Questions about Calla

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So I have yet to progress through cat call, mostly because I accidentally saved over my farthest save, so I'm not sure how far the quest goes. Still I wonder about this now and then.
Is Calla like her sister Cait? A caring person who is debited to their religion and plans to follow her sisters footsteps? Or is she a selfish person who wants to save themselves for the right person? I actually want to know what you guys imagine Cait's sister to be like (unless the updates explains enough and I haven't realized)
 

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My guess is that, much like how Gwyn and Garret each resemble one parent, Cait is meant to mirror her mother and Calla her father. One thing that should be understood about Calla's life is that Jassira doesn't sound like the easiest place to live.

Jassira a dessert country which (i'm guessing) means that while metals like copper, gold and silver are abundant, food and potable water isn't easy to come by; the rulers and temples are rich, but the townsfolk aren't. This also would mean that Jassira is very reliant on nearby empires for obtaining most of their food, or most of the citizenry lives on foodbanks and oasis. I recall one character mentioning the the Belharan empire pretty much rolled over Jassira in one of their conquests, and that would make sense if that were the case. Sex seems to be one of the biggest commodities in Jassira; any character talking with Cait mentions how sought after a temple harlot is. Leorah bemoans her life as a child in Jassira and talks down to Cait as though she were raised with a silver spoon, leading me to believe while the Harlots weren't royalty, they were far from wanting.

All of that being said, lets move to Calla's personality. She's described as adventurous and rebellious, and was born to a temple harlot. Cait tells us that her sister frequently ran away because she became antsy staying in one place. Calla probably saw the state of the common folk and blamed their poverty on the church who only opened themselves up to paying customers. Being that the church is so interconnected with sex, it would be strange for someone belonging to the church to not be promiscuous (in other words abstinence was her small, petty rebellion). It should be said that Cait is a firm believer in Mallach, so anything she says will have bias towards the temple; my guess is the reality is somewhere in the middle -- temple life wasn't easy, but it was far from bad.

All of this is speculation and Calla could easily have 10 other reasons for keeping her virginity. Maybe she loved someone and was saving it for them. Maybe she was too busy thinking of adventure and sex was but an afterthought. Maybe she just didn't believe in Mallach's teachings and it felt wasteful to have sex in his name -- which leads me to my next point: religion in Savarra is much different from how monotheism was in our middle ages (the most easily comparable time period in our world). I won't spoil the living gods' existence (in case you haven't done the salamander quest), but their existence is largely repentant and the ones we have met don't seem to have much interest in ruling over their people. In our timeline, if you didn't believe in your patron deity, you'd be labelled an apostate and either killed or bannished; in Savarra, from what I can tell, people don't seem to care much which living god one follows. I think Cait mentions there's a little religious tension between Hawkethorne and followers of Mallach, but they don't throw her out of the village for her religion (this also might have been a joke about Mallach being a cat). Calla may just not be a follower of Mallach.

Tl;dr - Calla is rebellious and might not believe in the sex religion.
 

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Interesting theory, and well-argued. Does make one wonder how she's doing in a post-Lethice Mareth, and what she'll be like if/when we have a chance to meet her...
 

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Does make one wonder how she's doing in a post-Lethice Mareth, and what she'll be like if/when we have a chance to meet her...
I suppose it depends on what the canonical ending for CoC1 is. Did Kassyra leave Mareth because the champion became a demon and there were no more lands to corrupt, or because the champion was pure and was cleansing the realm of all demonkind? Or did the champion fail? Kassyra never says that Lethice fell, afterall.
I remember reading one thread saying that the god Taoth also manages to create a portal into Savarra which presupposes the ending of CoC1 isn't favorable for the gods.
Either way it would be pretty sweet if part of the game takes place in Mareth and we get to see the aftermath of the champion's fight with Lethice while they search for Calla.
 

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Wait, what? Is Calla being in Mareth confirmed or just speculation? A while ago when Savin was asked if we’re going back to Mareth in CoC2 he said no.

Kas outright says she left because the champion was making the final assault on the demon stronghold. She doesn’t say Lethice fell because she left a while before the actual confrontation.
 
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Wait, what? Is Calla being in Mareth confirmed or just speculation?
Speculation of course. I suppose it's possible she's in Savarra, but the implication seemed to be that in order to leave Mareth there needs to be a trade between worlds -- thusly why they needed Calla to complete the ritual of bringing Kass over. Does raise the question of why they could only use a virgin.

Kas outright says she left because the champion was making the final assault on the demon stronghold.
From what I recall, she says she stole what she needed to complete the ritual during the confrontation, not that she escaped to Savarra during the fight. While I could be wrong, the entire ritual seems like a long and complex process which would take longer than a few moments to set up and complete -- not to mention that the timing of when the portals can open seem to be very specific in this universe

A while ago when Savin was asked if we’re going back to Mareth in CoC2 he said no.
That's definitely a shame if true. I would love to see Tel Adre one last time.
 

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I suppose it depends on what the canonical ending for CoC1 is. Did Kassyra leave Mareth because the champion became a demon and there were no more lands to corrupt, or because the champion was pure and was cleansing the realm of all demonkind?

Kas left just as the original champion was engaging Lethice in combat. The canonical ending is the tainted one where the champion continues fighting demons for the rest of her life. You would know this if you read the writer's guide.

I remember reading one thread saying that the god Taoth also manages to create a portal into Savarra which presupposes the ending of CoC1 isn't favorable for the gods.

He hitched a ride over on Kasyrra's balls.

By the time of the Winter City, Kas has begun summoning demons directly from Mareth.
 
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You would know this if you read the writer's guide.
I haven't seeing as I'm not a writer. Just a fan :p Might have to read it now assuming it doesn't give away too much of the plot...
He hitched a ride over on Kasyrra's balls.
Without wishing to spoil too much, does Taoth stick with Kassyrra throughout her crusade (and thusly see all the dirty sex they do/do not have), or does he immediately go off and do his own thing?
By the time of the Winter City, Kas has begun summoning demons directly from Mareth.
Is there any hope for getting Ceraph/Vapula/Zetaz etc. in CoC2?
 

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Wait, what? Is Calla being in Mareth confirmed or just speculation? A while ago when Savin was asked if we’re going back to Mareth in CoC2 he said no.

Calla's in Mareth, yes. That's how portals work -- they're two-way streets. Just cuz she's there doesn't mean you're going there.
 

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Calla's in Mareth, yes. That's how portals work -- they're two-way streets. Just cuz she's there doesn't mean you're going there.
Alright so we will be doing things from our side while she does things from her side or at least that's what I'm thinking. If that's the case I wonder if there will be a way to contact her so we can repeat the ritual ourselves.... though that brings up moral issues.

That be a cool thing:eek:
 

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It probably doesn’t, considering Kas wasn’t a virgin when she came through to Savarra.
My point is in both cases one party would be a virgin. Unless the cost is one's virginity and Calla no longer has hers. Or, because Mareth is closed off from the multiverse, the requirements are different. Or she has sex in Mareth (one way or another). Or the whole virgin thing is irrelevant and Tollus was talking out of his ass. I suppose we'll see. The whole virgin thing was largely unexplored.
 

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Am I wrong? From what I recall Tollus rants about needing pure souls for the ritual and that's it. I'm not saying the writing was lazy and didn't explain enough, only that there are revelations to come. There is nothing in the game yet that indicates she can even be rescued at all, let alone the intricacies of how the portals work.
 

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Am I wrong? From what I recall Tollus rants about needing pure souls for the ritual and that's it. I'm not saying the writing was lazy and didn't explain enough, only that there are revelations to come. There is nothing in the game yet that indicates she can even be rescued at all, let alone the intricacies of how the portals work.
You give my small brain too much credit. I was just laughing at the phrasing of it. Being largely unexplored is the definition of virginity after all.
 

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Tollus wasn't expecting Kasyrra to cross over. He was doing the exact same thing as the elders of Ingnam did at the start of CoC1 to the champ. One (preferably) virgin offering for potions of vigor, longevity and vitality.

I remember Tollus mentioning the sacrifice needing to be virgin because "the Lady likes them lile that".
 

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Tollus wasn't expecting Kasyrra to cross over. He was doing the exact same thing as the elders of Ingnam did at the start of CoC1 to the champ. One (preferably) virgin offering for potions of vigor, longevity and vitality.
I knew something felt off so I went back and sped through the tutorial again. Thinking about it your way a few other pieces fall into place that I hadn't considered yet.

Basing off what we know of CoC1, portals to Mareth opening were a thing that happened at regular intervals. It would be strange if the portal near Hawkethorne was a one time thing. As you imply here, it wasn't. There's a conversation (I think with Garth) about Tollus's cult where he says (paraphrasing) there was always talk of young girls going missing, but that nothing ever came of it. Before Tollus flees the temple, he grabs a case. If we assume the case is filled with gifts Kass left for the promised exchange, connecting those two threads gives pretty conclusive evidence of your claim.

In the Temple before first meeting Kassyra, Tollus's behavior was indeed indicative of him not expecting her to cross over. When the portal starts regurgitating cow demon, Tollus says "what the-" or some other shocked exclamation and runs out of the temple. If he expected her to come through you'd think he would stay to receive what is effectively his goddess. The other thing I found strange, is Kass says nothing about Calla. In every conversation Kass expresses how she loves corrupting pure souls: giving Eryka a corrupted cock, fucking pure souls at winter city, basically every lewd thing she says to the champion. If she met Calla on the other side of the portal, why would she say nothing about it -- especially when she knows the champion knows her.

Connecting back to the original thread we are left with this: How the hell do we free Calla? Assuming the virginal exchange is pure coincidence, this means Kassyra alone has the power to travel between Mareth and Savarra. With confirmation from both The Observer and Savin that Mareth will not be featured in CoC2, it's fair to assume the champion does not get this power. This leaves 2 options:

1. They have to go to Kass for help getting her out -- before or after she is defeated. Knowing Kass, this will not end well.

2. Calla figures it out herself. I find this unlikely seeing as Kass, someone who likely studied the workings of the portals, was only able to go through by stealing some secret knowledge and some unspecified power that allows the traversal of Mareth's portals.
 

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I knew something felt off so I went back and sped through the tutorial again. Thinking about it your way a few other pieces fall into place that I hadn't considered yet.

Basing off what we know of CoC1, portals to Mareth opening were a thing that happened at regular intervals. It would be strange if the portal near Hawkethorne was a one time thing. As you imply here, it wasn't. There's a conversation (I think with Garth) about Tollus's cult where he says (paraphrasing) there was always talk of young girls going missing, but that nothing ever came of it. Before Tollus flees the temple, he grabs a case. If we assume the case is filled with gifts Kass left for the promised exchange, connecting those two threads gives pretty conclusive evidence of your claim.

In the Temple before first meeting Kassyra, Tollus's behavior was indeed indicative of him not expecting her to cross over. When the portal starts regurgitating cow demon, Tollus says "what the-" or some other shocked exclamation and runs out of the temple. If he expected her to come through you'd think he would stay to receive what is effectively his goddess. The other thing I found strange, is Kass says nothing about Calla. In every conversation Kass expresses how she loves corrupting pure souls: giving Eryka a corrupted cock, fucking pure souls at winter city, basically every lewd thing she says to the champion. If she met Calla on the other side of the portal, why would she say nothing about it -- especially when she knows the champion knows her.

Connecting back to the original thread we are left with this: How the hell do we free Calla? Assuming the virginal exchange is pure coincidence, this means Kassyra alone has the power to travel between Mareth and Savarra. With confirmation from both The Observer and Savin that Mareth will not be featured in CoC2, it's fair to assume the champion does not get this power. This leaves 2 options:

1. They have to go to Kass for help getting her out -- before or after she is defeated. Knowing Kass, this will not end well.

2. Calla figures it out herself. I find this unlikely seeing as Kass, someone who likely studied the workings of the portals, was only able to go through by stealing some secret knowledge and some unspecified power that allows the traversal of Mareth's portals.
If kass is the key to saving calla then there may be a point where the champion makes a deal, convinces her to help or she becomes your lover due to all the cuddling done in the Halloween event which just ends with you asking (part of me is hoping I can have Kasyrra :oops:)
I see that as the most likely option since by the logic presented would mean that portal transportation isn't a common thing. Even the demons wouldn't know unless they put time into researching just like kass.
 

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there may be a point where the champion makes a deal, convinces her to help or she becomes your lover
I do agree that this is a likely scenario, but I don't know that it will be as clear cut as "they fell in love and lived happily ever after". Kassyra, more than anything else, lusts after power. Kass clearly has a lot of disdain for Lethice and I believe the reason for this is that while Lethice was physically the most powerful demon in Mareth, she lacked ambition and it meant she was utilizing very little of the power she held. I have a hard time seeing Kass completely give up her ambition just to be with someone, even if she genuinely grows past her lust and has real love for the champion. Kassyra knows something about the champion's soul that most of the realm doesn't; while she might develop genuine love for the champion, I believe her true aim will always be their soul.

I've read a few different threads about future content, and while I'm not sure any of this is completely accurate, I will say there are potential spoilers in this next paragraph. From what I understand, the story will be split into two separate parts -- when where and how I have no clue, though I will posit a guess. From what I can tell, what the champion decides to do with their soul seems to be a major plot point within the story. For instance, if you choose to side with a specific living god, the champion gives them their soul. Considering the gods are born from wraiths, beings that literally subsist on souls, one holding a soul of that caliber is an incredible asset to them -- not to mention an archdemon is also pining for that same soul. I have a feeling the story will split in 3 ways, whether the champion gives their soul to a living god, gives their soul to Kass, or keeps it to themselves and decides their own fate. If my theory is correct, the champion might bring back Calla via a trade of sorts; Kassyra gets the champion and Cait gets her sister. All of this is speculation so please take this with a grain of salt.

I apologize if my rambling has derailed this thread a bit. The amount of lore here is unprecedented for a porn game. I could speculate for days and days of what's next to come.
 
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I do agree that this is a likely scenario, but I don't know that it will be as clear cut as "they fell in love and lived happily ever after". Kassyra, more than anything else, lusts after power. Kass clearly has a lot of disdain for Lethice and I believe the reason for this is that while Lethice was physically the most powerful demon in Mareth, she lacked ambition and it meant she was utilizing very little of the power she held. I have a hard time seeing Kass completely give up her ambition just to be with someone, even if she genuinely grows past her lust and has real love for the champion. Kassyra knows something about the champion's soul that most of the realm doesn't; while she might develop genuine love for the champion, I believe her true aim will always be their soul.

I've read a few different threads about future content, and while I'm not sure any of this is completely accurate, I will say there are potential spoilers in this next paragraph. From what I understand, the story will be split into two separate parts -- when where and how I have no clue, though I will posit a guess. From what I can tell, what the champion decides to do with their soul seems to be a major plot point within the story. For instance, if you choose to side with a specific living god, the champion gives them their soul. Considering the gods are born from wraiths, beings that literally subsist on souls, one holding a soul of that caliber is an incredible asset to them -- not to mention an archdemon is also pining for that same soul. I have a feeling the story will split in 3 ways, whether the champion gives their soul to a living god, gives their soul to Kass, or keeps it to themselves and decides their own fate. If my theory is correct, the champion might bring back Calla via a trade of sorts; Kassyra gets the champion and Cait gets her sister. All of this is speculation so please take this with a grain of salt.

I apologize if my rambling has derailed this thread a bit. The amount of lore here is unprecedented for a porn game. I could speculate for days and days of what's next to come.
No problem at all. It actually adds more info into what possibilities can happen. As for the lovers thing yeah I have to agree since there really isn't a logical way for her to drop everything for the champion. The only way that could happen is if throughout the story there will be ways to slowly help her regain humanity without her knowing (and maybe you too) though that's a longshot. At best I can see her wanting the champion but knowing there's no chance due to the conflicting goals.

Back to calla at hand! If this speculation of the champion's soul is true that would mean there are 3 ways to possibly get her back though I'm guessing there can be a few outcomes due to how it's handled. If you give it to Kass she will likely corrupt calla in the process of bringing her back, for the other god it will be the safest but you lose your soul either way but if you keep it then the process will take longer with maybe a 50%-50% on how calla will be affected
 
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The only way that could happen is if throughout the story there will be ways to slowly help her regain humanity without her knowing (and maybe you too) though that's a longshot
If I may dissect this a bit, we need to remember where demons come from. When exposed to a great amount of corruption either through magic, doing evil deeds, or copulating with corrupted beings (I guess it's rather unclear what corruption really is); a being of a pure race will orgasm their soul out and their soul takes shape as a purple crystal aka Lethicite. The stronger the being, the bigger the soul which means they will create bigger pieces of Lethicite.

While there's definitely room to retcon things from CoC1, the only instances of demons turning back into the pure races, was when (in one of the endings) Marae uses a large chunk of Lethicite to turn Lethice back into a human then subsequently pure Lethice doing the same to other demons. Going strictly by CoC1 lore it's possible there's someone who can use lethicite to cure demonism in Savarra, I just don't know how likely that would be. Maybe there is another, yet unforeseen method. We shall see.

No problem at all. It actually adds more info into what possibilities can happen.
Perhaps I should ramble on a bit more then because I recently read something very interesting. When starting Garth's quest to find the king's amulet (or whatever it's called), the champion is tasked with talking to Boomer about gaining entry to the fort. If Cait is in the party Boomer will pull her off to the side and give her a vision of some sort (presumably). She is very saddened by this premonition (or whatever it is) and she doesn't talk to the champion about what it was about. I find this very perplexing.

What could she have seen to want to hide it from the champion? Does it have to do with her mother, the temple, or Jassira? This could make sense since none of that is the champion's business; I just don't see how it would be relevant. Is it some revelation about Calla? Was she turned into a demon? Is she dead? Is there no way to bring her back from Mareth? If this were the case you'd think she would tell the champion right away. The thing that most makes sense to me is it has something to do with the champion's or her own fate. If she saw something that could cause the champion to stray from their path or refuse to continue looking for Calla. She does realize following the champion is her only shot at recovering her sister after all.

If you give it to Kass she will likely corrupt calla in the process of bringing her back
I don't agree with this. While Kassyra is far from the paragon of morality, there haven't been any instances (so far at least) of her forcing corruption on people and taking their souls: The alraune lays with her consensually; Tollus and his followers asked her for corruption; The only time she rapes the champion is in their dreams (maybe also in a bad end after losing to the imps?), but it's established by Viviane the witch that the dreams can't physically effect the dreamer. The only instances of her spreading corruption non-consensually are fringe cases: she gives Erika a corrupted dick, but Erika attacks her first; she talks about fucking the souls out of elves, but there's no real evidence of this and she's a known liar; The alraune and the imps the champion can birth (Kassyra's children) spread corruption, but she doesn't order them to do this. I guess we will see what she does in Winter City, but I have a feeling this trend will continue. She seems to want to watch the realm corrupt itself, only giving small pushes and pulls where needed - give power to those that ask and watch them corrupt their kin. I don't think she would corrupt Calla unless Calla directly asks her to.
 
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If I may dissect this a bit, we need to remember where demons come from. When exposed to a great amount of corruption either through magic, doing evil deeds, or copulating with corrupted beings (I guess it's rather unclear what corruption really is); a being of a pure race will orgasm their soul out and their soul takes shape as a purple crystal aka Lethicite. The stronger the being, the bigger the soul which means they will create bigger pieces of Lethicite.

While there's definitely room to retcon things from CoC1, the only instances of demons turning back into the pure races, was when (in one of the endings) Marae uses a large chunk of Lethicite to turn Lethice back into a human then subsequently pure Lethice doing the same to other demons. Going strictly by CoC1 lore it's possible there's someone who can use lethicite to cure demonism in Savarra, I just don't know how likely that would be. Maybe there is another, yet unforeseen method. We shall see.


Perhaps I should ramble on a bit more then because I recently read something very interesting. When starting Garth's quest to find the king's amulet (or whatever it's called), the champion is tasked with talking to Boomer about gaining entry to the fort. If Cait is in the party Boomer will pull her off to the side and give her a vision of some sort (presumably). She is very saddened by this premonition (or whatever it is) and she doesn't talk to the champion about what it was about. I find this very perplexing.

What could she have seen to want to hide it from the champion? Does it have to do with her mother, the temple, or Jassira? This could make sense since none of that is the champion's business; I just don't see how it would be relevant. Is it some revelation about Calla? Was she turned into a demon? Is she dead? Is there no way to bring her back from Mareth? If this were the case you'd think she would tell the champion right away. The thing that most makes sense to me is it has something to do with the champion's or her own fate. If she saw something that could cause the champion to stray from their path or refuse to continue looking for Calla. She does realize following the champion is her only shot at recovering her sister after all.


I don't agree with this. While Kassyra is far from the paragon of morality, there haven't been any instances (so far at least) of her forcing corruption on people and taking their souls: The alraune lays with her consensually; Tollus and his followers asked her for corruption; The only time she rapes the champion is in their dreams (maybe also in a bad end after losing to the imps?), but it's established by Viviane the witch that the dreams can't physically effect the dreamer. The only instances of her spreading corruption non-consensually are fringe cases: she gives Erika a corrupted dick, but Erika attacks her first; she talks about fucking the souls out of elves, but there's no real evidence of this and she's a known liar; The alraune and the imps the champion can birth (Kassyra's children) spread corruption, but she doesn't order them to do this. I guess we will see what she does in Winter City, but I have a feeling this trend will continue. She seems to want to watch the realm corrupt itself, only giving small pushes and pulls where needed - give power to those that ask and watch them corrupt their kin. I don't think she would corrupt Calla unless Calla directly asks her to.
That last bit makes me very happy, gives me hope for what kass might so that would even be considered good, imagining her now being shocked at the player asking for her hand in marriage
 

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gives me hope for what kass might so that would even be considered good
I'm conflicted as to whether I can consider anything Kassyra does "good". She clearly suffers from acute Junko Enoshima syndrome, (major Danganronpa spoilers ahead) where spreading corruption causes immense strife for anyone that is pure, but everyone that is corrupt feels eternal bliss. In Danganronpa everyone that goes insane from despair is rendered unable to feel sadness and pain, as sadness and pain brings them unimaginable pleasure; Junko creates (intentionally or unintentionally) a world where everyone is always "happy", but in the process lives are ruined, innocents are slaughtered, atrocities are committed (Danganronpa spoilers done); while we haven't seen what a corrupted world looks under Kassyra, we know that the corrupt gain pleasure proportional to how hedonistic their acts are.

The corrupt feel the most pleasure from raping the pure and weak, from destroying successful civilizations and turning them into giant orgies, from watching great heroes unwillingly orgasm out their souls and become corrupt themselves. On one hand, she aims to create a world of endless pleasure, where pain is replaced with bliss, and emotion is replaced with sexual hunger; but on the other hand, the path is stained with the blood and tears of the pure and innocent. Free will is abolished and the concepts of love, friendship, and family will cease to exist.

We don't know what Kassyra's goal really is; there's clearly something larger than making everyone corrupt and sex-loving. I do think that Kassyra is morally grey: she likes to play up how she's super evil, but so far all we've seen her do is corrupt willing subjects. She likely knows about the chaos that corrupting powerful leaders will inevitably cause, but she can't really be blamed for the actions of others. I certainly can't call her "good", but I'm very interested in seeing what her plans are for the champion and how they will effect the realm.
 
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I'm conflicted as to whether I can consider anything Kassyra does "good". She clearly suffers from acute Junko Enoshima syndrome, (major Danganronpa spoilers ahead) where spreading corruption causes immense strife for anyone that is pure, but everyone that is corrupt feels eternal bliss. In Danganronpa everyone that goes insane from despair is rendered unable to feel sadness and pain, as sadness and pain brings them unimaginable pleasure; Junko creates (intentionally or unintentionally) a world where everyone is always "happy", but in the process lives are ruined, innocents are slaughtered, atrocities are committed (Danganronpa spoilers done); while we haven't seen what a corrupted world looks under Kassyra, we know that the corrupt gain pleasure proportional to how hedonistic their acts are.

The corrupt feel the most pleasure from raping the pure and weak, from destroying successful civilizations and turning them into giant orgies, from watching great heroes unwillingly orgasm out their souls and become corrupt themselves. On one hand, she aims to create a world of endless pleasure, where pain is replaced with bliss, and emotion is replaced with sexual hunger; but on the other hand, the path is stained with the blood and tears of the pure and innocent. Free will is abolished and the concepts of love, friendship, and family will cease to exist.

We don't know what Kassyra's goal really is; there's clearly something larger than making everyone corrupt and sex-loving. I do think that Kassyra is morally grey: she likes to play up how she's super evil, but so far all we've seen her do is corrupt willing subjects. She likely knows about the chaos that corrupting powerful leaders will inevitably cause, but she can't really be blamed for the actions of others. I certainly can't call her "good", but I'm very interested in seeing what her plans are for the champion and how they will effect the realm.
Agree there. Makes me think of a chaotic character like discord from mlp, or maybe q from star trek. They often aren't seen as good at times, but give the right pushes, and they become faithful allies. I feel Kassyra could be that, emphasis on could, but it would take a very loving champion, again like fluttershy to discord, to teach them that they could use their powers for more good so to speak.
 
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