Interactions with exotic body types...

Flustershy

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I mean after playing Trials for a ''while'' now i did notice something that just kinda annoys me maybe more than any bug in the history of this game...

And that is if you own a exotic body like naga or anything quadruped (centaur leithan and so on)

What annoys me is that the actions happening to the player are often described so that the game completely ignores the limitation of your current body shape.

Such as. spreading legs or taking ''steps'' with naga body, lying on ones back as a centaur or leithian and so on.

Now I know that it would be so much work to find and change every single action in the game that implies the character having 2 legs if you become a centaur or naga, and i don't expect this to actually change but...

One can allways dream am i right ?

Also the fact that there are special scenes and possible seduction bonuses for nagas and taurs, shows that there has been effort put for those who desire such body types but besides those few scenes the game actually does not care if you have 2/4/6 legs or a naga body.


P.S if the player has taur like body and becomes pregnant with anything, the game tells that the growing belly is at the wait line where the upper torso and taur ones are connected, while the game itself says that pregnant taurs have their bellies hang downwards between their front and back legs.

And yes i do know i might complain about the most irrelevant things, but on a game which basically is 90% reading its not good if your immersion gets killed by you thinking of how does one with a snake tail for a lower body spread their legs for example.
 

SoAndSo

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Nice blog of hopes and dreams, bro.

I mean, I'm not gonna put you down for it but the answer is one you've already given in your own post: It's just a mountain of extra effort for something that (I imagine) the majority of players don't have much stake in.
 

Emerald

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Accommodating for multiple body types is a huge pain in the ass as it is.

Nobody is gonna want to write variants for them every step of the way, and nobody certain is gonna go back and WRITE said variants for old scenes.

Do it yourself.
 

Flustershy

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Nice blog of hopes and dreams, bro.

I mean, I'm not gonna put you down for it but the answer is one you've already given in your own post: It's just a mountain of extra effort for something that (I imagine) the majority of players don't have much stake in.
Like said its a pipe dream which wont probs ever happen, and like i said this a VERY specific problem which would have very little reward if it was made.

But still wanted to write something to pass the time if nothing else...
 

Ormael

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Some scenes can be easy adjusted for naga but for more tauric ones bodies...usualy need writing at least part of even whole new variant to the scene. And each writer will weigh more new content than this variant writing :(
 

Noob Salad

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Actually, descriptions like "spreading legs" and "taking steps" shouldn't happen at all for certain body types. For the most part, writers are good at making enough variations to accommodate, but plenty slip through the cracks and it's impossible to remember and keep track of them.

Like for example, if I wrote an exhibition scene right now, I'd probably envision it with a biped and write it as such. It's not really limited to bipeds, per se, but if you procced it as a Taur, it wouldn't really make any sense. I mean, I guess that would be my fault as a writer, so I'd probably just say //no taurs btw, lol.
 

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Taurs... basically shouldn't exist. For this exact reason. Nothing makes sense for them. Naga and drider-like inventions receive a partial pardon because their bodies are still roughly arranged in the same way and thus scenes can still muddle along reasonably for them, but they're still annoying to accomodate.

I've long lobbied for a [pc.walk] descriptor, which would handle the {step} {slither} {scuttle} {trot} side of things. According to Geddy this actually exists in some form, it's just nobody seems to use or know about it.
 

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I had this exact thought while writing bollocks today:

Considering how huge and theoretically useless the main body mass of taur bodies are, what exactly do they do except accommodate extra legs?

And also:

Wouldn't they also, when taking a number 2, produce so much shit that it's on the scale of kilograms?

I haven't answered these questions, myself.
 

Nonesuch

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Considering how huge and theoretically useless the main body mass of taur bodies are, what exactly do they do except accommodate extra legs?

Do you mean in mechanical terms or what they do for people in sex scenes? If the former: I would readily assume a fuck off digestive system, another heart and a pair of lungs. There's no way half a human stapled onto the front is moving it otherwise. In sexual terms: Bestiality. Denial.

Wouldn't they also, when taking a number 2, produce so much shit that it's on the scale of kilograms?

Pretty much what I pointed out to Jim when he was writing Aina complaining about her parents not liking her turning into a horse. There's nothing unreasonable about not wanting to clean up tons of your daughter's shit.
 

Noob Salad

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You nerdz r dum. By the 31st century no one poops anymore. It just gets teleported out. Why do you think everyone is down for anal all the time?

Also stop reminding me that my broke college waifu needs more content.
 

OnyxDrakkenblade

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Taurs... basically shouldn't exist. For this exact reason. Nothing makes sense for them. Naga and drider-like inventions receive a partial pardon because their bodies are still roughly arranged in the same way and thus scenes can still muddle along reasonably for them, but they're still annoying to accomodate.

I've long lobbied for a [pc.walk] descriptor, which would handle the {step} {slither} {scuttle} {trot} side of things. According to Geddy this actually exists in some form, it's just nobody seems to use or know about it.
This, [pc.walk] is exactly the kind of thing that makes these things work. It not getting used probably has a lot to do with people not being familiar with the parser and how to use it properly/well. I know I struggled heavily with it at first.

As far as taurs existing, we can say this about a great many things. In the end the whole thing comes down to the fact that the consensual reality is defined by kinksmut. Where science meets kink, kink wins. Same thing with hyper, or the milk fetish thing. AT some point metabolism and calorie/nutrient intake/output would fuck that all to hell. Every kink breaks down somewhere. It's just that with taur it's a LOT easier to find it a LOT faster.
 

Ormael

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Taur anathomy...yeah we are in for a crazy ride to try discuss all implications of humanoid upper body on neck of any taur compatibile animal. Same as few other kinks that would tirrger long and fruitless disscusion (most of the times ofc).
:negativeman:
 

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As someone who mainly play with a tauric Steele I just exercise my imagination whenever the description doesn't fit, as I understand trying to account for all the various body types is a pain in the ass. But this just make whatever scene that actually do accommidate special body types the more precious and enjoyable. Which reminds me, we seriously need a dick add-on for our seigwulf, I want that robo puppy pound my Ausar tauric Steele into the ground.
 
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OnyxDrakkenblade

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I like to think that we of the oddball body kink group are appreciative of the work the storytellers do to accomodate our kink. I doubt any of us are vocal enough about it, so. THANK YOU ALL for writing kink for us!
 
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cool.alexia

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This, [pc.walk] is exactly the kind of thing that makes these things work. It not getting used probably has a lot to do with people not being familiar with the parser and how to use it properly/well. I know I struggled heavily with it at first

It makes it kinda work. My smutty writing often mentions at least one leg interaction, (kissing, touching, grinding...). It being the things next to your cooter or noodle and all. As soon as something like this happens the writer assumes something about the pc which cannot be handled by the parser, right?

I thought about writing content for tits, it ended because of the crazy toolchain you guys are using, but anyways... I came up with PC personas that included as many weird things as possible. The reasoning was that if the content works for a tripple cunted quadruple dicked bird pc, it will work for your plain old female human.

To be as inclusive as possible I would need to write for at least 3 'proto pcs' :
Heavily modded human, like succubus
Naga
Taur

Because a naga closes some smutty possibilities while opening new. and taurs are just weird bodies where nothing is where it is supposed to. And if i want to use for example quadruple dicks to the full potential I would need to add another 'proto pc' to write for, right?
 

OnyxDrakkenblade

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It makes it kinda work. My smutty writing often mentions at least one leg interaction, (kissing, touching, grinding...). It being the things next to your cooter or noodle and all. As soon as something like this happens the writer assumes something about the pc which cannot be handled by the parser, right?

I thought about writing content for tits, it ended because of the crazy toolchain you guys are using, but anyways... I came up with PC personas that included as many weird things as possible. The reasoning was that if the content works for a tripple cunted quadruple dicked bird pc, it will work for your plain old female human.

To be as inclusive as possible I would need to write for at least 3 'proto pcs' :
Heavily modded human, like succubus
Naga
Taur

Because a naga closes some smutty possibilities while opening new. and taurs are just weird bodies where nothing is where it is supposed to. And if i want to use for example quadruple dicks to the full potential I would need to add another 'proto pc' to write for, right?
No not really. Let me start with the easy one. If you use the parser tag [pc.cocks] it will intelligently determine how many cocks the pc has and return an adjectivised noun(s) that fit the PCs penes, penis, or lack thereof. However, if you use the parser tag [pc.groin] you'll actually get a return of cock., cocks, pussy, pussies, both, or a lack thereof in the same fashion. So number of cocks is pretty irrelevant in this one.
With the parser call [pc.legs] you can get a pretty easy return for any kind of legs. It even manages naga RELATIVELY well. Until you do things like, ". . . Dane spreads your milky white [pc.legs] so he can lick your [pc.cunt]. . . ". Pretty sure that's the parser call. This works JUST fine for ANY biped. It fails drastically for naga for the obvious reason that there's nothing to spread. But where it's REALLY wrong is that it seems like it might work for taurs but it fails utterly there. The first presumption that can be easily overlooked on the taur angle is that it presumes the taur is laying down . . . on it's back. Just picture that for a minute. MAYBE the feline taurs could do it, but what about deer-taur? or horse? Then comes in the question of why would you even spread their legs when any taur body would have a pussy in such a place that if you can lift the tail (presuming there is one) you can easily perform cunnilingus without spreading ANYTHING.

Essentially what this all leads to is that you have to write at least three different versions of EVERY paragraph involving doing something to the PCs body, and that's without accounting for the interesting possibilities of cocktails/pussytails or wings, or goo tentacles, and on and on. No writer can maintain their sanity and cover ALL of this. The parser is the savior of any TiTS author. It allows the author to put in the tags and have MOST of these things be covered. If the parser didn't exist we'd have to have a different path in the dialogue writing for ANY differentiable factor. At the same time it allows there to be a small slew of appropriate adjectives to whatever part is referred to that actually fit the players PC appropriately. I.E., you could write, " . . . His oral ministrations have your [pc.eachcunt] glistening with more than just saliva! . . . ] and the player would get a description of each of their cooters described with adjectives of their own and appropriately colored and furred or scaled or whatever.
 

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I will say, depending on how clever the writer is, scenes can be written ambiguously yet definitive enough where full paragraphs or even pages can be reduced to a few lines of variation. Not all scenes can do that depending on the desired choreography, admittedly.
 
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OnyxDrakkenblade

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I will say, depending on how clever the writer is, scenes can be written ambiguously yet definitive enough where full paragraphs or even pages can be reduced to a few lines of variation. Not all scenes can do that depending on the desired choreography, admittedly.
Absolutely, it CAN be done with the grace and awesomeness of good storytelling too. But just like painters there's a handful of masters and a handful of fools that think they are painters but shouldn't be and a PLETHORA of people that fall somewhere between the above.