What "really" happened to all our stuff?

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JakeCWolf

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Well since Ted couldn't do his job, I.E; using full sentences to explain what happened, I'll do it myself. Despite Fen explaining it in his first post on the front, I think it's important it be stickied here for posterity, and for those people who bypassed the main page altogether, which I'm sure is more then a few, given the address didn't change.

So what happened was the Server Host that hosted Fenoxo went out of business, and when they did took every site hosted by them, and all content stored on those sites, down with the sinking ship. The Host did send Fen an e-mail about this all going down some time beforehand, but said E-mail got flagged as spam by G-mail, so by the time Fen found it in there, the deed had been done, though as Fen himself pointed out all the invoices found their way to his non spam inbox just fine. Aren't useless spam filters wonderful?

This all lead to Fen buying a brand new package and relaunching Fenoxo.com as you see it now (which I unofficially dub Fenoxo.com 2.0), devoid of all the thousands of pages of horse nobs and big tits shenanigans that it had accumulated over the years.

So that begs the question, is our stuff really gone? The answer that is both yes and no, let me explain;

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When you delete something on a computer it really isn't "deleted" per say, instead the computer marks the file as "free space" and anything that needs space to write something may overwrite some or all of the old information present, however much it needs for the new content. There is in fact a strong likelihood that a good chunk if not all of Fenoxo.com 1.0's content is still there, that's the "yes" part of the answer, but before you get your hopes up, here's the "no" part to go along with it;

The servers Fenoxo.com 1.0 where stored on where likely liquidated as part of the company shutting down, and if there not waiting to be bought by someone else, they already have been. Now normally it is standard procedure to wipe all data held on servers before transferring ownership of them via programs that write over every byte of data with random gibberish several times over, but lets be honest, they probably didn't, people are lazy as fuck and it's easier to say they did it then to have really done it.

Problem is that even if we did find the old servers housing all our smut and other nonsense it would be a monumental pain in the ass to recover it and make it accessible in a usable manner, under the assumption that we didn't hit the 30% server people who actual would wipe the servers, and then the the technical nightmare of tracking down which one was ours and even then legal roadblocks that would make it near impossible.

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The short of the long (dongers) is that in the time it would take to recover all of our data, the garbled mess of code it would be, we could not only more or less rewrite everything we lost from memory but add to it and make it infinity better with the extra time we would have. Now everyone might blame Fen saying "OMERGERD Fen! If only you backed up the site more often this wouldn't have happened!!1!" And while this is true I have to defend Fen by saying shit happens. We all screw up sometimes, Fen is fallible human being like all of us, let it go, lessons learned.

This has been a learning experience for us all, mostly to not rely on something on the internet to always be there as to make it the only place we record our precious information, and that keeping all of our tentacle slongs in one basket is a bad idea, those people who have reposted large amounts of past info from Fenoxo.com 1.0 did some because they had backups, and that's a habit we all should get into, Fen himself said he will be more often backing up site then he was before, as to avoid this happening again.

So in short here's the informative TL;DR:

All of old stuff, if it still exists, which it may or may not is so far out of reach it might as well be considered gone entirely. Best if we all start over and learn to back-up all our smutty smut from now on. The End.

Hope that answers most of people's questions. See Ted I can do this moderating crap too! :p
 

Nonesuch

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Imagine being the kind of guy who gets so much sand in his vagina over a mod giving a one word answer to a simple question, he writes a rambling, pompous spiel framed with woefully inappropriate authority to answer it in exactly the same way, only using several hundred more words to do so.

It was a porn web-board not the Louvre that we lost, and anyone so imbecilic they don't check the front page for news when its forum disappears deserves to be left in the dark quite frankly. Get over it.
 

Gedan

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imo this entire thing serves as an important reminder to everybody. Keep Your Own Backups. If it's something important to you, keep copies of it yourself as an absolute minimum. You've only got yourself to blame if information you can't trivially replace gets lost. For all of the staff, the forums were little more than a communication tool- we didn't have anything stashed on them that we couldn't replace. The most recent bug reports maybe (especially in the face of Bess), but we'll get those again- and even then, even if we had proper backups, considering the speed the reports can shift, the backup would have probably missed it anyway.
 

Magic Ted

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That's all grossly irrelevant when the answer is "no we really don't have a backup handy so oh well."

So, uh, good job typing a bunch of passive aggressive shit I guess.
 
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