I saw a picture of has as a elf, does it has meaning? Like a redemption to where you turn kas back to normal or something?
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Lone Wolf115
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No it's her appearance at the the winter city festival if you do her romance path.
Yeah, that's just one of Kas' various disguises and doesn't mean anything deeper. There is a whole planned questline for her called Redemption which just might offer the possibility of restoring her humanity without destroying her personality but that's incomplete and probably isn't going to actually resolve the matter before the game is done, because otherwise we wouldn't have a primary antagonist.
im have no authority to say so but imo i feel like if they wanted to they could easily do a last minute change up where you deal with kas, then some lovecraft level horror starts fully leaking through and you have to confront that, either as a second part of a final boss fight or something like a epilogue-y thing where you deal or help kass, and have to fight off the real bad juju shit like painted demons etc. i dunno i can see writing her as the final boss but i feel like shes kinda more like uh, if you ever played of agarest war a dyshana, or basically, she's very important and a key part but theres still something behind the curtain imo
I realize the game isn't done and things are being added. But from her lines she implies that she was human once. She was defeated and corrupted into her current demon self. Her lines imply that the demons can esssentially change their forms at will. She hints during a talk with her that she could take on the form of her human self. She appears as an elf and a cat girl as well.
there's a redemption quest and thus an arc. So she's not exactly a "take over the world" antagonist. She tells you depending on your choices that she wasnts the mc to breed her and through the use of their radiant soul. To have not imps but an actual child with a soul. She works with us at times and even returns souls of cat girls she corrupted when we talk to the cat god.
It seems the real unredeemable antagonist is the being which corrupted kas. Why not have the option to seduce kas. To restore her soul. To breed her and give her the child she wants. Through the mc's powerful soul and help from the various gods kas can join the harem of the champion. And with her demon powers she literally can take on whatever form suits the players kinks. Hell she even talks about corrupting cait and implies to ryan that she could be free of the chastity belt easily as a demon. That she could literally change form to suit the mc's tastes.
I think there are a ton of options and ways the story could be told depending on the choices the mc makes. Imagine being able to romance her and being able to customize her appearence. the various sex scenes and dialogue. Heck every night of the week she can take on diferent forms for bedroom fun.
there's a redemption quest and thus an arc. So she's not exactly a "take over the world" antagonist. She tells you depending on your choices that she wasnts the mc to breed her and through the use of their radiant soul. To have not imps but an actual child with a soul. She works with us at times and even returns souls of cat girls she corrupted when we talk to the cat god.
It seems the real unredeemable antagonist is the being which corrupted kas. Why not have the option to seduce kas. To restore her soul. To breed her and give her the child she wants. Through the mc's powerful soul and help from the various gods kas can join the harem of the champion. And with her demon powers she literally can take on whatever form suits the players kinks. Hell she even talks about corrupting cait and implies to ryan that she could be free of the chastity belt easily as a demon. That she could literally change form to suit the mc's tastes.
I think there are a ton of options and ways the story could be told depending on the choices the mc makes. Imagine being able to romance her and being able to customize her appearence. the various sex scenes and dialogue. Heck every night of the week she can take on diferent forms for bedroom fun.
If they wanted to redeem Kas, I assume the actual antagonist would end up being Master Tallus. He'll have grown frustrated at her floundering (being redeemed) or her lack of focus or shared view of what he believes should be done to Savarra and have used the time and opportunities to have amassed enough power to either overtake her by surprise or become a threat in his own right while you were focused on her.
Sounds interesting, but since she made ryn sob, I can’t forgive her, the only way I’d dedicate a playthrough to kas, is if she returns the souls to everyone she has corrupted and somehow restore their physical appearances, and off course, return ryns sister, she probably won’t be welcome to the ice elf palace, but ryn would be happy that she would be back, I guess at the inn or the fort I suppose
She's not doing that out of altruism though, she's curious whether it's within his power to restore those souls to their original owners. Bear in mind that while we know that a demon can be restored to their original state thanks to CoC1, Kasyrra does not. She left Mareth before that discovery was made (it being the canon ending for narrative purposes, for what little impact it has on CoC2) so giving Mallach the lethicite is basically just research for her. The fact that he can do what Kas thinks he can tells her that her own research is on the right track.
That would be her mother, who's dead. Or ultimately Lethice, who's a non-entity in this story regardless of which ending you care to pick from.
Savin has said that he'd like to be able to do more with Kas' transformations but hold your horses on the idea of a fully customizble character why don't you? Ryn is already a hassle to write for because of all her parsers and she still has a lot of things that the writer can simply assume appearance-wise; she's an elf and so tall and has this skin tone and this hair and these eyes and so on. Trying to write a character where you can't assume practically anything and have to parser-ize every bit of her appearance would be... a nightmare.
Much more likely what would happen if we get Kassy Transformation Funtimes is that you'd have scenes written specifically for a given appearance.
Ryn: Oh hi sis, you sexually and emotionally abused me for decades and were a heartless bitch even before you were literally soulless but.... we cool now?
Yeah, I'm not seeing it. Even if we could stick Alissa's soul back in her body, she was an absolutely awful person and would be imprisoned or exiled at best. This is not a Disney story where the sisters are going to hug it out.
Lone Wolf115
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I believe Kas even said that she was close to a demon and she didn't even keep her soul. I'm thinking she gave it back or chucked it most likely gave it back not that there's much to it, it was small. The fact the she is a demon means that imprisonment and exile aren't options death would be the only option.
You missed my point, I not saying that ryn would forgive her sister, but I think ryn wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to her, ryn isn’t like that, I do believe she still loves her sister and wants her back, like I said, if the champ brings her back, the champ would keep an eye on her by having her in the fort, I think ryn would be happy if she came back, and her sister wouldn’t be able to push her around any more, I could see the champ would bring her back, for ryn
Your ignoring the fact she shot her at the end of winter city aren't you?
Lone Wolf115
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And never expressed anything close to wanting her back In any way. I don't even want her alive Alissa will die. Personal reasons and in game reasons.
Also I think there if ignoring the literal decades of abuse leading up to her wanting to try and marry and bear Ryns kids, she's not redeemable.
I still think that ryn wouldn’t want any harm on her sister, it’s just not in her nature to so hateful towards her, even if she would want nothing to do with her
Yes, regardless of her Confidence stat, Ryn's first reaction following Alissa's transformation is to shoot her. Twice. And at high Confidence she'll tell the Champ that she couldn't bring herself to kill her but worries that not doing so might be a mistake she'll regret in the future.
I think that Ryn would probably be happier about it if Alissa could be re-souled somehow and punished for her crimes short of execution but I don't think she'd lose any sleep over it if you ended up having to shorten her sister by a head.
I think that Ryn would probably be happier about it if Alissa could be re-souled somehow and punished for her crimes short of execution but I don't think she'd lose any sleep over it if you ended up having to shorten her sister by a head.
I have a sneaking suspicion on where her soul is. Considering how small and worthless it was.
Well shit, I don’t remember that, haven’t been playing coc2 cuz I’m deciding on what to do when fucking ryn with a large dick, since you have to be mean to her, plus I was waiting on the public js tits update to come out, but I’ve been having issues with that
We know where it is: Between Tollus' notes obtained in the Abyssal Depths and Kasyrra's Dream Palace conversation, we've been told twice over that Kas gave the thing back to Alissa. Thanks to the resolution of the first part of Siege of Khor'minos we know where Alissa's hiding out, the island of Dracia to the east. We're just waiting on the next step of that content to be written and implemented so we can go there and kick her ass up between her pointy ears until she gives us the damned thing. Or possibly we'll have to pry it out of her ass, if Kas' joking suggestion about precisely where the crystal is winds up being not a joke.
Lone Wolf115
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Lone Wolf115
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I believe it shows up in codex like the same thing from the Centaur village, at the bottom on the codex.
Lone Wolf115
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Lone Wolf115
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Same but there will always be something new or you haven't read yet in the codex.