Exactly what it says on the title. Right now I'm conducting research for a future submission and I would appreciate some helpful feedback because I have never written a DILF before, to be honest with you.
What Would Y'all Like to See in a DILF NPC?
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Chill DILF, regardless of race or orientation. I'd say soft dom or flexible switch that isn't super aggressive or super subby. Someone who will let you take the reins sometimes; other times he'll take control in a firm but gentle manner. Less bdsm, dirty boy/dirty girl gonna pound you into the ground/breed your holes. More Matthew M "Alright, Alright, Alright" let's make love and get a little wild. Someone who is fun without being a bdsm erotica love interest. More softcore porn husband type who's not overly caught up in the regional plot or world struggle. Does their own thing.
Ironically, could be an Ursine for shits and giggles. Dunno, that's my take.
Ironically, could be an Ursine for shits and giggles. Dunno, that's my take.
OOH, I like the way you think !!
The DILF in question is gonna be part of the catfolk because their male population is underrepresented compared to the women. He's also gonna be a pretty man—meaning that he will be neither am uber-muscular hunk nor a femboy. Think Elyon as how he's portrayed in his bust basically but visually a fair bit older.
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I think the idea's good. I know some players really like DILFs, but they're not always in the game. I imagine you have the rough concept in place? From a setting/story perspective, I would suggest placing him in one of the later areas to fill out and from there work out why he lives, travels, or resides there temporarily. If he's going to be a pure sex npc with some minor backstory, I think that's ok too. But if you want to give him some flavor, you might concept a small quest for a later expansion if it gets approved. Just my suggestion.
The rough concept rn is that he’s a traveling merchant with a young son whose caravan was ransacked by demons so, he and his son—as the only survivors—are taking shelter in the outskirts of Khor’minos. I intend for the romance between him and the champ to be more of the sweet, slow-born type—as slow of a burn as it can be in a porn game, anyway, lol—and for the champ to be able to parent his son once they make it official.
Awesome. I love this. It's simple but fits the theme of the game. You got some good sexy time ideas, but if you do it as a classic relationship score/open new dialogue/scenes, it'll be a nice simple side plot. Also, maybe consider him having items that are harder to get and make him a more accessory/act 2 weapon seller? There's a dog morph who sells some weird transformation items for high rates in Khor'Minos. Maybe mention him as a rival/absurd prices? That's on you, but I like it.
Not to sound dramatic—but I could kiss your mind.
Seriously, though, thank you so much for your ideas! I’m gonna go inquire now how to submit a merchant. There’s so much to brainstorm !!
Psst. There's someone writing a dilf right now that you can take a peek at if you need ideas.
Well my general ideas for cat boy DILF looks would be, well, pretty boyish, if somewhat older. Especially considering that the game takes place during the bronze age, where people married and had kids young, It would be not far fetched to say that he would be in late 20s/early 30s if his kid is 8/10 years old.
He would be somewhat hunkish, not overly muscular sort but it still shows that he does his fare share of work. He would be either black or white furred, and maybe in range of 5.8-6ft (consistent with his race).
I picture him as once hot blodded adventurer/traveling merchant. The type that jumps over the cliff first, judges the distance to other side latter. He had an one night stand with a girl that he somewhat fancied, made an upsie, but instead of bailing on her, he grit his teeth and promised to be there for her. After some point, he did it less out of obligation and his self made chivalry, and more because he just really fell in love with her. The birth of his son just made himself all that more reassured in his judgement. He found two people that can listen to his boisterous claims without cringing (well to much) and enjoy listening to him full hardheartedly
The loss of his wife took a toll on him. Like, he still tries to act the same, especially in front of his kid, but there is always this nagging feeling in back of his mind that he if he had done something different, his wife would be here with him. That also leads him to be on edge, especially with dealing with things that may be out of his control, especially when it comes to taking care of his kid. He loves his boy, but is not sure if he can be a good parent without his partner. Like, he feels that she did all the heavy lifting when it comes to raising him and he was just there as a financial/emotional support. To point where he starts regretting that he met in the first place that faithful night. Not because he hates his son or her or something like that, but because if she had never met him, she may still be alive and his son would not have been stuck with him. The sorry excuse of parrent. It would be up to champion and his kid to smack some sense into him.
For his interaction with champion. They would be playful, but not flirtashious at the start. He still feels uncomftrable to get together with someone after all. After maybe some relationship score shenanigans, he can open up to us more and more untill he can start behaving more and more like his old, boisterous self.
His sex scenes would be more of the tug and pull variety. He likes when both parties are active participants, where one minute he can be pounding you into the matres, the next you are one riding him like a toy. Or just simple hugging and feeling each other out, since sometimes a simple skin on skin contact is all you need.
You would think I was writing my own cat DILF with how deep I went into this.
TLDR Do what funtastic recommended.
He would be somewhat hunkish, not overly muscular sort but it still shows that he does his fare share of work. He would be either black or white furred, and maybe in range of 5.8-6ft (consistent with his race).
I picture him as once hot blodded adventurer/traveling merchant. The type that jumps over the cliff first, judges the distance to other side latter. He had an one night stand with a girl that he somewhat fancied, made an upsie, but instead of bailing on her, he grit his teeth and promised to be there for her. After some point, he did it less out of obligation and his self made chivalry, and more because he just really fell in love with her. The birth of his son just made himself all that more reassured in his judgement. He found two people that can listen to his boisterous claims without cringing (well to much) and enjoy listening to him full hardheartedly
The loss of his wife took a toll on him. Like, he still tries to act the same, especially in front of his kid, but there is always this nagging feeling in back of his mind that he if he had done something different, his wife would be here with him. That also leads him to be on edge, especially with dealing with things that may be out of his control, especially when it comes to taking care of his kid. He loves his boy, but is not sure if he can be a good parent without his partner. Like, he feels that she did all the heavy lifting when it comes to raising him and he was just there as a financial/emotional support. To point where he starts regretting that he met in the first place that faithful night. Not because he hates his son or her or something like that, but because if she had never met him, she may still be alive and his son would not have been stuck with him. The sorry excuse of parrent. It would be up to champion and his kid to smack some sense into him.
For his interaction with champion. They would be playful, but not flirtashious at the start. He still feels uncomftrable to get together with someone after all. After maybe some relationship score shenanigans, he can open up to us more and more untill he can start behaving more and more like his old, boisterous self.
His sex scenes would be more of the tug and pull variety. He likes when both parties are active participants, where one minute he can be pounding you into the matres, the next you are one riding him like a toy. Or just simple hugging and feeling each other out, since sometimes a simple skin on skin contact is all you need.
You would think I was writing my own cat DILF with how deep I went into this.
TLDR Do what funtastic recommended.
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Daddy I like to fuck right? Then no I'm all for Milfs, hell if good looking enough even a Gilf..
The DILF in question had a wife—but she died pretty recently for story reasons.
(When in doubt, add a Missing Mom.)
Aww that's kinda sad.. would the Dilf in question have interactions that aren't just sexable?The DILF in question had a wife—but she died pretty recently for story reasons.
(When in doubt, add a Missing Mom.)
Even though they are a catboy, in a dilf I personally like scruff, chest hair, and a broader (for catboys anyways lol) build.
As far as temperment, someone very relaxed and easygoing, happy to be blown and rimmed especially, and willing to give a "helping hand" to nudge the player just an inch deeper, whatever it is they're doing. The kind of guy who would kick back in an armchair and let you service him at your leisure, but he'd make sure your entire throat and/or tongue and/or hole are put to work once you've started.
As far as temperment, someone very relaxed and easygoing, happy to be blown and rimmed especially, and willing to give a "helping hand" to nudge the player just an inch deeper, whatever it is they're doing. The kind of guy who would kick back in an armchair and let you service him at your leisure, but he'd make sure your entire throat and/or tongue and/or hole are put to work once you've started.
I never like these market research stuff when it comes to writing. Market research is already a mixture between "Let me google that for you" and whatever you would classify the oracle of delphi as. But whatever, you wrote good stuff, I hope you can do more with the responses in this thread than me.
From the listicle, I should like the dilf hellhound dog in TiTs. But in reality, I find him Meh. I like the idea behind his dad jokes, but it is just a special button you can press, instead of a memorable scene with him.
Also, the TiTS Dilfdoggo had an air of dominance, and Steele was written from the eyes of someone who isn't sexually experienced. I don't think this works for me, Steele at that time had already used every inch of body for sex.
I think the dilf lives or dies with his non-sex interactions. Brint also did it for me, I had him classified as a kinda jockey himbo. But with his other interactions, he added the "caring, and honest" to "jockey himbo".
The Dilf would need something like that for mr. An "You'll gomna be fine kid." moment maybe.
I do get what you mean. Writing for a potential audience in trad writing, either short or long form, is a poor idea. However, since COC2 is a commercial product with a built in audience, it's a different beast compared to say writing your own erotic/smut novel.
From a gameplay perspective, these are the things to consider:
1. Function: What is this character geared toward in the game? More sex npc with minimal story? Balanced npc with short side plot, trainer/merchant function, and a maybe a small quest? For me, I like characters that have some kind of mini story arc, small quest, and then you unlock most of their content. Not all NPCs need broad stories/arcs that carry over the the whole game. I would say the best model to follow for a game like COC2 is the old Bioware model. You'd have your modular area with main plot thread and the regional storyline with 2-3 broad choices that reflect in the end game slide. You create an NPC that fits that area/region and provide it.
You'd have npcs that you'd do quests for and then some follow up dialogue and then move on. That in my mind is the best way to do NPC content outside of the main supporting characters/companions.
2. Sexual Appetites/Fetishes: DILFs have been requested from what I've seen over the years, but I know they're not as in demand as intersex, third sex, or female characters. But, even still, having a character that appeals to a certain section of COC2's audience I believe gives that section their slice of the sexual pie. They may not be catered to as much, but they appreciate it, hopefully.
3. Redundancy: Aka concept overlap. For every DILF or gay character that's proposed, there's mulitple amazonian futa or dick-wielding feminine characters that outweigh them. And while they are popular, I'd take a newer concept/character over a retread of a concept that's already extensively in game. While that's not really pertinent to the discussion at hands, it's an important idea when submitting NPCS to avoid total overlap. Or the plethora of boreal elves, catfolk, and now minotaurs. There's a skew toward that while there are others without real representation. I think my favorite is Jin-Jin, the gay warrior monk in the gym. He's a great little side character with his own blurb, function, and story that makes him stand out while working within the City. He's not overly important but he's a nice NPC for that niche.
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Of course! He’s a merchant so, you would be able to buy and sell him items for instance. Also, ideally, I would like it if you could go on dates with him to get to know each other—but there just isn’t that much to do in the outskirts of Khor’minos it seems.
Add-On: Also, I liked the suggestion that he could be rivals with Nash (the shady seller of Nash's Services for those who may not know)—so, I went with that! As a businessman, he's meant to serve as a foil of sorts to Nash. While Nash currently keeps a small inventory of (probably) illegal items that he sells for incredibly high prices, for example, Hakim keeps a decently sizable inventory and, each day, 4 random items are 25% off their regular price. Also, for every 4 purchases you make, he gives the champ some free Trail Rations (1 if the champ is traveling alone, 2-3 if they're traveling alone) and advises them to remain safe out there. Lastly, in addition to being a merchant, he's also a jeweler so, I can see him having Jassiran style jewelry that the champ could equip as accessories !!
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Good news! I rechecked the Event Writer’s Guide and it said, “You can create new Locations within existing Regions, that's fine” which means that dates could be a possibility!
I think that a date to a mom-and-pop type of restaurant would be pretty cute for a first date tbh. What about you guys?
I think that a date to a mom-and-pop type of restaurant would be pretty cute for a first date tbh. What about you guys?
XD, my follow up post is currently in edit mode. As for what I was thinking, that's interesting you can create new locations within existing regions. Do you mean you can add nodes/spots or like actual new little areas/mini dungeons like Floof Haus was added. That'd be a good distinction since that seems like it'd require some harder coding from Drake.
The mom and pops idea could work, but keep in mind it's still a fantasy game with a psuedo bronze age vibe. You'll have to make it more like a small eatery. But that'd be a good idea.
This sort of character isn't really my thing so I can't contribute much, but good luck with it!
I imagine that both would be okay, provided the writing is up to standards and fits the context of whatever existing region it occupies. We've already seen examples of small expansions like the dryads' groves adding a few tiles to an existing map and Savin's comment here suggests that a user-submitted dungeon would be acceptable.
Well, considering you are doing it in place that is currently in quarantine, and I am assuming that the dad and boy are located inside of outskirts, I think it could work.
As for specific dates, hmmmmm. I think you can do it in 2 specific ways. Either create location(s) for where they will take place or do it something like what Ryn and Brint have. Have a date button that would proc random events. I think latter is better since:
a) you would not need to create a location(s) withe (a) descriptions and people that run it. You could just take him/them to random parts of the town that you made up (like bakery, school, clothing shop), places that are there just for the sake of the date and do not need to serve higher purpose.
b)you will have be able to have more varied selection of scenes and locations
Or you can combine the two. Create a tile on the map in the outskirts that is something like a public district (with different shops and public services) that procs different event each time you go on a date with him. And have all of your dates take place there. You can have variations on if it is your first time with Hakim or how far your relationship progressed.
Basically, I do like idea of intereacting with the cat boy outside of the sexy times and his design spot on the map.
That actually helps. I didn't realize that places like the dyrad grove were added or something like a mini-dungeon associated with a good write up/regional theme/can we slot it in? That actually helps with my more long-term project I've cooking up a as a pipe project. Thank you for the info.
This is a good idea. Using existing areas written within the region is a really good idea.
Those are very good ideas! I think I'll do the latter since it's easier like you said. Does anyone know if there's some lore on the cuisine on Khor'minos that I can find btw ?? I wanna gather as much research as possible. Also, I hope that y'all would be prepared for the lewdest content of them all...hand-holding.
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No y-you wouldn't t-that's scandalous.Also, I hope that y'all would be prepared for the lewdest content of them all...hand-holding.