Title. I'm rather curious who (if at all) players will save their Champs V-Card to give to someone. And whether or not they're willing to wait the majority of the current MSQ-line to do so (such as for Lumia)
In your opinion, who has the best virginity loss scene?
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Are we talking just losing a v-card, or one in a scene that specifically accounts for the fact that it's the Champ's first time with the appropriate bit? If it's the latter, my various Champs mostly do Brint, Evelyn or a combination thereof. Anni has great content for it but none of my Champs has done hers for their ongoing save for various RP reasons.
Assuming in general rather than bespoke virgin scenes, my main Champ (being a romantic dork) saved all of hers for Ryn's uncaging. The writing doesn't specifically account for the Champ there but since the first scenes each using her dick are written as special for Ryn, that was plenty enough. Likewise her Festivus scene where you give Ryn the whole candy cane, which accounts for it being her first time doing that.
Assuming in general rather than bespoke virgin scenes, my main Champ (being a romantic dork) saved all of hers for Ryn's uncaging. The writing doesn't specifically account for the Champ there but since the first scenes each using her dick are written as special for Ryn, that was plenty enough. Likewise her Festivus scene where you give Ryn the whole candy cane, which accounts for it being her first time doing that.
I did mean a scene that specifically calls for it. But I suppose that, given how special the uncaging scene is, it also suffices
Drifa. Sweet if you're not a virgin, sweeter if you are.
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well if you're counting that I'm going Cait and Sally's anal virginity scene as my favorite. one of the best sex scene's in the game IMO.
Honestly it's that one scene that makes me really iffy about Evelyn. The fact that it can be a huge breach of boundaries and the fact she shows no guilt if she has made you uncomfortable makes me lose some respect for her.
Am I remembering the scene incorrectly? Because I do not remember her breaching your boundaries when taking your virginity. You make it sound like a hard R.
By the point you can get to Evelyn's v-card scenes you've gone through something like half a dozen separate opt-ins that make it clear what sort of content she represents and even if she hasn't fucked you, you have at minimum sucked her off a couple times, have seen that picking her sex options does not come with a 'I changed my mind' button and then you have to willingly click the 'Fuck' option that says in the tooltip that you want to get bounced on her dick
Evelyn's the character that teaches you to make a save before interacting with any character, because they may not have an opt out button.
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Agreed. Wsan is among my very favorite writers, but I really think he could have better structured Evelyns introduction. Couldn't hurt to have an opt out in the part where the only options were to sit on her lap or kneel. "Oh THIS is what you want? My bad, lady, the ridiculously beautiful ass in your bust image led me here with other ideas"
By the time you're picking how you want to first experience her dick, you have already confirmed three times to proceed with her content in lieu of backing out. First, opening the door when the text makes it clear there's sex happening behind it. Second, continuing to watch when you see that she's getting her dick sucked and the text even emphasizes the subservience of the woman doing the sucking. Third, when she makes it clear that she's still extremely horny and the text focuses on her penis. If you've clicked all three affirmative options and haven't figured out that you're about to get intimate with a penis as a consequence, you have clearly not been paying attention to the text.
Not only that, but you've likely have cycled through one of her sex choices by this point after that initial scene. Idk about when you take her anally/vaginally then, but I do know that if you wait for her to be available and get the options to do any of the Champ's v-card scenes with her, I am PRETTY sure you straight up willingly consent within the scene to giving her your ass/dick/vagina as your first experience.
Like it's been a while, but I remember pretty vividly her asking if you are a virgin, which if you are in something (or in all of your parts outside your mouth, you will say as such, she clearly knows it's your first time in that area and if you're there by that point and clicking those options and reading the tooltips obviously you're fucking giving it to her. Obviously if you aren't a virgin everything is standard. if you're gonna fuck a character, you already are at a point of no return and should know what you're clicking before you click it. Not every character is gonna have an opt-out button.
Like. That doesn't sound like any sort of extreme in breaking boundaries OR making you uncomfortable to me (where is the PC uncomfortable with their virginity being taken? Their shyness? Oh boo hoo virgin anxiety can make you shy what a crime :U). That just seems very standard fare?
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Oh, I specifically meant her scene where she takes our P virginity, I forgot she had other ones I should have specified. I'm also sure that one is the one which Chesheire meant since they specified three versions (small/average/big). Talking about the small version, cause up until that point Evelyn and Champ established a master/servant relationship but humiliation was not really discussed. I don't even think the scenes are not sexy, I just think there should have been one more opt in to confirmed to Evelyn you consent, cause at the moment she initiates it herself at a moment that may have been important for the Champ asking their Mistress to take one of their virginities. Again I think the scene is hot I just think Evelyn comes of as a dick if you walk away and she doesn't react at all.
I did pay attenttion to the text, at no point before locking you into sex does it say "this character tops exclusively and you will turn into such a complete submissive bitch the moment you walk through this door that you will have no choice but to take her dick". Don't give me this bullshit about how I wasn't paying attention when I can't posssibly know what my options are going to be until I actually see them, like I'm just supposed to assume purely from the fact that she has a dick that my only options will be to suck it or ride it, fuck off with that noise. There are tons of dickgirls in the game willing too pitch and catch and Wsan did not make it clear enough from the outset that she is not willing to catch. unless apparently you're a penile virgin.
Woah there, friend, I don't think that's fair of you to say.
Let's say we were in a universe where every single thing you said is fully true. Still, why not have just the one extra opt out button when the player can precisely see the content options?
Now, to awnser your points, I agree with you that you opt in for content of sexual nature when you open the door. I agree with you that the game introduces Evelyn dominating the other lady.
But that's it, when you choose to go in after she invites you in, you could be thinking ok now she wants her own turn sucking something, or fair enough she's exclusively dominant, now she wants to ride a stud to the sheets. Maybe she's not only dominant, and she also likes being dominated.
After all, friend, there are many normally dommy ladies in the game who are more than happy to be dommed themselves by the champion.
Mate, the very antagonist Kass, is introduced in a scene that, like you said for Eve, highlights her arousal by her hard cock, and her initial idea is to have the champion suck it. If you can despite all that turn the tables on the mighty demon queen and be the one who fucks her, can you really fault the player for thinking he could do similar with a dainty princess in a tavern room?
I just checked the scene in question, and I have to agree with this. In the leading up scenes, It's clear that Wsan is building up to more and more sexual intimacy with every session with Evelyn, and that she takes you willingly entering the room as continued enthusiastic consent.
Building up with every session? Did you quote the right post, friend? If so I think you misunderstood something. In that part we were are talking about only the first session, the introduction.
Oh, well I've never done her SPH scenes (bc that sort of stuff is such a turnoff for me it practically makes me look like I've sworn abstinence. Plus I always go big dick on my PCs) But so far folks haven't complained about it until now looooong after it has been a scene in the game. It definitely would've helped to specify that it was that scene in particular, as you bringing up Evelyn without any sort of specification made it easy to assume you thought that for some reason ALL of her virginity scenes were consent-breaking and the like. Tho I still question how that is the case without anything from the scene shown since not everyone does that content. Plus it would've avoided this entire mess.... >.>'
You might just be the first outlier of it so far, since I assume if folks haven't said anything until now it met their expectations; they wanted humiliation and got it.
Well, my problem mostly is if you back out of the scene Evelyn just kinda gives you the cold shoulder. I expected even a little reaction but no, she just stays silent as you leave after she pushed something unprompted that may have made you uncomfortable. It may have been fine if it was already established that you enjoyed it but this is the introduction and she didn't really give any indication that this was the direction she'd go. When she started talking about how "some people are born superior than others" I kinda just zoned off. The thing is I probably wouldn't even mind if it was Nareva or Keros who dropped that line on me but I just don't respect Evelyn's authority enough to care. It shows that while you may think the mistress/servant relationship between Champ and Evelyn as just "sexy roleplay", Evelyn does in fact just see you as (however you may try to sugarcoat it) lesser than her; which although others might enjoy is not really for me.
Anyways, to get back on topic, I'll have to say Evelyn myself. Mainly bc there's not a lot of Early Character virginity scenes that really play into the fact it's your first time really doing penetrative/penetrating stuff in particular. Not even Cait has any for the Champ and she is very likely the very first character you bed with in the game for the most part (a fact which I'm still sad about ngl, but oh well). Eve's the most notable example for me in that she covers all the bases, and waiting to actually sex her to get these scenes is manageable to do. Plus I just like the feel in those scenes. Like how if you have a dick you have your first dry orgasm from her - another thing I Never see in written porn period, I think outside of humiliation stuff, which idk, it's a nice detail.
I also like that if you're a penis virgin and take her ass you have a very small back and forth in the end for a moment about how it was your first times, only to take in that she meant what she said. That's just really sweet to me in particular.
I have no idea how people can go the entire game up to Lumia to give their V-Card bc that takes a level of stubborness not to fuck anyway outside of oral lol.
I also like that if you're a penis virgin and take her ass you have a very small back and forth in the end for a moment about how it was your first times, only to take in that she meant what she said. That's just really sweet to me in particular.
I have no idea how people can go the entire game up to Lumia to give their V-Card bc that takes a level of stubborness not to fuck anyway outside of oral lol.
Zo has some nice stuff for dick havers. Was hoping for more sharing virginity scenes, but almost all cases either the game has the Champ as super experienced OR the other partner. I understand why it's not a high priority for writers but it would be nice to have.
Most of the calls for "pc.isVirgin" seem to be for losing fights. Evelyn and Zo have a bunch. I've been looking for Drifa to see hers but I cannot find her in my current run haha.
Most of the calls for "pc.isVirgin" seem to be for losing fights. Evelyn and Zo have a bunch. I've been looking for Drifa to see hers but I cannot find her in my current run haha.