexiness
Moderate Physical Damage
Moderate Electrical Damage
Chance of Stun

- Evasion
 
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Eva

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Anything but visible garments providing +sexiness is indeed a very game-y thing, but with underwear we can suspend our disbelief and say that somehow during PCs teasing  they show through. However it's hard for me to imagine a gun that'd look sexier than other gun to anyone but a gun-nut. Things like the one under the cut for the most part work regardless of what gun is used.

Valid point. If set bonuses were a thing, maybe I'd have it contribute, but they're not, so... *shrug.*
 

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Really? AFAIK (version 0.6.13 and wiki), only Whips provide sexiness bonus when it comes to weapons.

Cavalry Saber and Rudimentary Revolver sold by the Merchant Queen in Kressia both have +Sexiness bonus.

Combat Stilettos

Everybody knows that being kicked with an eight-inch heel hurts. Not everybody wears a pair of eight-inch heels with shock generators in the platforms. Between the weight of the battery and the electric surprise, these vicious stillettos can put over-amorous suitors down for the count.

Melee Weapon
+Sexiness
Moderate Physical Damage
Moderate Electrical Damage
Chance of Stun

- Evasion

The problem is that a) not all PCs even have feet, and b) that several scenes mention you holding your weapon in your hand. Now, a stiletto-heel shoe would make a passable improvised weapon, but it's not a design you'd really build on if you had a choice.
 

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Cavalry Saber and Rudimentary Revolver sold by the Merchant Queen in Kressia both have +Sexiness bonus.

The problem is that a) not all PCs even have feet, and b) that several scenes mention you holding your weapon in your hand. Now, a stiletto-heel shoe would make a passable improvised weapon, but it's not a design you'd really build on if you had a choice.

Points taken regarding the shoes, alas. Oh well: there are plenty of other ideas out there.
 
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On the same idea regarding Elite Fashion: 

Lady's Shielding Necklace
Women of distinction occasionally find it necessary to duck assassination attempts: however, carrying an obvious shield generator is something of a social faux pas. Enter the Shielding Necklace, from JoyCo: resting attractively above a lady's décolletage, it appears nothing more than a fashionable pendant - until the shooting starts. Though some effectiveness was sacrificed in order to fit the circuitry into such a small package, it's nonetheless strong enough to deflect all but the most determined of assailants. 

+ Sexiness
Bonus Shields: 40
(No resistance weaknesses or strengths, making it slightly worse than the Premium JoyCo shield.)
 

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Cavalry Saber and Rudimentary Revolver sold by the Merchant Queen in Kressia both have +Sexiness bonus.

Well, I'll be... Seems weird on both accounts, but I guess it has to do with the concept of +Sexiness items being blurry right now. It seems that it encompasses sex appeal of something like a skintight revealing bodisuit, stylish choices like a Han Solo-esque leather jacket, or the bling of a decorated sword. I don't know if it's an oversight, or a difference of opinions on the part of the dev team, or it works as intended.

On the same idea regarding Elite Fashion: 

Lady's Shielding Necklace
Women of distinction occasionally find it necessary to duck assassination attempts: however, carrying an obvious shield generator is something of a social faux pas. Enter the Shielding Necklace, from JoyCo: resting attractively above a lady's décolletage, it appears nothing more than a fashionable pendant - until the shooting starts. Though some effectiveness was sacrificed in order to fit the circuitry into such a small package, it's nonetheless strong enough to deflect all but the most determined of assailants. 

+ Sexiness
Bonus Shields: 40
(No resistance weaknesses or strengths, making it slightly worse than the Premium JoyCo shield.)

Again, it's a very nice item lore-wise and would make for a great addition to a posh NPC's inventory or a quest involving some high class event that promises trouble. Right now, though, any chance of PC going coreward is very slim outside of special events, and on the frontier something like this wouldn't be very useful. It most likely costs an arm and a leg and have less raw power than Premium JoyCo model.

Than there's the issue of deciding what item deserves having an in-game sexiness bonus and what doesn't. See the first part of this post.
 

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Again, it's a very nice item lore-wise and would make for a great addition to a posh NPC's inventory or a quest involving some high class event that promises trouble. Right now, though, any chance of PC going coreward is very slim outside of special events, and on the frontier something like this wouldn't be very useful. It most likely costs an arm and a leg and have less raw power than Premium JoyCo model.

Than there's the issue of deciding what item deserves having an in-game sexiness bonus and what doesn't. See the first part of this post.

Well, I'd like to make the point that by the end of Myrmedion the PC has certainly interacted with royalty, and may well be royalty themselves. Why restrict the PC from buying high-fashion items meant for the galactic elite? They're likely rich enough to afford it, and their social status is certainly good enough for them to hobnob with the fat cats.

As for 'how useful is it on the frontier': of what use to the PC are cosmetic gene-mods? :p

(Besides, I think part of the point of an item like this is that you're compromising your defenses so that you can look prettier. It draws from the same kink as going out into the M'hengan jungle wearing a maid outfit, only more subtly.)
 

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Well, I'd like to make the point that by the end of Myrmedion the PC has certainly interacted with royalty, and may well be royalty themselves. Why restrict the PC from buying high-fashion items meant for the galactic elite? They're likely rich enough to afford it, and their social status is certainly good enough for them to hobnob with the fat cats.

I've never implied that Steele Junior aren't eligible for mingling with planetary or corporate elite, because of course they do, and right from the get go. Just that there most likely won't be many events like that in the near future. As for the amount of cash moneys PC is likely to have by the end of current content: it's actually not that much if they don't grind like crazy and/or exploit Lash-thrashing. Between Emmy's shop, TFs and JimT's wifus, there are a lot more money sinks than effective ways to earn them atm.

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As for 'how useful is it on the frontier': of what use to the PC are cosmetic gene-mods? :p
Touche. I constantly need to remind myself that more than a half of TiTS's content and most of the player base aren't munchkin-oriented.

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(Besides, I think part of the point of an item like this is that you're compromising your defenses so that you can look prettier. It draws from the same kink as going out into the M'hengan jungle wearing a maid outfit, only more subtly.)
 Well, maid outfit actually is a huge upgrade from the default equipment and arguably is better than M'hengan top armor  :D , but I get what you are talking about. It certainly is a right of every player to decide that their Steele will only wear pretty/sexy/classy things, stats be damned. Giving current difficulty level, they'll also have no problems doing so even without using Easy/Porn Mode.

In the end, only my concern about the sexiness bonus being justified on jewelery-like shield accessory still stands, and even that is put in question by some of the items we currently have in game.

P.S. Sexy Space Tuxedo, yes or no?
 

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there are a lot more money sinks than effective ways to earn them atm.
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks that!

On topic, I like the shleld necklace, corset and muti "bullet" Derringer ideas.
 

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P.S. Sexy Space Tuxedo, yes or no?
*curses at the lack of specific equipment slots and decent male fashion*

Here, have a pair of things.

Luxurious Top Hat (Accessory)
What mythical beast gave up its pelt for this masterpiece? Felt dark as the void: a hat-band a king could wear as a crown. Come, villain: this is a hat to be reckoned with! 

+ Sexiness

Impeccably-Tailored Suit (Armor)
Every inch precisely fitted: every stitch exactly in its place. How handsome! How dashing! A suit such as this draws the eye like a candleflame draws moths. Just don't let it go to your head. 

+ Sexiness
 
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The name of the item should say what it actually is. Things like "Impeccably-Tailored Ensemble" or "Lady's Intimates" seem fine when labeling the item in the inventory, but come off weird and stilted when called on in actual scenes.

Also, not every piece of equipment needs to carry a random penalty. What's with that? (Evasion penalty in particular isn't a good idea, since it has no effect on a techie or ranged mercenary, but basically negates some of smuggler's perks.)
 

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The name of the item should say what it actually is. Things like "Impeccably-Tailored Ensemble" or "Lady's Intimates" seem fine when labeling the item in the inventory, but come off weird and stilted when called on in actual scenes.

Right, because the parser just uses the item's inventory name. Herp a derp. Fixing.

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Also, not every piece of equipment needs to carry a random penalty. What's with that? (Evasion penalty in particular isn't a good idea, since it has no effect on a techie or ranged mercenary, but basically negates some of smuggler's perks.)
The intent here is that wearing these outfits should be a commitment to lust damage over HP damage - or at least make it /harder/ to fight using HP damage, since you're wearing something so impractical. The penalties shouldn't seem random - they should be natural consequences of the choices the character's made.

(I may be stretching it a bit with the Gentleman's stuff, though. :I)

Meanwhile, continuing with the 'fashion accessories as weapons' theme:

Lady's Parasol
A portable sunshade and fashion accessory. Also serves as an improvised bludgeon in a pinch. 

Melee Weapon
Laughable Kinetic Damage
+ Sexiness
+ Thermal Resistance

Gentleman's Cane
A dapper addition to any outfit, with a hundred and one daily uses. Parts bushes, probes hazards, and steadies unstable footing. Also serves as a singlestick, in the absence of any better weapon.

Melee Weapon
Laughable Kinetic Damage
+ Sexiness
+ Evasion
 

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The intent here is that wearing these outfits should be a commitment to lust damage over HP damage - or at least make it /harder/ to fight using HP damage, since you're wearing something so impractical. The penalties shouldn't seem random - they should be natural consequences of the choices the character's made.
If the intent is to make it harder to deal HP damage, why penalize Evasion or Fortification? Why boost Accuracy?

Also, wouldn't wearing armour that has no Defense (or any defensive stats) or using a weapon that deals crap damage be penalty in itself? They're impractical purely on those grounds.
 

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If the intent is to make it harder to deal HP damage, why penalize Evasion or Fortification? Why boost Accuracy?

Also, wouldn't wearing armour that has no Defense (or any defensive stats) or using a weapon that deals crap damage be penalty in itself? They're impractical purely on those grounds.

Well, underwear with stats other than sexiness currently doesn't exist, so the corset must have drawbacks in order to not instantly become the best top underwear in the game. I can maybe see your point regarding the gown, but I still feel like 'I am having trouble moving in all this chiffon' is a penalty to evasion.

(And yeah, I maybe didn't think through the Gentleman's stuff.)
 

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Well, underwear with stats other than sexiness currently doesn't exist, so the corset must have drawbacks in order to not instantly become the best top underwear in the game.

Top underwear with other stats doesn't exist yet, but that doesn't mean it won't in the future. Bottom underwear has the Thermal Underpants with other stats (and, granted, a penalty, though a negligible one). That said, it doesn't mean the corset necessary needs a penalty; the current top undertop has a stat total of +4. If the corset's to be in the same tier, +2 Sexy, +1 Fortification, +X% Kinetic resistance would do, and if it were to be higher tier, well, that'd allow for better stats still.

Sidenote: Fortification is a terrible, terrible stat, far less useful than basically any other. You also want to be careful with resistances, lest people manage to stack relevant resistance gear and trivialize encounters (see Dr. Lash and Burning resistance). I'd go +3 Sexy, +1 Defense or something for the corset.
 

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I'd go +3 Sexy, +1 Defense or something for the corset.

Your arguments as a whole make sense, and I like this suggestion in particular. I think I'll keep the pheromone-resistance penalty - I like it from a flavor standpoint - but I'll probably discard the Aim/Evasion penalties.
 

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Top underwear with other stats doesn't exist yet, but that doesn't mean it won't in the future. Bottom underwear has the Thermal Underpants with other stats (and, granted, a penalty, though a negligible one). That said, it doesn't mean the corset necessary needs a penalty; the current top undertop has a stat total of +4. If the corset's to be in the same tier, +2 Sexy, +1 Fortification, +X% Kinetic resistance would do, and if it were to be higher tier, well, that'd allow for better stats still.

Sidenote: Fortification is a terrible, terrible stat, far less useful than basically any other. You also want to be careful with resistances, lest people manage to stack relevant resistance gear and trivialize encounters (see Dr. Lash and Burning resistance). I'd go +3 Sexy, +1 Defense or something for the corset.

1)That +4 isn't unconditional and it's focused. So making an item with a net gain of ~ +4 stat points, especially if some of them is in HP combat oriented things like Defense, will potentially make it a better overall option instead of a lust combat only kink thing or a decent alternative for less endowed characters. It may also put it beyond the scope of current content, which may not be a bad thing considering the fact that.

2)I distinctly remember getting rekt by critical hits a number of times, so I won't be so hasty to write Fortification off. I couldn't find the relevant bit of code on Github though, so I can't quantify its usefulness beyond 'it seemed to help me'.

*curses at the lack of specific equipment slots and decent male fashion*

When in doubt, turn to animu. For example, Gankutsuou, while being a pretty meh adaptation of the original novel, is filled to the brim with clothing porn. And that's if we try to stick to a 'gentlemanly' side of things.

Uniforms of certain variety can also do wonders for one's sex appeal. Colonel Strict&Sexy is a great female example, but there are a lot of male ones around.

Behold the Swag of War(hammer)

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I'd also like to ask if you envision any particular store/vendor/location for the items you've suggested thus far.
 
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Let me see here. 

The Proper Lady's Set feels like it ought to be sold somewhere 'exclusive.' If I had to pick a location already in the game, I would go with Shear Beauty or Silken Serenity. 

The lust-duster would almost certainly be sold at Happy Tails or the Bimbotorium. 

As for the stat line of the corset - derp. That's actually the point I was trying to make originally, but then I apparently entirely forgot what I was saying. If I wanted to make it Myrellion/Uveto content, I might go with this stat line:

+1 Defense, +1 Fortification, +2 Sexiness: -10% Pheromone Resistance, - 1 Accuracy

We'd want to add more equivalent top-slot gear, though.
 

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1)That +4 isn't unconditional and it's focused. So making an item with a net gain of ~ +4 stat points, especially if some of them is in HP combat oriented things like Defense, will potentially make it a better overall option instead of a lust combat only kink thing or a decent alternative for less endowed characters. It may also put it beyond the scope of current content, which may not be a bad thing considering the fact that.

2)I distinctly remember getting rekt by critical hits a number of times, so I won't be so hasty to write Fortification off. I couldn't find the relevant bit of code on Github though, so I can't quantify its usefulness beyond 'it seemed to help me'.

1) The stat points are supposed to be equal, and my point was that just because the current top underwear doesn't have stats other than +Sexy doesn't mean the future content has to follow the same pattern. There's already bottom underwear (somewhat) useful for HP combat.

2) Enemies can't crit, normally. Vanae have an extra bit that gives them a chance to deal extra damage, but that's basically it. Also, Fortification doesn't affect crit rates (yours or enemies') at all, it merely increases maximum HP 1:1.

Edit: Also, how is the +4 Sexiness from Honeypot Bra not unconditional? I mean, you have to wear it to benefit, but that's the case with any piece of clothes.
 
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1) The stat points are supposed to be equal, and my point was that just because the current top underwear doesn't have stats other than +Sexy doesn't mean the future content has to follow the same pattern. There's already bottom underwear (somewhat) useful for HP combat.

2) Enemies can't crit, normally. Vanae have an extra bit that gives them a chance to deal extra damage, but that's basically it. Also, Fortification doesn't affect crit rates (yours or enemies') at all, it merely increases maximum HP 1:1.

Edit: Also, how is the +4 Sexiness from Honeypot Bra not unconditional? I mean, you have to wear it to benefit, but that's the case with any piece of clothes.
1) Right now both upper and lower undergarments provide either bonus to Sexiness or to normal combat oriented stats. Any item that'd be a middle road would muddle the kink. It could also possibly be overpowered if stated 1:1 since on average HP combat bonuses worth more, especially on characters with maxed out Tease level (due to the Tease damage cap). 

2)I could swear that I saw NPCs criting at some point. In any case, wiki lied to me once again. Would you kindly provide a link to the Fortification-related information you use?

As for Honeypot Bra, it got changed since my previous main character's foray into Myrellion content, and I'm not there yet with my new Steele. Thankfully, I've been able to find the change log. It used to provide +4 only in case of lactating PCs and +2 otherwise.
 
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