[Patreon] City of Pleasures 0.03a Update (new model with softbody physics!)

[3rasvok]

In City of Pleasures you take the role or a young girl who recently moved to the city to seek her fortune. Your job is to keep her in shape so she can work effectively and make enough money to satisfy all her needs.


New build 0.03a:
- mostly a techincal update;
- still has some bugs;


New features in the free build:
- full body softbody physics via compute shaders;
- conforming layered cloths;
- ik drag pose modifier - still buggy;

Gym is not finished yet still patron feature, will be available in the free build in the next big update with a character
generator and saveable profiles.



New features in the master build:
- added lots of cheats and body modification sliders;








Patreon link: https://www.patreon.com/lsonic

Free build download: https://mega.nz/#!nHoQWCqb!_PrzRu7JJ02AXFgaiSKTDqg_oGFVT3pSWxar3cx02zc

 

[Tinman]

Other than muscle growth, what fetishes and pairings are planned?

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

I know this is a fresh new game, but gonna be giving some tough love because I like where this is going in some ways and not with others.

I really like life sims, but I really want them to be more about fun than about putting blocks up to strategic decisions or content. This game is going towards the latter, but it's also a very early build with few people providing feedback or testing. We can fix this.

I like FMG. Gimme dat.

- No basic directions. Let me help:
---Click on the floor to move to that location
---Click doors and objects to use them.
------Toothbrush cup, Shower, Toilet, Fridge, Laptop, Bed, Broken TV, Chair.
---Some objects that make you pose have options attached for posing. Some poses seem to be functional like masturbation.
---Work can be missed, needs seem to impact income?, Work doesn't happen on weekends, which sucks because there's nothing to do.

- Need decays are pretty harsh. Every day will be occupied with 2 minutes sitting on the shitter and struggling to click hygiene items instead of playing.
- Please denote version someplace in options or add an "about" tab.
- Free up the camera. It's very hard to navigate.
- Give us some basic cheats or grace-items until you're into beta. Give your patrons extra cheats.
- Why does it take so long to use the toilet? Really? Really?
- GRINNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD
- Income is very harsh. I hope there aren't plans for rent or other living expenses, because that's not encouraging.
- No apparent change after 10 minutes playing. I'll assume It doesn't exist or is incredibly difficult to get to happen in the public build. (Which isn't doing anyone any favors)
- No features in introductory public build. You can walk around, go to work, and buy food.
- 10 dollar builds? Trickle down? At least it's a 3D Game, but the crotch on the model needs work.
- Fast forward only from the bed is annoying and a pain in the ass. Activities sinking time make me wanna crack open the game and cheat if there's no reward, no randomized events, no dialogue...It's gonna be two years before those things come in, I'd reckon.
- What does the box on the bathroom wall do?
- It's too early to be asking for money.
- If you're really going for our patreonsheckles, can you show us something in advanced builds when you announce them?

That being said, here's some positive things:

- 3D
- Muscle? Let's see what it looks like.
- Content? None, but let's see what you got. Give us something to show yourself off and what we can expect.
- With better camera controls this could be neat with multiple locations to explore or find hidden things. DO give us hidden things.

I wish you luck! Work hard and be gracious and generous gameplay-wise. You'll find that generosity and openness will get you people to test and perhaps help with hard problems.

 

[3rasvok]

Other than muscle growth, what fetishes and pairings are planned?

It's hard to tell so early, but I'm open to anything that's within the engine's capabilities.

 

[3rasvok]

I know this is a fresh new game, but gonna be giving some tough love because I like where this is going in some ways and not with others.

I really like life sims, but I really want them to be more about fun than about putting blocks up to strategic decisions or content. This game is going towards the latter, but it's also a very early build with few people providing feedback or testing. We can fix this.

I like FMG. Gimme dat.

- No basic directions. Let me help:
---Click on the floor to move to that location
---Click doors and objects to use them.
------Toothbrush cup, Shower, Toilet, Fridge, Laptop, Bed, Broken TV, Chair.
---Some objects that make you pose have options attached for posing. Some poses seem to be functional like masturbation.
---Work can be missed, needs seem to impact income?, Work doesn't happen on weekends, which sucks because there's nothing to do.

- Need decays are pretty harsh. Every day will be occupied with 2 minutes sitting on the shitter and struggling to click hygiene items instead of playing.
- Please denote version someplace in options or add an "about" tab.
- Free up the camera. It's very hard to navigate.
- Give us some basic cheats or grace-items until you're into beta. Give your patrons extra cheats.
- Why does it take so long to use the toilet? Really? Really?
- GRINNNNNNDDDDDDDDDD
- Income is very harsh. I hope there aren't plans for rent or other living expenses, because that's not encouraging.
- No apparent change after 10 minutes playing. I'll assume It doesn't exist or is incredibly difficult to get to happen in the public build. (Which isn't doing anyone any favors)
- No features in introductory public build. You can walk around, go to work, and buy food.
- 10 dollar builds? Trickle down? At least it's a 3D Game, but the crotch on the model needs work.
- Fast forward only from the bed is annoying and a pain in the ass. Activities sinking time make me wanna crack open the game and cheat if there's no reward, no randomized events, no dialogue...It's gonna be two years before those things come in, I'd reckon.
- What does the box on the bathroom wall do?
- It's too early to be asking for money.
- If you're really going for our patreonsheckles, can you show us something in advanced builds when you announce them?

That being said, here's some positive things:

- 3D
- Muscle? Let's see what it looks like.
- Content? None, but let's see what you got. Give us something to show yourself off and what we can expect.
- With better camera controls this could be neat with multiple locations to explore or find hidden things. DO give us hidden things.

I wish you luck! Work hard and be gracious and generous gameplay-wise. You'll find that generosity and openness will get you people to test and perhaps help with hard problems.

Thanks for the feedback! I'll consider your suggestions.

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

So! It's been a month! How's it going?

 

[3rasvok]

So! It's been a month! How's it going?

Hey! This month's been a mess but I was working on it constantly. You can expect an update very soonish!

 

[3rasvok]

0.02 Update:

All versions:
-"needs" has been tweaked
-new animations
-new poses
-other small tweaks and fixes

Test features:
-gym has been added
-dynamic muscle gain added

Cheats:
-all existing cheats have been extended
-Added adjustable "fitness" & "muscle"

Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/oddTQmH

Free version: https://mega.nz/#!bepjkLyZ!nibSTk4flJw0klLik8YEin7rT-Q-8mWH4iKDFtRCZp8

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lsonic

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

- Really bad blurring on close camera angles (1920x1080, Ultra settings) - might be just the DoF effect.
- Camera still getting itself in awkward places, making navigating the tight space of the apartment a pain.
- The highlight effect on objects isn't stopped by the player avvy.
- Didn't see the Gym as an option for travel. Can't test it.
- Shower tough to use between opening door and using it.
- Restoration of needs is much better. For objects like the cup, perhaps doubelclicking would be nicer than a menu?
- GUI Labels like FPS counter, resolution label, etc are big on my own resolution. Perhaps best on 4K, but not on lower resolutions, where they start mashing together and are too large font size.

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

Two months! What's up?
We get to see some muscle-building, yet?

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

WOW! The latest public version is definitely what I like to see. Seeing the character grow muscle is great.

Just gonna give more feedback:

- There's three machines, but only one is balanced. It should be slower, but more controlled.
- Player shouldn't be able to pick up weights they can't handle at all.
- Natural Breasts are a bit too watery.
- There's a bug where too much time bouncing in high speed will distort large breasts - warping their tris WAY out of whack.
- I just stuck with the black ball weight. Kinda lame gameplay wise to just wait.
- Progression seems linear with time after your endurance can survive max intensity. Caloric need should be slightly higher scale up.
- Clothes needs some work. There's some clipping.
- Shoes can't be removed? Am I missing something?
- Had a rare texture "checkering/distortion" on the back muscles.
- Boobs in fax sex mode can get very strange, although this might just be my settings.
- Male Model work, soon? Items that can change body?
- Sound or visual indicators that an item was used? Sometimes it's hard to tell if food was used without having the calorie screen up.
- Maxing out at 100 immediately rolls back to 99 upon exit from workout. From what I can tell, you can probably go to 120-130, but I'd be happy if there were more quality/activities/self-improvements instead if it wasn't possible to grow even further.
- The UI doesn't scale correctly at different resolutions - even the once provided.
- Game really really needs optimization.
- The hair is a bit intense in terms of action and still looks a bit bad. Perhaps work with deforming or springing chunks instead of strands.

 

[3rasvok]

WOW! The latest public version is definitely what I like to see. Seeing the character grow muscle is great.

Just gonna give more feedback:

- There's three machines, but only one is balanced. It should be slower, but more controlled.
- Player shouldn't be able to pick up weights they can't handle at all.
- Natural Breasts are a bit too watery.
- There's a bug where too much time bouncing in high speed will distort large breasts - warping their tris WAY out of whack.
- I just stuck with the black ball weight. Kinda lame gameplay wise to just wait.
- Progression seems linear with time after your endurance can survive max intensity. Caloric need should be slightly higher scale up.
- Clothes needs some work. There's some clipping.
- Shoes can't be removed? Am I missing something?
- Had a rare texture "checkering/distortion" on the back muscles.
- Boobs in fax sex mode can get very strange, although this might just be my settings.
- Male Model work, soon? Items that can change body?
- Sound or visual indicators that an item was used? Sometimes it's hard to tell if food was used without having the calorie screen up.
- Maxing out at 100 immediately rolls back to 99 upon exit from workout. From what I can tell, you can probably go to 120-130, but I'd be happy if there were more quality/activities/self-improvements instead if it wasn't possible to grow even further.
- The UI doesn't scale correctly at different resolutions - even the once provided.
- Game really really needs optimization.
- The hair is a bit intense in terms of action and still looks a bit bad. Perhaps work with deforming or springing chunks instead of strands.

Well I really need this kind of feedback for sure! So shoot me straight!



- There's three machines, but only one is balanced. It should be slower, but more controlled.
- Yepp balancing is always hard. Which one you think is balanced?


- Player shouldn't be able to pick up weights they can't handle at all.
- You are right this can be done easily.

- Natural Breasts are a bit too watery.
- Well its the nature of my softbody algorithm, pretty hard to set perfect values, I'm up to make this work in every cases.

- There's a bug where too much time bouncing in high speed will distort large breasts - warping their tris WAY out of whack.
- Same softbody alorithm thing...

- I just stuck with the black ball weight. Kinda lame gameplay wise to just wait.
- Yes perhaps this one is not really balanced yet.

- Progression seems linear with time after your endurance can survive max intensity. Caloric need should be slightly higher scale up.
- Please explain it more, I'm up to balance this.


- Clothes needs some work. There's some clipping.
- Sure I know this, I think you are referring to socks and shoes. They are using different shaders, ordering is not handled yet.
Also clothes needs some stretching like upper clothes on breasts but for now they are perfectly comforming to the body. I'm working on a solution.

- Shoes can't be removed? Am I missing something?
- Nope! You are right! Shoes are just there. This is something must be done asap, even I want to add high heels...


- Had a rare texture "checkering/distortion" on the back muscles.
- I think its about linear skinning artifacts... I already added helper bones to solve them but not using them all yet...


- Boobs in fax sex mode can get very strange, although this might just be my settings.
- Its my softbody algorithm again...

- Male Model work, soon? Items that can change body?
- I really want a new male model, something like $200 for the base, I'll buy as soon as I can.

- Sound or visual indicators that an item was used? Sometimes it's hard to tell if food was used without having the calorie screen up.
- Ok I got it!

- Maxing out at 100 immediately rolls back to 99 upon exit from workout. From what I can tell, you can probably go to 120-130, but I'd be happy if there were more quality/activities/self-improvements instead if it wasn't possible to grow even further.
- I'll check this.

- The UI doesn't scale correctly at different resolutions - even the once provided.
- It should work as expected.. I'll look after this.

- Game really really needs optimization.
- I'm using compute shaders for many effect and they are not very well optimized I know, but still running good on my Q9450/6GB/750ti. Maybe you are enabled high resoultion rendering? That one surely kills performance.
Or perhaps IK-interacting? Not really working, I think I'll remove this and find a workaround...

- The hair is a bit intense in terms of action and still looks a bit bad. Perhaps work with deforming or springing chunks instead of strands.
- Yeah for sure... I realized it... I want to go for strands because I want perfectly working solution for any hair style... so I need more segments and
bezier interpolate hair strips for smooth results. Also needs a proper shader, wanna implement Kajiya-Kay shader. Its a difficult one dont want to disappear for months! It needs to be done but 1st I want to add more content!

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

- Yepp balancing is always hard. Which one you think is balanced?

Well, you should have to choose between the two machines for fitness or Muscle, but there shouldn't be a penalty to the other. The balanced ball weights are fine, but should progress slower. I understand there will be more game to justify a choice later.

- Please explain it more, I'm up to balance this.

You should increase the rate that caloric need increases. To see it cap out at 3000/day at 100 muscles and fitness is kinda crazy. That person probably needs at least double the caloric intake to maintain that body without it eating itself.

This would have the effect of making more frequent trips to the gym, which I assume will also have an effect on the larger game once its implemented. Currently, you can max yourself out in 7 days.

- I'll check this.

Great. Also, while I definitely would love to see muscles 120, I can understand if the model becomes very unstable after 100. I feel like there should be things to do with your strength. Every good pron game has the game doing things with or to you and you can respond. Remember: "Things in the game world should do things."

- It should work as expected.. I'll look after this.

It might be time for a pass on the UI, in general. At some resolutions the hitboxes for things distorts - resulting in you having to click in empty spaces to find the control. Some elements flat out disappear and there's no keyboard equivalent to deal with that. At low performances, the camera becomes very unstable.

- I'm using compute shaders for many effect and they are not very well optimized I know, but still running good on my Q9450/6GB/750ti. Maybe you are enabled high resoultion rendering? That one surely kills performance.
Or perhaps IK-interacting? Not really working, I think I'll remove this and find a workaround...

Even at low settings, a black film covers the body, and objects will severely desync from their correct position (think the ball weight being way, WAY off in the sequence). Definitely add to the options menu as much as you can to let us control things and perhaps zero in on problems.

 

[DarkSinfulMage]

Tried making myself fat. Some more things:

- Screen transition is linked to timescale. If your timescale is low - the transition takes a long time. If it's fast, the transition is fast.
- Skipping time does not apply LiveCam Funds correctly.
- As it stands - gaining fat is a much longer process than gaining muscle. Scale for calories should probably be CaloricNeed+SomeBaseNumber+a_scaling_multiplier. Whatever the body doesn't use as food goes through in 10-12 hours it immediately starts turning to fat.Timing is important.
- Probably advanced for the early work on the models, but breast size should somehow come into equation for burning fat or build fat. Provide the means in game for controlling it outside of natural processes.

EDIT: It also seems like getting to fat 100 makes it impossible to recover due to 0 endurance.

ALSO: Interesting bug - leaving an exercise while in an exhausted state does crazy things to your character in terms of going through doors and walking around. Definitely make sure the character arrives in the correct position and state once they transition - because I got my fat girl stuck in the apartment and the camera is not cooperating.