Value of Willpower

irioth

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I very much prefer my PC to be ultra-slutty and sexy but also very smart and the ultimate badass. So up to recent updates I made Steele a crossbreed of Natasha Romanoff and M.me Curie (or if you wish, Anno Dorna) despite having happily gorged on every bimbofying TF available in the game (except Dr. Badger's, since I do not fancy a panda face). Differently from the other stats I maximized, I did not bother changing the PC's Willpower from the minimum level such mods left Steele to, besides the bonus from Iron Will. I thought having a very low resistance to temptations might fit my slut ideal, I did not notice that much need for the stat, and there was not much of a way to raise it short of save editing.

While bringing my PC up to speed with the last updates, I noticed completion of Mierin's quest with several training sessions, a few leftover points from leveling up, and the aforementioned perk bonus suddenly left me at mid-level WP. Mierin's training now gives an option to maximize the stat with a little time and effort. This got me to reconsider whether for a character like mine, WP would best be very high, very low (in light of Sexy Thinking), or simply I should not care. I cannot make up my mind, either in gameplay or flavor terms. About the latter, I like my Steele to be very intelligent, confident, and self-driven, but also very vulnerable to sexy temptations.
 

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If you like getting seeded by every venus pitcher in that one area of M'henga go ahead. AFAIK the consequences of having low to no willpower are usually bad ends (trap @ Beth's Busty Broads, confronting Lane after breaking hypnosis). Also spontaneous public fapping/schlicking for people at max lust wandering around in public with max exhibitionism.
 

toritoritori

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Yeah, basically that. I think willpower can also have an impact on your ability to resist tease attacks, but that's based on what I've heard, not what I know for a fact. I like to give my characters decent-high willpower since I enjoy playing them as huge sluts who would be down to fuck at any time if only everyone would just ask, instead of forcing the issue, geez. But I'm not sure if that's the kind of characteryou're going for yourself.
 
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irioth

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Your argument have merit. I'm just not persuaded the occasional compulsion to masturbate in public at maximum lust and exhibitionism is a problem instead of a feature.;)
 

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If you like getting seeded by every venus pitcher in that one area of M'henga go ahead. AFAIK the consequences of having low to no willpower are usually bad ends (trap @ Beth's Busty Broads, confronting Lane after breaking hypnosis). Also spontaneous public fapping/schlicking for people at max lust wandering around in public with max exhibitionism.
And in some rarer cases the latter probably also leads to the former. Off the top of my head, walking in front of Dr Lash in that state is probably rather fatal.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that high willpower won't save you from lane or the beth's broads bad ends. Confronting him after going broke will result in a bad end, and so will signing Beth's second contract regardless of willpower.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that high willpower won't save you from lane or the beth's broads bad ends. Confronting him after going broke will result in a bad end, and so will signing Beth's second contract regardless of willpower.

As a trap, going to Beth's with zero willpower will result in a different bad end it has nothing to do with signing the contract a second time.

For Lane, after detox, confronting Lane with less than 75% max willpower will result in a bad end.
 

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As a trap, going to Beth's with zero willpower will result in a different bad end it has nothing to do with signing the contract a second time.

For Lane, after detox, confronting Lane with less than 75% max willpower will result in a bad end.

O.O I never would have guessed. Thanks Null for feeding my Bad-End addiction.
 

Arhon

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I dont know if i remember correctly but willpower was supposed to give you some psychic attacks or something like that.

At least when you make your character it says it there when you pick your start(Bookworm,Athletic,Austere and the rest)
 

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I dont know if i remember correctly but willpower was supposed to give you some psychic attacks or something like that.

At least when you make your character it says it there when you pick your start(Bookworm,Athletic,Austere and the rest)
You remember incorrectly. It said that it would provide a bonus to that *IF AND ONLY IF* your character were to somehow acquire something like that from a different source, but that it, obviously, would not give you that on its own.
 

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Psionics keep changing every few months. First I heard like you said it will be only endgame thing. Then I heard it may be jsut some sort of 4th class to choose. So now I not sure whcih one of all the differents approaches toward adding psionic for PC use will be done. Well we would live to see what it will became...at least not before ships x-pack will come out.
 

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Willpower is used for saves on pretty much every frostwyrm attack. As more psionic enemies get introduced, i have no doubt Fen will alter it so Bimbos can use libido for will saves.
 

TayJK

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Personally I maxed Willpower because before the newest addition to NT's gym there was no way to train it up, unlike every other stat.
 

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As a trap, going to Beth's with zero willpower will result in a different bad end it has nothing to do with signing the contract a second time.

For Lane, after detox, confronting Lane with less than 75% max willpower will result in a bad end.

I have 31 out of 40 willpower and am way past the detox stage, 31/40= .775 or 77.5%, but I keep getting the bad end from her.
 

Endwar

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Its pretty much a given now in hindsight, to invest in willpower as it is the only stat that cannot be trained to raise. With Syri help raise the INT stat, and the Gym to raise the rest having invested in willpower as a means to defend against tease and bad ends is pretty much the way to go.

@TayJK Mirrin can raise willpower? I didnt know that, neato! Although to be fair I have already maxed the willpower by then.
 

TayJK

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I didnt know that, neato! Although to be fair I have already maxed the willpower by then.

In the version she came out in she did. In those version notes Fen said she would be nerfed very quickly.
 

Ormael

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Aside Mirrin we still waits for another way to rise WIllpower utside spending stat points that req. visting Uveto.
 

irioth

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In the version she came out in she did. In those version notes Fen said she would be nerfed very quickly.

Well, not quickly enough, at least for my PC. Already got her to max WP with a steady regimen of training, fucking, showering, and sleeping. :D
 
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TayJK

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Well, not quickly enough, at least for my PC. Already got her to max WP with a steady regimen of training, fucking, showering, and sleeping. :D

Likewise. Actually, I am waiting until I have my Willpower where I want it before updating.
 

irioth

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Besides, I'm not sure why Fen should feel compelled to nerf her. Her training at last does for Willpower what the rest of Quenton's gym does for other physical stats, or Syri (and the chess-playing guy) does for Intelligence. It fixes something sorely missing in the game. Admittely I did not pay much attention to what her training does to the other stats, since I had all of them optimized already.
 
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Besides, I'm not sure why Fen should feel compelled to nerf her. Her training at last does for Willpower what the rest of Quenton's gym does for other physical stats, or Syri (and the chess-playing guy) does for Intelligence. It fixes something sorely missing in the game. Admittely I did not pay much attention to what her training does to the other stats, since I had all of them optimized already.
The only nerf he gave her was that her willpower gains give SSGs instead of being quick and super easy. It's not that bad.
 

Ormael

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It's to be fair with other stat gains for WP one training to have SSG added. And if we would be lucky when Uveto one training WP thing will come out it may be for a while also without SSG (unless devs will release it with SSG added).
 

irioth

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Fair point about SSG for Willpower. It has been quite some time since I maximized the other stats to lvl 8, and the recent 9-10 leveling up provided enough points for me to raise them to the new maximum, so I had forgotten about SSG.
 
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Ormael

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Even with SSG at max lvl that will make cap at 100 it wil be just 5 last points in each stat that player will neeed spend lvl up stat points on. All rest 95% stat grind will still be doable with SSG (they not changed it to be possible to hit 100% of stat cap recently, do they?)
 

Ormael

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You mean you love to live dangerously Arhon?

I would still stand on my ground of the more WP the merrier. I want my PC have psionic powers asap xD