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Discussion in 'Trials in Tainted Space' started by Alecsandr, May 17, 2018.

  1. Alecsandr

    Alecsandr Well-Known Member

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    How do y'all feel about people picking up and writing for characters who've long since have been 'abandoned'? More specifically characters such as Briha, Lys, Queensquard, and the many others that seem to have been forgotten in the rush towards the horizon.
     
  2. Wsan

    Wsan Well-Known Member
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    I wholeheartedly anti-recommend this. Picking up from where a writer left off fucking sucks ass. Let me find you an old post I made about this in relation to Embry.

    You will burn out and fade away and people will literally not even remember your forum username. A touch melodramatic, but you get the point.
     
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  3. zero point sixty

    zero point sixty Well-Known Member

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    I totally believe this is the case for a character like Embry, and even Briha and Lys since they're pretty well fleshed out, but do you think this applies to more minor characters as well?

    As someone with an idea to write at some point (I'm currently messing around with canon-compliant fanfiction to get my toes wet) quite a few of the ideas I've been mulling over involve minor characters I'd like to see more of. The Queensguard was actually one of those since she/he isn't really developed outside of the fight scene (so not too much baggage), and the dynamic of her/him being, like, MtF or at least breaking gender conventions in a society that is gender-flipped (by our standards) is interesting to me.

    Funnily enough, another minor character I had actually planned some stuff out for was Milly, but then a certain someone beat me to the punch (great scene, btw!).
     
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  4. Kesil

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    The Queensguard isn't MtF. That's how male nyrea look like. Same applies to Seifyn. But yeah, I'd like to see minor characters being extended (the Queensguard being one of said minor characters!). If I can recall correctly, Sera began that way.
     
  5. Noob Salad

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    One time Wsan left and that made me sad.
     
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  6. Wsan

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    Eh. If you're writing like one or two scenes it's no big deal, as you'd expect. The problem is when you try to 'pick up' a character and go about writing everything they were apparently going to do.
     
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  7. zero point sixty

    zero point sixty Well-Known Member

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    What I meant was that the Queensguard, a biologically male Nyrea, acts like and fulfils a social role that would typically be reserved for female Nyrea. They are even referred to as she in the text at various points, I think. Or is that the usual form for Nyrea? I can't recall the pronoun the text uses for Seifyn. It's not stated that she actually wants to be or identifies as female though, that's why I added the other half of that sentence, about her possibly just breaking gender conventions.

    e: It's all a bit confusing, since in this context all male and female mean, I guess, is who's got eggs and who's got sperm.
     
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  8. Kesil

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    Ah, yeah, you're right. Amusingly, I think that can be applied to Seifyn as well (I went through the Nyrean territories during the third day I played TiTS, so my memories are fuzzy at best). Pronoun wise, both are referred as she, but I don't remember if that was something usual between nyreans or just Steele's nanomachines and codex fooling around.
     
  9. Alecsandr

    Alecsandr Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Wsan i've seen the burnout before on people picking up characters that have been left behind (mostly involving Embry, who turned out lovely by the way), but what i was meaning more or less with the topic was 'is this subject taboo?' i've seen people claim that writing for a character that already has/had an author would be infringing upon their work which is something i wouldn't want to do.

    And yes i know writing within a set personality can be hard if you didn't create said personality, i'm a dm i've learned to adapt when players want a waifu/husbando, but thankfully the three i listed off have relatively simple easy to understand drives and personalities that i feel i could write for. also mostly what i'd be wanting to write wouldn't be sex scenes (queensguard being the exception to this as we've had no sexable nyrea males which i find odd)

    i'm honestly not expecting anything i write to ever get in the game but i enjoy the characters enough that taking a crack at it would be worth it to me
     
  10. Nonesuch

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    I stole Sera and adopted Carrie. Ara Kei was abandonware before I decided to do something with them. It's not an impossible thing to do.

    Most porno characters are not complex individuals with rich inner lives that are impossible to tease out what the original author intended to do with them. I think it's worthwhile reading back their scenes and if possible their docs, and then quickly summarising their traits, and what fetishes/emotional beats they were supposed to be a vehicle for. If you can do that you should feasibly be able to continue writing them, even if you'll never capture the original author's spirit.

    Also very obviously you should ask the permission of the original author, if possible. Queensguard belongs to Savin, and he'll probably want to see anything you intend to do with him.
     
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  11. Alecsandr

    Alecsandr Well-Known Member

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    Yeah @Nonesuch i figured permissions were needed before proceeding with any attempt at writing for those characters. I figured i'd do them one at a time starting with the ones that i had the most motivation to write for, in this case Briha and Lys. Queensguard is totally a character i want to see written more for but i'd rather see Savin do that seeing as he's leagues better than me at writing, also these three were also the first 'abandoned' characters that i could think of off the top of my head.
     
  12. paroxysm

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    I wondered if this was something I ought to add to bug report, but I also wasn't sure if that was meant to be a nyrean cultural quirk. For what it's worth, the Codex specifically uses "he" to refer to males.
     
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