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Fireball

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Goo armor should really get a buff, she's outclassed by the time you get her and in zeng shi if you get the spacesuit around everyone's favorite goo gal she gets the ability to make airtight armor but its completely unusable for the spacewalk. Would be cool to take er out on the spacewalk.
 

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I do agree that Nova (as she is known) could do with more upgrades. While she is not a bad item when upgraded, she does lack in some respects. Still, its worth it to have the playful cutie around.
 
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Crablord

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just get the omnisuit
i feel like its more powerful than a majority of the armor
 

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The idea behind Nova is she gets upgraded to equalish status on each planet, being subpar until then. She's both a character and a persistent armor that isn't just thrown away. Considering she got upgraded on Myrellion in the probe dungeon it's reasonable to guess we'll have to wait until Zheng Shi is near to or fully complete before she gets upgraded.
 

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The idea behind Nova is she gets upgraded to equalish status on each planet, being subpar until then. She's both a character and a persistent armor that isn't just thrown away. Considering she got upgraded on Myrellion in the probe dungeon it's reasonable to guess we'll have to wait until Zheng Shi is near to or fully complete before she gets upgraded.
Except she is nowhere near equalish the base shop gear in uveto far outclasses her hell even auroras gear imo outclasses her, at least until you get mirrored.
Then she's kinda good for a small part of karaquest but the void armor you get early in dungeon already has 6 more defense and a boatload more resistances so...... A couple base mobs of upgrade use? She's realluy underpowered based upon the options available at zeng shi.
Also considering uveto has no upgrades for her at all alongside zengshi means she's got the short end of the combat pool.
I hate to say it like this but she's so.... Bad as to be unusable.
When jumpers and sneks have gear that gives 3x the stats you really cant give her more use then a pocket warmer.
Shame too, she seems like she'd be such a fun companion
 

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Then write upgrade events for her.
I would if i weren't a terrible writer, i tried. Im more really just a gamer. Im man enough to admit it, and thus the reason for this post.
But i can back the game and occasionally toss feedback so i can slightly delude myself im helping so theres that.
 

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I do agree that Nova (as she is known) could do with more upgrades. While she is not a bad item when upgraded, she does lack in some respects. Still, its worth it to have the playful cutie around.
She is arguably on my list of favorite companions and a welcome site out in the wastes.
Plus as an added bonus siegewulf and her are surefire ways to deal with the constant blue balls my character has.
Only problem with my tfs solved in an easy bubbly package
 

Fireball

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just get the omnisuit
i feel like its more powerful than a majority of the armor
Its less about the meta its more about the fact im hoping the bubbly gooey buddy gets a buff at least slightly. I don't care if she's not op i just want her halfway usable in basic combat.
I was hoping she'd get enough of an upgrade via questing to have her be more then 6 defense, 4 sexiness, and mirrored.
Max stats unless you sacrifice defense for airtight when you really don't have any pheremone mobs when you get airtight. airtight would be useful for maike but you need the space suit and you beat maike for the suit so........ Yeah.
She's just overwhelmingly disappointing in any respect when it comes to actual usefulness in combat and then she's almost essentially a pocket celise at that point.
 

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Yup. Gotta get ol' Nova updated and maxed out because when I fight Lash Amara Taivra Roz Forgehound Hand So Shizuya Urbolg Petra quadommes literally fucking-no-one-of-any-note my Steele can be at max Defense value.
 

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Yup. Gotta get ol' Nova updated and maxed out because when I fight Lash Amara Taivra Roz Forgehound Hand So Shizuya Urbolg Petra quadommes literally fucking-no-one-of-any-note my Steele can be at max Defense value.
We havent even finished zeng shi and i didn't ask for max defense value i asked for some long needed balance to her. She's such an interesting character concept thats wasted by the fact the current mechanics actively punish you for using her.
Give her a splash more defense and she'd be able to be a halfway decent armor or maybe give her a couple evasion because idk she helps you dodge a bit?
 

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You're like, trapped in the box maaaan. Like, don't wear armor, free your mind, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnn...
 

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Also considering uveto has no upgrades for her at all alongside zengshi means she's got the short end of the combat pool.
The next public patch is supposed to have a quest on Uveto that will let you upgrade Nova (electricity resistance, if I remember correctly) and Zheng Shi is nowhere close to being finished, so of course it doesn't have content for Nova yet.
 

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The next public patch is supposed to have a quest on Uveto that will let you upgrade Nova (electricity resistance, if I remember correctly) and Zheng Shi is nowhere close to being finished, so of course it doesn't have content for Nova yet.
Actually if you talk to her while wearing the spacesuit she gains the ability to make an airtight helmet while being worn at the cost of two defense.
She also trolls you by pretending to die the rood lovable goo.
Electric resistance?
Doesn't mirrored already essentially negate that anyway?
Don't get me wrong im all for more nova content but this is kinda my point with her.
She really hasn't gotten a truly significant boost in any one way.
She does little to no tease damage when you sacrifice defense to have her attack to the point you are literally better off using her sexiness as a stat stick, she has not enough significant defense to use in combat as an armor, she has no evasion to speak of and her special flags are both fairly lackluster.
Mirrored is arguably the only useful of the two until more pheromone based creatures are added and there is a vast amount more of kinetic damage then laser making her situational at best. The electric damage resistance would require folk wielding shock blades and shock batons to help much and those options are fairly useless since 90% of shields dock you 50% electric and thus making her buff useless.
 
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Nova needs to be handled carefully. But instead of constantly buffing her to be a versatile, but not amazing, armor, I think we should change her based on your class. Obviously she'll still need upgrades to keep up, but a Techie's Nova should have bonus Shielding, a Smuggler's should have extra Evasion, and a Merc's would have more Defense. We still can't have her objectively be the best armor, so this would require balancing, but I think the results would be better.
 
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Armor is useless until we start getting foes like how Dr Lash was when the level cap was 8.
 

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Armor is useless until we start getting foes like how Dr Lash was when the level cap was 8.
Maybe for a Tech, but the Smugglers and Mercs need Evasion and Defense. I'm pretty sure the Prototype Pirate Shield isn't enough to keep them happy. Especially against Quadommes.
 

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Electric resistance?
Doesn't mirrored already essentially negate that anyway?
The electric damage resistance would require folk wielding shock blades and shock batons to help much and those options are fairly useless since 90% of shields dock you 50% electric and thus making her buff useless.
Went and double-checked the doc for the quest, it gives Nova "+25% Electrical resistance (raising her to +0% total if no other Electrical upgrades have been gained) and now provides shields"

Nothing earth-shattering, but it eliminates one of the armour's weaknesses and more Shields are always nice.
 

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Maybe for a Tech, but the Smugglers and Mercs need Evasion and Defense. I'm pretty sure the Prototype Pirate Shield isn't enough to keep them happy. Especially against Quadommes.
Literaly rolled a melee merc and am running around zheng shi naked with the hard light katana. Damage output is more important than damage reduction.
 

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Literaly rolled a melee merc and am running around zheng shi naked with the hard light katana. Damage output is more important than damage reduction.
That's true for basically any game, and real life. Though to be fair, only the Quadommes pose even a little threat to me, and my armor and weapons both are for style over function.
 

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That's true for basically any game, and real life. Though to be fair, only the Quadommes pose even a little threat to me, and my armor and weapons both are for style over function.
I honestly prefer things this way so my primary Steele can run around space in a maid outfit, shooting everyone with a railgun just like in my animes
 
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I would like to say that an armor/weapon upgrade system would fix all our problems
 

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Nova needs to be handled carefully. But instead of constantly buffing her to be a versatile, but not amazing, armor, I think we should change her based on your class. Obviously she'll still need upgrades to keep up, but a Techie's Nova should have bonus Shielding, a Smuggler's should have extra Evasion, and a Merc's would have more Defense. We still can't have her objectively be the best armor, so this would require balancing, but I think the results would be better.
I like this idea a ton. Like i said idc about her being the best as long as she's not nigh on useless. Its also why i like petras whip, it changes to better fit steele and this feels way more valuable regardless of playthrough class
 

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Actually if you talk to her while wearing the spacesuit she gains the ability to make an airtight helmet while being worn at the cost of two defense.
She also trolls you by pretending to die the rood lovable goo.
Electric resistance?
Doesn't mirrored already essentially negate that anyway?
Don't get me wrong im all for more nova content but this is kinda my point with her.
She really hasn't gotten a truly significant boost in any one way.
She does little to no tease damage when you sacrifice defense to have her attack to the point you are literally better off using her sexiness as a stat stick, she has not enough significant defense to use in combat as an armor, she has no evasion to speak of and her special flags are both fairly lackluster.
Mirrored is arguably the only useful of the two until more pheromone based creatures are added and there is a vast amount more of kinetic damage then laser making her situational at best. The electric damage resistance would require folk wielding shock blades and shock batons to help much and those options are fairly useless since 90% of shields dock you 50% electric and thus making her buff useless.

You can get the helmet upgrade way before Zheng Shi, you just need to be wearing any kind of airtight armor, like the Xenogen Atma Armor, or Liriel's azure or uv spacesuits.

IIRC Mirrored only works against weapons with the Laser flag.

The tease damage might be a similar issue that it doesn't scale with anything, like with the Myr Venom before the latest patch (I think). Maybe just making it scale with level would be fine.

Making her airtight is fairly useful during the Nym-foe and Dollmaker fights as it essentially negates their lust-based attacks. It's also useful in the Kashima as all enemies have pheromone clouds active. Not that it's *necesary*, but if you're having trouble in either scenario they can make a difference (I know it did during my first time through).

Also FWIW Nova is the best armor to wear against doctor Lash :V
 
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She's a great companion, but there's always room for improvement. You're the future CEO of a mega corp. with access to all sorts of military, and cutting edge r&d. She's an amorphous puddle of nanobots with the consciousness of possibly multiple colonials in her head. I would think that the data preserving that consciousness would more or less prevent any meaningful upgrades. a better option would be to take her to lessau have him study her and allow him to either 'clean up' the data she is preserving [download those other voices out of there until there's only one] or to create his own 'grey goo' nanobot armor composed of more advanced micro surgeons programed with an adaptive vi. now to explain what i mean by clean up, nova is more than likely a gestalt just like grey prime {before she becomes captain morrow}, probably with less 'brains' contributing of course due to the fact she was made using a data drive and is smaller than morrow, which means that you have to have everything agreeing upon courses of action before they are taken which means learning is rudimentary at best, reactions are dulled {not that you'd notice but a few milliseconds of reaction time between a laser bolt and your armor hardening to deflect does leave room for error}, and self preservation is its highest priority. now you whittle her down to one consciousness and upload some additional programing to the puddle of bots and suddenly you'll have nova able to work sort of like STEM from upgrade, planning ahead for almost every conceivable possibility able to react even faster than most AIs, and she'd be able to actually learn exponentially due to all the newly opened processing space. But then again this is all my opinion and conjecture